I am the bone of my sword.

>>69584
>>69587
This seems pretty odd to me. How are you guys getting these impressions from the text? The whole point of that backstory interlude for Kirei was that he never chose to be that way. He very adamantly wanted NOT to be, and that point is made pretty clearly in his other interlude.

Regardless of whether you believe that people choose to become evil in real life, it is very apparent from the text that Kirei did not choose that, and resisted it with all of his power. To deny that is basically to deny the whole point of his character.

>>69640
Interpretations Rika~ Interpratations~

>>69640
People who have evil natures but are raised religious face a very odd conundrum. Especially if they were raised in a very staunchly Catholic (oppressively so) setting. This propensity for evil causes nothing but suffering for the individual. His only means of relief would be schadenfreude, something I can easily meet by writing mysteries.

Kinjo_and_I_cosplaying.jpg

>>69640
Are you embracing your final fate, a fate/streamcat?

>>69611
I'm a little late to the discussion but this post brings up an interesting point I hadn't thought of before.

Remember in EP5 Battler uncovered the truth. This means he also uncovered the whole Beatrice = Yasu thing. I suspect that the moment he figured out Beatrice wasn't this great witch he thought she was, THAT is when she died, and thus Battler did technically kill her. And that is why he couldn't revive her again. Battler has this mental picture of Yasu, a delusional servant, in his head, not the Golden Witch. So that witch can't possibly come back.

In other words, all variations of meta-Beatrice are in fact the same Beatrice, just acting differently depending on Battler's perception of who Beatrice is. You can't forget things (lol amnesia) so once you remember, that mental image can't go away. Hence why the pre-answer Beatrice can never revive. Her image was tainted by Yasu, not just for us (the readers), but for Battler as well.

The government defunded my initiative, now I'm constantly flat-footed!

The question of the "evil nature" is an incredibly thorny one. Abnormal or antisocial behavior is not in and of itself necessarily evil. One can imagine a compulsive sadist living alone on a deserted island who has no potential to do evil because there is no one upon whom to inflict intentional pain for no readily justifiable reason.

Moreover, there is the question of whether such things are truly "nature" at all, or whether those behaviors are simply socialized.

And none of that quite gets into the moral question of whether a person who believes themselves subject to influences or compulsions they believe to be immoral is obligated not to act upon those compulsions. One would perhaps argue that not acting upon immoral influences is rather the point of morality in the first place, as morality exists to restrain behavior and create an acceptable social framework.

Given that, one could even cynically argue that morality is solely social, and antisocial behavior is "evil," even if there does not appear to be anything individually unethical about it. But that starts trampling on our concept of individuality and personal rights, and advances the notion that a person is obligated to commit personally unethical acts that are considered socially acceptable, which has justified countless atrocities. So most people are understandably inclined to reject that idea.

The opposing view would be to say that where a society is not morally in concert with a derived system of individual ethics, then it's society that is evil. But then you run right back into the initial problem that people may or may not be psychologically the same on a fundamental biological level, meaning the system of ethics that I derive may not appear ethical to you.

Some philosophers get us part of the way there but obviously this is an issue that may never be settled.

I liked Nox. He did horrible, irredeemable evil things, but he justified it with "it's okay, I can fix this!" right up until the end. And when he found out he couldn't fix what he broke...

>>69646
>not japanese

>>69647
What?

Oha.

mfw everyone wants to make a ripoff of Katawa shoujo

Seriously.

>>69650
forgot your face

>>69650
>mfw none of you are praising my very presence

>>69652
...Who are you again?

>>69653
E-excuse me!?

>>69654
Who. Are. You?

>>69654
You are not worthy of any praise. Begone foul being.

>>69655
I'm the witch of making walls THIS wide!!

>>69656
semi colon dash semi colon

hhnngh dat psyduck

>>69657

>>69657
Oh. Nice to meet you.

>>69652

gj for exist

Seriously, who has a "release all the captive monsters" button? Right when I saw that, I paused the movie and debated it with my sister to death about it. In addition, who has said button next to a set of elevators where the monsters can be released at anyways? It's an awesome movie, Mr. Whedon, but come on. That's one piss poor plot device to get such a scene going.

>>69660
its someone you already know astaroth~

>>69664

>>69665
hi wat u streming

>>69666
Final Fantasy IX.

livestream.com/LionMusicRoom

So many lies etc.

>>69565
>like Piece
libel

>>69605
>It's a long story actually. It started with...
wtf you weren't even there. Did you make this up on the spot?

>>69610
>Firstly, Bern doesn't want to know what I sound like, or what I look like.
entirely untrue

>>69619
>I don't know much about Bern
More like way too much.

>Even if her character is to be my fan

>>69621
>I thought it was the reverse considering Meta and Bern
Even knowing it's a troll, I feel insulted.

>>69624
>I think she stopped herself from knowing things because of respect for the illusion.
OOC

Also,
>>69619
>even less now that we haven't spoken in depth for a long time
I'm still willing, ok.

>>69628
Coin toss.

>>69640
What impression? Obviously with how he turned out, he didn't fight it hard enough. Besides, it didn't look to me like he "adamantly didn't want it," all he was doing was following what his daddy did. Sure, he tried a few things, but even if the text tries to claim a person can be born evil I won't buy it, and I'm not convinced that's what Nasu was trying to claim.

In any case, Kotomine Kirei is morally reprehensible, despicable, and utterly irredeemable. There's no room for pity in the character. He chooses to do evil things because they bring him pleasure. Nobody has forced that upon him. Trying to claim otherwise is just lunacy.

