1st Generation of Seacats:Those that were /a/ lurkers

2nd Generation of Seacats: Those that joined when IB4F Seacats was online.

3rd and Current generation of Seacats: The current Seacats.

>>53868
Cabbages are obviously better.

>>53861
Pfft, the old Peas would've never been beeten by such trivial wordplay. Well, I imagine you probably couldn't kale less in any case.

>>53863
Ah, I never DID play any of the diablos, so I suppose that would explain it. I did enjoy your story about the hailstorm though, that was pretty moe.

>>53865
Hello Rosa

>>53872
How have you been?

>>53872
Yeah, it's not like I kale if I'm inferior to the old peas or anything. Those peas are sour peas.

>>53872
Nihihi─ welcome, Lord Fancypants, nyeh.

>>53870
Seacats primaries: I can't wait to discuss Seacats with all my Seacats friends!
Seacats secondaries: I don't care much about this Seacats, but it's fun to play all these Seacats games with my Seacats friends.
Seacats tertiaries: lol this community seems cool can I post pls btw whats seacats

>>53872
Thanks~

This shit be kawaii nigga.

>>53876
I, for one, don't give a damn about Seacats, nyeh~

>>53879
The secondary category was pretty much invented for you. There might not even be anyone else.

>>53880
You think you have the qualifications to judge? How arrogant.

>>53881
Heh, I don't need to judge. You openly admit as such yourself, right?

When I look and see what /seacats/ really is , I'm pretty ashamed to be posting on it. But I just deal with it , it's one of my sources of entertainment.

>>53883
You're not the only one.

I'm sure you've realized that /seacats/ is one of the places that you'd normally pull your quotes and screenshots of horrible happenings from.

>>53884
It can't be helped.

Guess we're all losers. It's okay , (mostly) everyone feels the pain. We can all wallow in pity together.

>>53873
I've been well, more or less. Busier than ever though; one encumbrance lifts, another seems to take its place right away. It's all very taxing. I apologize for missing your birthday as well. I was ill around that time, so posting wasn't really an option for me. A very belated happy birthday, Rosa!

>>53874
Don't worry Peas, you'll always be welcome here, no matter how long you've been sitting in the back of the icebox causing you to become stricken with freezerburn and nigh inedible.

Though speaking of vegetables, this was a glorious week for them if I've ever seen it. Corn on the cob happens to be one of my favorite things, and I was able to eat it all week, seeing as I came across this place selling them in bundles of 8 for $2.00. Two dollars! That's less than 30 cents an ear! I hope you've been keeping up with your nutrition, don't want half your liver to melt.

>>53875
Hello siesta, I thought you said it was too lazy to sleep?~

You should really post with a name too. It's not considerate to work an old man's brain so hard trying to remember who everyone is. Besides, it's the hip thing to do you know, even Peas here is doing it now.

>>53876
So does talking about the site count, then? Gotta watch those loopholes.

>>53886
Corn is not a vegetable, Genji. Unlike pizza.

>>53882
I've not fallen so deep yet I want a Piece of trash judging me, nyeh~

>>53886
I'm no one, nihihihi─

>>53886
Thank you, and that's okay don't worry about it. I missed my birthday myself. I'm just glad you are okay, Anon and I were talking about you a few days ago, wondering if you were okay. And I'm glad to see that you are well.

______________________

Yeah what Piece said, corn is a grain, not a veggie.

>>53886
Look, a wild Genji appeared! I can't let him get away so easily... Have you read the Detective Butler Demo yet?~

>>53876
Couldn't be more true, I think. As I said two years ago, I care more about the fangames than the original Umineko, ahaha...

>>53888
Even the people below you must judge you. A servant must properly judge you as their master, right?

In any case, if you announce that "I like hats", you shouldn't take it as a bad thing for someone to repeat that you do, in fact, like hats. Regardless of who they are.

>>53892
My hate for you is such that I do not wish for you to repeat my words, nihihi─

>>53893
It feels strange to be the target of such strong one-sided hate.

Do as you will.

Do tell me the location of the popcorn.

>>53887
I,I-I never directly claimed it was a vegetable! I just arbitrarily felt like mentioning what a spectacular week it was for a decidedly under-appreciated food group, and afterwards coincidentally found myself compelled to concurrently expatiate on my completely unrelated fortuitous discovery. The ostensible connection between the two accounts you allude to is pure happenstance, I assure you.

