No. 182

>>181
Are you mocking me~?
When Erika and Nanjo entered Nanjo's room, they didn't closed the main door.

No. 183

>>182
No I'm not.

When Erika and Nanjo entered Nanjo's room. They closed the main door. The one that leads into the hallway.

No. 184

Alright, another classic.
The Nanjo's murderer was still inside of Nanjo room when Battler and CO found "Nanjo's corpse"!
Nanjo was not dead when Battler and CO found "Nanjo's corpse".
Erika murdered Nanjo

No. 185

>>184
Nanjo died within seconds.

Neither of those explain how Erika vanished from the room.

No. 186

>>185
So Nanjo was still not completely death?
Okay, please go back in time, one second before the Battler and CO entered Nanjo's room.
Please list everyone who is inside Nanjo's room, whenever his life status is.

No. 187

>>186
Okay, please go back in time, one second before the Battler and CO entered Nanjo's room.

Please list everyone who is inside Nanjo's room, whenever his life status is.

At this time. Nanjo is inside the room, he is dead. No living beings exist inside the room, and no more than 1 dead body exists.

No. 188

Getting stuck so easily? anon you suck!
The culprit and erika escaped from the bathroom window. It was open at the start and it was left open.
During some point in time, another way of exit exited aside from the main door and the bathroom window!

No. 189

>>188
During this game the window in the bathroom was never open.

During this game the only exists and entrances that have existed in Nanjo's room are the main one, that leads into the hallway, and the windows.

No. 190

Congratz to Cake who figured out the answer.

The door was removed from the wall. And the culprit left the room this way. The red refering to how the door was locked and so on is pointless, since the door actually isn't blocking anything.

Next mystery: Krauss and Natsuhi's bodies vanishing.

No. 191

Oh derp, I totally forgot to check the remove trick on the door.
Anyways, did this point finally went to Beato?

No. 192

>>191
Yep, Beato got a point finally.

No. 193

The dissapearing bodies huh?
The guest room was alone for a long while, and it have plenty entraces, such as windows doors and probably others~
Also, who says the bodies are not still in the guesthose?

No. 194

What about Battler's account of the bodies when they entered the guesthouse again?

No. 195

Maria triggered some kind of bow when she got near of the rose, the arrow pierced her.
Bunnies came from nowhere and bitted Maria to death.
Maria was poisoned.

No. 196

>>195
Maria did not trigger a bow.

Bunnies did not attack Maria.

No. 197

Maria was poisoned from before than going to the Rose garden.
Some kind of mechanism or physical trap was stinged with poison, and it hurt Maria when she was near of her Rose.

No. 198

>>197
Maria was not poisoned before going to the rose garden.

Since Genji wants me to use these.

Knox's 4. No hitherto undiscovered poisons may be used, nor any appliance which will need a long scientific explanation at the end.

What is this mechanism or trap?

No. 199

Hoh, knox makes things more fun.

No. 200

Rosa perfume was used to poison Maria

No. 201

>>200
Rosa's perfume was not used to kill Maria.

No. 222

Alright, the most obvious one.
Erika was killed by either Rosa or Jessica! They were both suspicious of her.

No. 223

>>222
Knox's 8th. It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.

Are there any clues that would lead to this assumption?

No. 224

Oh come on, this was not even subtle!
First than nothing, Erika dissapeared in the meta world, so I will for now assume she was murdered.
Now, Jessica is suspicious. She believed she witnessed Shannon killing Eva when her corpse was in Natsuhi room, also fantasy everywhere.
Then Jessica-like thing appeared and attacked battler and maria inside the delusions.
Futhermore Jessica was really angry with Erika and she had exclaimed she would kill the murdered.

On the other side, Rosa apparently have problems controlling herself, her name appeared inside of the boiler room and she pretended to don't understand that kaiji. Lastly, she found the gold (apparently), and talks with imaginary people (maybe).

No. 225

>>224
Neither Jessica nor Rosa murdered Erika.

No. 226

When the clock struck midnight the following pieces were still alive.

Rudolf
Rosa
Jessica
George
Shannon
Erika

No. 227

You see, this game was quite fun, but it would not be respetable from my part if this gameboard didn't ended some day.
I was a bit stuck with the mastermind from the start, but after a pleasant night of thinking I got unto something, better than keeping in silence I think.

