"Whether your piece died instantly or you passed at, you weren't in a position to know anything more than you did."

"I have a question," Bernkastel raises her hand. "The culprit. Are you really going to try and make us believe that it's some mysterious extra person?"

"Is that important?" I look at the ceiling above me. "Very well. The culprit is someone that Amy and Ozaki saw in the course of the game. In other words, the culprit is either Krauss, Natsuhi, Jessica, Dr. Nanjo, Gohda, Kumasawa, Genji, Eva, Hideyoshi, George, Battler, Rudolf, Kyrie, Maria, Rosa, Ozaki, or Amy. Nobody apart from those 17 people on the island are the culprit. There is only one culprit."

Theories presented in the game each had their flaws. Kumasawa did not lock the door to Krauss's study, nor was her key taken from her. Genji did not give up his key, either.

In the gold room, you found Maria's corpse. You saw a red proclaimed that the person who killed Maria did not exit up the stairs. I'll also say that that person did not escape through the trap door immediately after killing Maria.

That's all I have to say."

"Excellent," Bernkastel says. "With how long bureaucracy takes, it should be just about time to get this show on the road."

"What are you talking about, Bernkastel?"

Three extra people appear in the tea party room.

"Ange Ushiromiya, you are under arrest for the production of an illegal FORGERY."

"What?" I look at Bernkastel. "You..."

"I'm just doing my duty as an upstanding citizen. You might want to run."

"This isn't over, Bernkastel."

I disappear. They follow.

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Bernkastel floats proudly in the air. "I think that went well. With the withdrawal of its game master, rule of the board transfers to me. I could be greedy and just stay with my original plan to keep the board halted in oblivion, but perhaps I've gotten too generous over the years. I want to give this game board a fair shake and see what pops out.

Let's begin. Send in those theories! The game is afoot!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daeEZHSYGHM

Concealment of the Golden Witch

Ushiromiya Kinzo - Dead at the start of the game (Just stay dead already)

Ushiromiya Eva - Killed on the first twilight (Had it coming, if you ask me)

Ushiromiya Hideyoshi - Killed on the first twilight (And does anyone really care?)

Chiyo Kumasawa - Killed on the first twilight (Played a fatal game of Old Maid)

Ushiromiya Maria - Killed on the first twilight (Weren't you secretly relieved?)

????? Amy - Status unknown. Possibly killed on the first twilight (Don't be too hopeful. You're dead.)

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>By the time I got to the corridor, only Haruki was still outside her room. She appeared to be busy testing her key on Kouko's room.

Something was pushed into the lock from outside the room. That way, Kouko wouldn't have noticed anything wrong when she tried to lock the door.

"...I guess I'll have to give it to you."

Something jammed the lock such that when Kouko turned the lock, she didn't lock the door properly.

THE THIRD MOVEMENT

The little girl slain by an invisible hand

This one's a little murky, isn't it? Your task is to find a logical way how she died, because Hitsugi was as cautious as the others. She wouldn't have gotten poisoned easily.

That red is fairly vague. I'm having doubts if this death would merit a three theory limit, but I'll play along.

Whatever killed her was introduced to her body before she started eating(ie a slow acting poison). Perhaps it wasn't even ingested and entered via other means such as injection, or simply ingesting something other than the meal we have been shown.

While we are at it can we get confirmation that this is a murder?

Mod Note: Hey NewPlayer, I am locking this thread for now since it has been inactive for a few months. If you wish to continue just post in /teaparty/ saying so and I can unlock this thread.

>>15265
Oh good, I've remembered everything? Then I should also remember the wounds on each body. After all, I had them photographed for a reason..

I recall the photographs depicting the wounds for each and every victim, one last time.