>>53889
Thank you, and I greatly appreciate the concern. I hope you've been well too. And I really have to wonder, how do you miss your own birthday?

As for Anon, it's a shame he had to leave right before I arrived, but I guess it's just a case of bad timing. At least he won't be gone for as long as I was.

>>53890
To be perfectly honest, i'm not especially interested in the plot as of right now, so I think i'll be waiting for the full version. Demos as a whole kind of annoy me anyway though, the reason being that if they do pique my interest, it becomes that much harder to wait for the final release. Rest assured though, I will read the full version assuming i'm not buried in busywork at the time.

>>53897
Well, I don't blame you. I'd say that it wouldn't be much longer until the full version is out, but our team has randomly decided to work on other projects on a whim. At least I don't feel the pressure of getting anything else released any time soon. Comiket was a goal to shoot for, but I'll be honest in saying that it's not likely to happen.

Also, the last time we talked I was about to leave for AX. I'll have to fill you in on all the details, as it really was quite an adventure.

>>53894
hi onichan

>>53897
hi genjo

>>53897
Well, it involved me trying to give something to my friends for my birthday, and then me overworking myself trying to get it done stressing myself out psychically and mentally. So when I cancelled it early afternoon of my birthday I felt like a huge weight was lifted off of me, and I just suddenly fell asleep a minute or two later. Thus missing all the rest of my birthday, aka my special dinner I picked out, cake, presents, etc.

As for how I've been, that would a long story, and most of which I've already posted on seacats, so I'll just tell you sometime I see you on yahoo, they will probably be more to the story by then too.

>>53890
So you're a secondary too, huh? I wouldn't have expected that. Personally, I care a whole lot more about the actual Umineko.

Fangames are fun, but I like them most when they most tie into the real thing. That's why I mention all these little hooks in the story that could serve as a good basis for gameboards. I have a lot of tricks stored up that are lifted directly from the material of the main episodes, but are never put into practice.

I have the most fun hosting games, but I'm too lazy for it. And when I do it, I want to do it well. But I can't outdo the games others have made in the past, so I don't really try. It's a bit arrogant, I suppose. Plus, everyone is too experienced these days. In Umineko itself, Battler starts off as an easy challenged opponent, and even the slightest things trip him up. Plus, he creates his own restrictions on the game by refusing to doubt his family, and things like that. Meta actually did something similar in our original game. Apparently, he would never finger someone outside the original 17 as a culprit. He would rather forfeit before doing that. And so, if you used a person X as a culprit, he would exhaust every single possibility he could before arriving at that conclusion.

Well, regardless, I've been thinking about maybe hosting a game, but it might be a little too late.

Is it okay for kami-sama to be a tertiary.

>>53902
No. Therefore, give the kamiship to me.

>>53901
Wouldn't have expected that? I'm going by what Lion said as well. For example, me, Ozaki, Rosa, and Rudolf all became 'seacats' when the IB4F site was up. Thus, we are second generation. And coincidentally, we enjoy playing the gameboards (more than discussing the original, it seems).

Not to say that I dislike the original. But it's essentially a one-trick pony (no pun intended). Once you find Shkanontrice everything makes sense, and it's all resolved now. Sure, back when there was room to theorized I truly enjoyed doing it, but I can't do that anymore. The only way I can still make theories is through fangames (although I have more fun creating fangames for others to theorize about).

I have to admit, though, you really do pay attention to the stories. As you said, you do find all these little "hooks" that would make good fangames. I remember looking back through the threads of my first two games, and noticed you were incredibly observant with those as well, picking up on things even I had forgotten. I also enjoyed seeing those screencaps of Umineko recently, it really is painfully obvious when you look back at it.

Also, what do you mean, it's too late? I think we all would enjoy seeing another of your gameboards. There's not much activity going on in /gameboard/ right now, anyway, and this place always gets active whenever you or Meta shows up (especially both). Maybe that's just me wishing I'd been around for the /a/ games, though.

>>53902
I thought you belonged to the 1st generation.

>>53903

Kami-sama is the standard for correctness, so if kami-sama is not ok, not ok must be fine ne.