Anyways, this is the theory.
Krauss is the mastermind. The massacre started because Rosa found the gold. Because of the economics problems, they had already in search of it, but without avail.
Then stupid Rosa found the precious gold. And she escaped from an early death. There was no other way but too wipe everyone on this island.
Krauss, being the master of the mansion could easily lure all the servants and kill them without problem, Kanon become an accomplice with the promise of being admited to the family.
The first twilight was quite easy, the key and doors trick was already explained. How Eva and Hideyoshi died? I still have no idea, but they probably killed Kanon in self defense. Kyrie and Kinzo murder is no problem as well. Being the master of the mansion removing a door would be not a problem, neither using a trap to kill Maria.
Anyways, that's my first call Rosa! Otherwise Natsuhi could be the mastermind or an accomplice at least, using basically the same hints, even more Eva was find dead inside of her room!

No. 228

>>227
............
Neither Krauss nor Natsuhi are the mastermind.

No. 229

Not them? Geez that's troublesome you see.
I will first than nothing ask for the definition of mastermind.

No. 230

>>229
The mastermind is the one plots to kill everyone or almost everyone, and is the person who does most if not all the killings.

No. 231

If the money was not the problem then the problem was love!
The trigger point was the adults discovery of their child relationship!
If Natsuhi/Krauss is not good then there's other chance.
Either Jessica or George is the culprit!
And I gotta say, I am looking at you, George!

No. 232

>>231
The trigger point of the story was not the adults finding out about the cousins relationships.

Jessica is not the mastermind.
George is not the mastermind.

George is the detective.

No. 233

As my last try for tonigh please repeat this in red.
Battler died in the 7th or in the 8th twilight. He was then beheaded, and his corpse was found in the harbor, near to Maria's corpse

No. 234

>>233
>in the harbor

Battler died at the 8th twilight, his corpse was beheaded, and found next to Maria's corpse in the arbor.

No. 235

I think I got the culprit this time Rosa.
But I want no more mistakes, so I'm gonna reread the ep to confirm my theory.

No. 237

Another request.
The mastermind was still alive at the end of the 8th twilight

No. 238

I'm getting in despair you see, but this will my last stupid guess, if this is not correct I don't know what is right or wrong anymore!
You have already denied in red other people, but I want to summarize it on a single post.
Jessica is the mastermind.
George is the mastermind.
Krauss is the mastermind.
Natsuhi is the mastermind.
Erika is the mastermind. (derp)
Shannon is not the mastermind. (double derp)
Well, we already know that, but please deny it again, just to be sure.
Anyways, my new theory is this.
Ushiromiya Battler is the mastermind!
He could not handle to see Shannon being in love with George! Even Mach said it!
So he teamed out with Jessica, and it was mentioned Jessica knew something that could put Natsuhi in problems!
How was this hinted, well Battler doesn't have an alibi for several of the twilights, he doesn't have an objective point of view, when he was making the table of alibis he didn't included himself and more importantly, Mach hint.
Mach hint was about that game where the people bullying the demon are actually the demons, and he say this to Battler.

No. 239

Jessica is not the mastermind.
George is not the mastermind.
Krauss is not the mastermind.
Natsuhi is not the mastermind.
Erika is not the mastermind.
Shannon is not the mastermind.

Battler is not the mastermind.

The mastermind's motive has nothing to do with Shannon being in love with George.

Jessica is not an accomplice to the mastermind.

No. 240

I may need some help, I can't find any real hints for any other mastermind.

No. 241

Kinzo is the mastermind! He didn't directly murder but he ordered it!

No. 242

>>241
Kinzo is not the mastermind.

No. 243

Wordplay exist in the mastermind mistery!
Someone who used to be called Erika, Jessica, Kanon, Kinzo, Battler, Natsuhi or Krauss is the mastermind!

No. 244

>>243

No. 245

>>243
Fine then...

No one who ever held the name; Jessica, George, Battler, Natsuhi, Krauss, Shannon, Kinzo, or Erika is the mastermind.

No. 246

Kinzo really thinked than following the epitaph would allow him to meet Beato again, so he challenged his descendants to follow it to adquire the headship!
Kinzo death was faked!

No. 247

>>246
Denied.

Kinzo was dead by the 4th twilight.

No. 248

Listing down the possible mastermind:
Rosa
Kyrie
Rudolf
Eva (?)
Hideyoshi(His body was not found)

No. 249

Dont mind me I am just watching at the spectacle.

No. 250

Maria was killed with poison laced on the Roses.

Hinted via fantasy scene.

No. 251

>>250
I think I tried something similar.
Something like Maria was poisoned with a Rose

No. 252

>>250
>>251
You must be refering to.
Maria's candy was not poisoned.
Maria was not killed by poison gas.
Rosa's perfume was not used to kill Maria.


Nonetheless, Maria's rose was not laced with poison, nor was any other rose.