>>15266
Eva - Shot multiple times in random areas
Hideyoshi - Shot multiple times, mostly in the face
Rudolf - Shot in the back of the head
Kyrie - Shot in the back of the head
Krauss - Shot multiple times in random areas
Natushi - Shot multiple times in random areas

Jessica - Shot in the side of head, hole in leg
Kanon - Shot in the chest, hole in leg

Gohda - Shot in the face multiple times
Rosa - Shot multiple times in random areas
Genji - Shot multiple times in random areas

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>>15267
Battler didn't die. The corpse that was found wearing the white suit in the chapel was Kinzo's, who was murdered before the game started. He was murdered by Krauss, who returned to the dining hall, barricaded the door, and died from the gunshot wounds. Battler had shot Krauss in self-defense at the very end, and then ran away through the underground tunnels and survived the Rokkenjima Incident, while Krauss, the culprit, did not.

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>>15268
Well you are correct that Battler shot someone, and that the body was someone elses; however the body is not of Kinzo. Krauss is not the culprit, Battler is.

With that being said I will explain the solution.

The answer is basically the old 'Battler really isn't Battler" solution. He was hired by Kyrie and Rudolf to pose as their son. While on the island he discovered the gold by solving the epitaph and also found Shannon getting ready to kill everyone.

Shannon handed over the bank card full of money(after all the gold pile was said to be uneven) and after some discussion the fake Battler convinced her to help with killing everyone anyway, after all with this much money he didn't need Kyrie and Rudolf.

He showed Kyrie and Rudolf the gold and money to get them on his side and they went to the dining room where all the adults and Genji were. With Kyrie and Rudolf help they shot everyone there, and then Shannon and Battler shot them in the back of the head. Gohda and Kanon were in the kitchen so they killed them as well.

Shannon convinced Battler to allow her to set up crime scenes in weird ways as well as hand over the rifle he was using(he agreed since he had brought a hand gun anyway). Battler went back to the guesthouse and pretended everything was fine. Shannon called Jessica out and killed her. Then started to set up the first few rooms, Genji and Rosa were in the dining room as well and were moved with the garbage bags in the trash can in order to not spill blood. She then called again asking for Battler's help when George picked up, George didn't like Shannon and Battler getting so close and told Battler that they were needed at the garden shed.

Once there George asked him about Shannon and what have you so Battler laughed which caused th

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>>15253

Genji locked the ladder in the gardening shed after using it. The ladder was not involved in the murder.

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Well then.

The culprit used the phone cord of the wall-mounted phone, or some other cable-like object in the room, to climb out of the window.

Oh and about that error thing.
The culprit put something between the doorframe when Genji brought Kinzo his meal. To keep it open for the murder later.

Later it was still in the door causing an ERROR. After seeing this the culprit secretly removed it.

Wha - I was defeated in one fell swoop?!

It's close enough. Here's the full solution. Rudolf was the culprit, and after secretly following Genji up when serving his Master's meal, Rudolf used the economics booklet mentioned earlier to prop the door open for later. Once Genji had left Rudolf entered and shot Kinzo, however upon finding that it failed quickly took the telephone cord and strangled Kinzo to death with it.

He then tied the cord to the desk and climbed down to the first floor, reaching the parlor just in time for Genji to see him. When they all went up to the study and Gohda typed the code, it indeed showed error because the door wasn't fully closed. When Rudolf typed the code he kicked the booklet away and closed the door and managed to get the keypad working. Since Rudolf was the first one in he managed to remove the booklet and the cord before anyone could properly examine them.

Good job. Til the next time.

Heh, so everything the killer used was actually mentioned in the narrative. Good job.

The red about the window being impossible to climb out of threw me off since I assumed this included any possible equipment. I'll make sure to ask for clarification next time. Until then.

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Just posting a few thoughts here for today; I should be able to get on Skype for proper discussion tomorrow.