Can I be kami-sama?

Me, Gogo, Rudolf, Rosa, Ozaki, Kinjo, Cirno, and Ryuga

Belong to the second generation.

Feenie and Cake were the first of the third generation.

>>53904
I mean it's a bit hard to host a game without continued access to the internet.

However, that might be an interesting twist on things. I'll have a lot of free time, so I could write a game, and then I could pop in whenever I could to deny theories. People would have to be careful with their blues not because they have a limited number or because they can somehow lose, but because if they didn't think too carefully and came up with theories that were bound to be wrong, they'd have to wait a long time to realize.

>>53906
pls im kemi sama look wappow

>>53908
im 0th gerneation kz im ryukishi zoom

>>53910
No you are 2nd Generation K~~

>>53870
>>53876
Guess that makes me “Generation 0” or something, then: Originally interested in Umineko and discussions/theories (up until the horribly stupid answer was actually revealed, anyway), but reporting the original /a/ thread for horrible cancerous RP.
Though I somehow ended up here anyway, I was never really a “seacat” and the only reason I'm still around is out of habit.

>>53912
I never knew you were interested in Umineko. You've only read whatever people streamed, right?

>>53912
Sorry John, the fact that you already posted here more than once makes you a seacat forever~~~

>>53910

>>53909
That actually sounds like a lot of fun.

I'd definitely enjoy that kind of gameboard.

suddenly a Silence.

>>53898
That's probably wise, I think. Burnout can really have a devastating effect on quality if you let it, I know, so if you need some respite at this point that's definitely alright, especially considering that most of your heavy lifting seems to done already. I'd rather you take your and really ensure the final product's polished anyway, I'd hate to see you sabotage yourself because you felt obligated to finish in a certain time period. It's not like you've ever given out an official release date anyway, so nobody's going to berate you for taking extra time. On that topic, were you ever able to find someone for that movie, or is that more something you've resigned to impossibility at this point? I'm curious, because you've mentioned it a couple of times on your website.

And I saw that AX photo album you posted in image. Deat god was that a lot of files, you really must've been busy down there. I couldn't believe that even Bern decided to go; that isn't something I would have expected from her at all. I'm really eager to hear about everything that went on, bu it'll have to be at a later time I think; i'm absolutely beat right now.

>>53899
hi gojax

>>53900
Geez, aren't your friends supposed to give you gifts on your birthday? It shouldn't be the other way around!

>>53916
That's what I thought as well. Then again, you could always lay out theory after theory.

If I come back to 1000 blues though, I surely wouldn't have time to deny them all. Not as if that much interest could possibly be generated.

>>53918
No, I couldn't find anyone for an OP movie. Still trying to figure out how to get an OP song, too. I could probably put together something for the video myself, but I'm stuck as far as a song goes. Until we get that, I can't work on the video. Of course, an OP movie isn't necessary, but I think it would make the game a lot more professional (and act as a trailer to attract downloads).

>>53919
Good point. Either way, I'm sure it can be managed to work out, if you find the time to make something.

>>53920
>college
>time for myself
Impossible. After all these years, George hasn't had enough time to himself to even finish his beloved Umineko.

College life must be terribly frantic. I wouldn't know, of course.

>>53913
I actually read EPs 1 and 2 before finding this site, then most of 3, 4, and 5 from various different streams. Plus the hilarious machine-translated streams that started popping up on /jp/ after a while, but at that point it was only to laugh at it. Once the actual translation was out I read whichever EP was the one with the long, boring backstory followed by Will's whole “Ashes to ashes, dust to dust” scene or whatever it was. After the Teaparty/???? of that EP I just gave up on the whole thing.

I remember several threads of people trying to crack the Witch's Epitaph, and the whole Kuwadorian = Quadrillion thing as well. Originally I was one of the people who didn't want to believe the whole ShKanontrice nonsense because I wanted to believe there would actually be a logical and reasonable solution to the mystery. So much for that. Not that it's even worth anything at this point, but Kyrie was always the one I had pinned as the most likely culprit with Rudolf as a possible accomplice.

>>53918
Well, I just can't help wanting to give my friends something. Also speaking of gifts, would it be possible for you to get online sometime soon, I want to hear your opinion on a gift I want to give someone.