>>69672
In the end nobody understood Kotomine Kirei. Not his father, nor his teacher. To struggle against one's morals, to do it over and over, and to find no fitting answer is to suffer. One does not simply struggle with this propensity for a short time. You feel it every day of your life, you fight it every time you are annoyed by someone, every time you make a decision, every time you contemplate morality. Alone, with a friend, at a party, you struggle with it.

Kotomine couldn't bring himself to feel anything other than regret at losing a potential victim when his wife died. The same was for the death of his father. He would not let the third slip by.

Call it a first world problem, call it a choice towards evil, but it is the blame of this accursed human condition. That inescapable nature that we all feel, we all experience, that which binds us all.

>>69671
bren-sama you're the best

>>69673

wat about gilgamesh

>>69673
>Call it a first world problem, call it a choice towards evil, but it is the blame of this accursed human condition.

No, I'll blame the person responsible for the actions: Kotomine Kirei. To do otherwise is to avert one's eyes from the truth: that he did have a choice. He just chose to commit evil.

>>69677
What about villains who use a flimsy justification that come off as condescending while knowing full well that it's a bunch of crap?

>>69678
What about them?

>>69675

>>69680
dus is pt qt

tired

>>69601
No I don't.

>>69608
Leash? I'll GIFT WRAP the guy for ya!

>>69683
pffft

>>69671
Well now, I didn't expect you to disagree that much. How troublesome.

It's perfectly true that you held off from information in the past, and though perhaps it was not for reasons of the illusion, those were the reasons you gave. From the same events we can reason that you don't want to know of those forbidden things, even if it is out of character, because you will only carry that character so far. By the way, one's character doesn't have to be far off from the truth, it can just be an exaggeration of it. After all, seacats have a responsibility to live up to their roles for dramatic effect. Though those from later generations may not understand this notion. Please refer to the precedent set by Piece vs Belphe.

If you have any further complaints then I have a Skype. Yoroshiku.

>>69684
I wouldn't be so sure about that.

WE ARE THE CARTOON HEEEEROESS WOOOOOAA OHHHHHHHHHH

>>69686
crazyneko 2spooky

Trello is amazing for project management, or just management in general.

>Kara no Kyoukai entire collection
>Gankutsuou gold box
>Trigun gold box

Why can't I hold all these animes ?
next time I have enough money, Samurai Champloo and Paranoia Agent will be mine ! If only Fate-Zero didn't cost an arm I'd buy it too.

>>69690

>>69679
Are they any good?

Apparently this is the "Teaparty of Let's Respond to Day-Old Posts From The Previous Thread", so

>>69593
>>69596
>>69601
I was part of no such plotting, stop trying to make me look bad okay.

yesssss finally, I managed to get the old sprites!!

Oha.

>1/1 scale Stone Mask
>14,350 JPY
>mid Jun-2013
I want to reject my humanity. Red Stone of Aja where.

>>69695
Hi, how was your day etc.

>>69695

>>69696
Random depression etc. Don't even know why.

>>69698
I've been like that for the past few days myself, sucks when that happens. Then I had a dentist appointment yesterday, threw up when I got home, slept for a day, and I'm starting to feel a bit better now.

>>69697
Hi.

>>69699
Yeah it sucks. It's good that you're starting to feel better though.

I got invited to go out tonight and play mahjong, should I go?

>>69700
I tried learning how to play mahjong a couple of times before, but I only ever got far enough to understand what was going on in Akagi or Saki and why it was so crazy.
That sounds like fun, though. If it was me then I'd probably go, if I didn't have anything better to do.

>>69700
Mahjong is the best, you should play and invite me.

>>69701
I guess it might be okay.. I'll think about it more later. I think the people that will be playing are fairly decent.

>>69702
Good tiles feel really nice to play with and you can come play any time.

>>69703
do want http://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Riichi-Mahjong-White-Tiles/dp/B003UU129U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362167019&sr=8-1&keywords=japanese+mahjong

ohaaaaaa

>>69705
Hi.

>>69707

Lion, why u no answer!! lol

>>69704
Dats prett chip

Rejoice, Sonozaki Mion

>>69638
wat

OH WOW, brand new eps of Whose Line is it Anyway are coming, with the same cast as before!

>>69712
yssssss

>>69713
This is the best thing ever!

im dling thomb raider :OOO

>>69716

u gonna strm slat raider???

>>69717
Horseslap!

hi i woke up early so I'm already here

>>69719
Hi other me anon~

>>69720
hi

>>69722
Ohayou.

>>69724
Hey there. You forgot to change the filename.

>>69725
What do you mean change the filename?

>>69727
That picture was originally posted by me, I said you forgot to replace the random name by the name I used originally.

>>69728
Who said anything about pretending to be someone else?

>>69729
Didn't you post as me the other day?

>>69730
I don't remember anything like that! If I was to pretend to be you, why would I use pictures like these? I would have to be talking to myself.

>>69731
It happened like some hours before someone else tried to impersonate you, but apparently his attempt was so very unprofessional.

>>69732
I don't know. trying to follow what you're talking about is making me dizzy. I'm going to lie down. Oyasumi.

>>69733
Sleep well.

>>69736

http://anime.about.com/b/2013/02/19/cast-your-vote-in-the-2013-anime-about-com-readers-choice-awards.htm?fun

>>69738
There's something very wrong with that list.

>>69739
What's 2012 best animay anyway?

>>69740
that one with the girl named riri(chiyo)

>>69741
whats that

>>69742
The one you didn't watch since the cute girls scared you off.

>>69743
Scared? But I watch plenty shows with cute girls.

>>69740