The part about Kanon is almost certainly right. The question is, who was the "fake Kanon" whose body was found in the boiler room and who Ozaki apparently met in the kitchen? You'd think that there would be something in the game to hint at this if it really follows Knox's 8th, so I'm not sure we can consider it fully solved yet. It's also interesting that, outside of that unreliable scene in the kitchen, I don't believe we ever saw Kanon once throughout this entire game...So where was the real Kanon, what was he doing, and how did he get killed?

Nanjo's room seems to be fairly straightforwardly solved if the statements about the lock being set are unreliable, and we already know about the discrepancies in >>13824 so, disregarding the posts relating to the final riddle, that only leaves two more of these posts to look at - >>13804 and >>13806 - which I'm not really sure what to make of. I'm assuming that these are related to the weird part where everyone disappears; I'll have to take a closer look at it when I have more time.

Rambling post about whos and whys incoming. This probably isn't going to help with the whodunnits, but there's three parts to this, and we've only sorted one, so time to take a crack at the rest.

Regarding Kanon, we know that the 'fake' Kanon is younger than Gohda, based on the post where he and Gohda escort Ozaki to his room shortly after the start of the game. The 'real' Kanon is present on the island, although we only see him twice; once at dinner, and once when Natsuhi sends him and Genji to search for further survivors. Unless I'm mistaken, this is the last time we see Kanon, and Genji ends up dead shortly afterwards.

Regarding the motive, the only pattern I can see here is that the victims are Kinzo and his servants (mystery fake Kanon aside). Kinzo's rant seems directed mainly at Krauss and Eva, but it's a flimsy motive...

Regarding who has opportunities for what, let's start with Nanjo, seeing as his death is the easiest to pin down, time-wise. The culprit here has to be a member of Ozaki's group, as everyone else was with Rika in the parlor, and as she noticed Krauss' visit to the bathroom, I'd imagine she'd notice any other movements there too. Gohda remains with Ozaki for the duration after Rosa and co.'s disappearance, which narrows it down to Maria, Rosa, George or Shannon... For this murder, at least.

Frankly, I'm leaning towards Rosa being the culprit, or at least involved in a large capacity. We saw her visit the guesthouse, she was at the table where the letter was found... I'd do more puzzling out, but I've run out of time. I'll come back to this later.

It's had us stumped for months, but we're finally nearing a theory. The truth behind this nightmarish gameboard is about to be revealed! We've got seven days to fill in the blanks, but given we've got this far, I'm sure it's possible.

So, how was this whole nightmare possible? Simple. The culprits of this gameboard are Rosa and Gohda, with Shannon as an accomplice!

An unlikely partnership, I know. But to understand its origins, we have to move back before the start of this gameboard. Kinzo's speech on the first evening underlines one single idea: his children are useless. But why has it taken him so long to make this appearance, and say this? Why at this family conference?

The truth is, Kinzo lied during that speech. By the time Ozaki and Rika arrived on the island, the epitaph had long since been solved by Kanon. However, as a mere servant, and not of Ushiromiya blood, he could never become Kinzo's heir. However, in a rare moment of kindness, Kinzo agreed to share the inheritance amongst the servants.

That night, he laid the grounds for this idea amongst the family, so that when his death came about, it would not be as a total surprise that the siblings inherited nothing. However, what should have been taken as a warning was taken as a challenge by Rosa, the child who had never achieved anything of worth. That night, spurred on by her father's scorn, she solved the epitaph, and using Kinzo's request for his dinner to be brought up as cover, she confronted him, possibly with Gohda in tow to act as a witness.

What happened then would set off the chain of events that lead to the end of the gameboard. Kinzo revealed the truth, that her claim was invalid, and that the epitaph had already been solved. Refusing to accept this, after all her work, Rosa killed him in a fit of anger, and proclaimed herself the true successor. She laid out the scene as an accident, moving Kinzo's body to the VIP room. Perhaps Gohda helped, the idea of the old man slipping on a wet carpet is certainly something only a buffoon could come up with.

Aware that her cl

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I shall now reveal the solution to this game.

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