>>53922
Episode 7. One of my favorites, actually.

That reminds me, I'm been wondering about how the adults all stack up in intelligence.

I've been thinking something like this:
Kyrie
Eva
Rosa
Krauss
Rudolf
Natsuhi

I don't know where to place Hideyoshi. Normally, people make fun of Krauss's intelligence, but Rudolf doesn't do anything particularly clever, while Krauss is at least able to stand up against the parents in some of their schemes. All Rudolf seems to do is sit back and ask Kyrie for advice, or follow what Eva's doing.

>>53922
... I only just realised Kuwadorian is Quadrillion if you pronounce it in a gimpy way.

>>53921
Weren't you attending college at some point
in the past? Or am I confusing you with someone else? I could've sworn I remember you mentioning something about a scheduling mix up or something of that nature a long time ago. There were a lot of people going nameless around that time though, so it's definitely possible I misidentified you.

>>53920
I agree. After perusing the lemmasoft forums for a bit, I was actually pretty surprised to see that most of the producers there don't even seem to give the idea a passing thought. I realize that those are primarily hobbyist projects though, and there's no denying an OP is something that takes a massive amount of resources and time to realize. Moreover, if the result is less than satisfactory, or looks amateurish, it could have a heavily detrimental effect on how the VN is perceived. If you're still planning on this being a commercial project though, I'd stress that having an OP of appreciable quality really would do wonders for your professional image.

>>53674
chattin

>>53926
Sibling power levels are a very serious matter.

Nope, I've never been to college. Or university, for those who like wordplay.

>>53928
An uneducated bum, nyeh~

>>53924
I'd actually put Krauss above Rosa, but this depends what we mean by “intelligence”. While Krauss can sometimes be a bit idiotic, he was at least smart enough to make a lot of money, even if he did end up squandering most of it. That's my impression from what I remember, anyway.
Hideyoshi I'd probably have put somewhere around or above Rudolf, I guess.
Kyrie was a character I liked, because she was smart and competent. I only remember basing it on first impressions, but from what she seemed to know and the things she always seemed to be hiding, she was prime suspect material. Rudolf being dumb muscle had it make sense for him to be an accomplice in that scenario.

I guess I just realized too late that Umineko wasn't really the sort of story I was looking for after all. Any parts involving Ange would've put me to sleep were it not for Amakusa to make those scenes less boring, and that whole dull backstory in EP 7 almost made me hold ctrl just to get through it. The mystery was what attracted me to it, and the solution simply wasn't worth the time invested in my opinion.
One other thing I actually did like, though, was young Kinzo's backstory, with the Italians and the gold. I don't remember when I read that or even what EP it was from, only that it was in someone's stream after it had been translated.

>>53925
That's katakana in a nutshell right there. Technically Japanese has a lot of “loanwords” from English which are usually written in katakana, but the difference in pronunciation is so great that the only way to make the original English word sound anything like the Japanese version you need to dumbly slur it over and over in a monotone voice until you finally see the resemblance.

>>53926
For a long time I intended on making it strictly commercial. However, getting it all set up is more trouble than it's worth, I think.

The current plan is to release it for free and accept donations. I can always make another game commercial if I want money that badly, but the deciding factor in my change of heart was my motive for making the game in the first place -- I'd rather it be for fun than for profit. It just loses everything when the pressure of it being a commercial game is there. I'd rather keep the heart and integrity of the story intact than get too greedy and produce something that seems so fake and contradictory to the moral of the story itself.

>>53930
Nihihi─ I learn new things every day, nyeh~

>>53927
chhahtan

>>53931
>commercial
That's easy to set up, actually. BMTMicro etcetera. Their best plan (imo) allows you to sell games for as low as $4 and you get $3 profit for each copy sold.

Nihihi─ You could try Steam for a much better offer, but I think chances there are slim. Since you're three people (Kinjo, Butt, Gogo, right?) that's $1 for everyone for each copy sold, nyeh.

>>53929
Weren't you ignoring me? Of course, I can't deny it. I am a bum, and I am uneducated.

>>53930
I know some people have said they ctrl'd through it, but I don't see why. It's the culprit's backstory, and it explains the birth of Beatrice. I couldn't possibly find it boring. I liked the usage of music, too.

As for Krauss, as Kinzo puts it, he throws away two coins to obtain one and deludes himself into thinking he's earned money. I believe he's only still afloat because he embezzles Kinzo's funds, and even then he's in a perilous situation. While Kinzo revived the Ushiromiya fortune, it seems Krauss drove it back into the ground.

Speaking of embezzling, the siblings accuse Krauss of this, and blackmail him. Kanon reports their discussion to Kinzo. Kinzo then mocks how Krauss has been cornered by his siblings, and belittles the way Krauss turned the situation around on them. He gives no indication that he is upset or even curious about the suspicion that Krauss is embezzling his fortune. Why?

In episode 3, it is directly stated that Krauss is in fact doing so, so to the reader, it's no longer just a possibility. And Kinzo should know of the possibility due to these reports, you'd think he'd want to investigate it. You'd think he'd want to stop it to give Krauss what he deserves. You'd think he'd be outraged. You could argue that he no longer cares for such things and is going to have his whole family killed promptly anyway, but it's strange he doesn't at least comment on it.

I would if this could also have been a clue that he was dead. There's no longer anyone left to complain about their funds being embezzled. Well, apparently, fans had caught on to the fact by episode 3, since Ryuukishi07 stated that his decision to prematurely reveal it in episode 4 was in response to them. So I guess it's not strange that it was obvious in 3.

>>53934
Yes, I'm well aware of BMT Micro.

The problem arises in the fact that we first need a team name to register. And we can't seem to decide on one.

>>53936
"Metasoft"

>>53937
http://metasoftnet.com/wSite/

>>53936
i wouldn't want to be in a company named after a fagjo

>>53938
"Butlersoft"

>>53939
;_; (nice art, is that for your vn??)

>>53940
Also taken, although it has nothing to do with video games so I could probably get around it if I really wanted.
Doesn't sound as nice as Kinjosoft though.

>>53939
im not dis gud yet u fagt

>soft

Blasphemous mongrels.

>>53941
...Jorancesoft.

>>53942
omg moe bird did u draw dat

>>53944
You lost me.

>>53946
Chocolatebutlergilijaxsoft.

>>53947
that may be better than any of the ones Kinjo has suggested

>>53947
I see what you did there.

>>53945
i like tvs ys

>>53949
Fits perfectly. It's decided, then.

Now, I think I've wasted too much time here when there's the gloriously voiced Umineko to read. Enjoy yourselves.

>>53935
It can't be helped, maybe I do like you a little.

>>53936
>difficult to set up commercial
>can't into team names

>>53951
buy :3

>>53951
Seems so, we finally have a name.

Was nice talking again Piece, but I guess I should get back to work now.

>>53928
Ah sorry, my mistake. As for the exigent matter of sibling power levels, I was going to write a lengthy post about it, but it really just boils down to what john said about defining intelligence. Depending on how you look at it, I think there could be a bit of variation, especially towards the bottom of the rankings, but in the context of most of the more popular theories, save a few specific ones regarding multiple intelligences, I think it's pretty safe to say that Kyrie's the undisputed winner.

>>53931
I think that's a laudable approach. The logistics of commercial projects can really be a pain, even after all the legal stuff is taken care of.

>>53936
Gold Bar Productions?

"The gold standard in VNs"

>>53954
What did you decide on?

>>53955
Actually one of the first ideas I had was "Goldbar Games" (GG) but I think it was Ozaki who shot that one down.

>>53956
>ILoveButler
no comment

It's like I'm suddenly the bad guy.

>>53951
Farewell Peas, i'm glad I was able to talk to you before you became unable to visit. Lettuce meet again someday, when the seagulls cry.

>>53958
It's a charming name.

>>53952
Well, that's a start.

>>53958
ICan'tBelieveIt'sNotButler. Soft.

>>53962

>>53960
I'll still be here for a bit. You're saying you won't even be here tomato?

Well, in any case, farewell. It's always nice to see you.

>>53963

What kind of /seacats/ am I supposed to be ?

nox where

>>53966
89th gen

>>53957
I actually think that's a pretty good name. It has a nice ring to it, and it even makes reference to what type of goods you're actually producing. Clarity of that sort never hurts.