>>34790

Hello, ANGE-Beatrice. Welcome back.

>>34792
Of course not.

If anyone wants Uminekos, they can go to Golden Gameboard.

>>34794

Another Umineko here! But just so you know, I'm a different Ange from Dungeon Master Shion. That's why I picked ANGE Beatrice.

>>34796

Funny you mention that. I tried, it looks like it's down at the moment. So....

>>34797
Are you another one of those goats who learnt about this place from Kinjo's EP 4.

>>34797
Ah, I see. I thought you were that Ange. But it doesn't matter. Welcometo /seacats/.

GG went down a long time ago. When I went there to download Kinjo/Seagull's ONS Tutorial, GG was down that time.

Well... My timezone is different from many of them too. I'm from Brazil and I have +6 hours. So, here are, now, 11:43 (In Brazil we work with 24h time, not AM/PM)

>>34798

Kinda. I knew about this place from hearing it a couple times but I didn't know the URL or anything. So there are others in the same situation?

.....Ange doesn't have very many happy sprites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgIACgXmNoU

Oh god, mah ears.

>>34799

Thanks for the info. I thought everyone would be from America. The US I mean (guess you're still in America technically)

I'm from Australia. So the timezone is completely off.... looks like I'm 11 hours behind or 13 hours ahead of you.

>>34800
Half of the seacats died during an offline meeting, while the rest were convinced this board is cursed and left.

>>34801
That link is familiar.

>>34803

Did that happen.

>>34801

Milky Holmes? Good anime.

>>34803

Considering it would be meetup for a murder mystery community I wouldn't be that surprised.

>>34802
Yep, not everyone are from USA. Anon and Lion are from Mexico and Ozaki, I think, is from Canada.

>>34803
Booooo~! /seacats/ Creepypasta.

>>34804

Nice to meet you "fat"~ Don't ban me pls

>>34806

That's right, Mr. cute typo's.

>>34804
Yes, you chickened out at the last minute to save your sorry self though.

>>34805
Right, this place currently runs on the essence of Katawa Shoujo. Feel free to leave, 2+2=22

whtfkisgoonher

>>34808

Eh?? You lost me.

>>34808
>Right, this place currently runs on the essence of Katawa Shoujo.
>Nobody talking about it here.

Stream doesn't count.

>>34811
Clearly you haven't been around long enough to understand that all the dirty talk comes from streamchat.

>>34807

Hiya ne~

>>34808

Sux ne.

>>34812
Since my timezone is 6 hours ahead from USA, I can't chat all time in stream.

>>34814
Here, an example.

>>34815
reported
reported
reported
reported
reported

I'll have to check those streams out too. Even when they look a little.....lewd.

I'm tired though so goodnight. Nice to meet you all!

What's all this then?

>>34818
Apparently someone showed up looking for Uminekos. Must've been a wrong address.

>>34818
Avert your eyes, lion cub. I will deal with these degenerates.

>>34820
Kay-o.

What's with all the censorship?

>>34822
It's just a manifest about censorship in internet/journals/etc.
If you are for it, then you put a black strip in your website.

>>34822
More SOPA/PIPA stuff threatening the entire internet. Protests and whatnot.

>Myth-Weavers is doing it, too
Good thing I'm GoogleDocs, huh.

>>34825
I just have my statblock saved on the computer, so I use that instead.

Stop posting that picture geez.

>prepare awesome censorship banner
>go to sleep, wait for reactions
>just a single one, then ignore because lol mythweavers

Isn't it the same one 4chan uses?

>>34827
What, this one?

>>34830
Someone just kill me already.

>>34831
Why so flustered?

>>34828
Problem?

Gaping Dragon dekita! Time to fight the hydra!

>3 more episodes till the end of Shiki marathon.

Go go me.

>>34835
Isn't this one of those sprites from that hentai adventure game?

>>34836
Really? I wasn't aware of that. Do you have the title of the game in mind?

>>34837
I don't know if this is really the Hentai Adventure game. But this sprite remmembered about it.

Where did you get it?

>>34838
My sources must remain a secret.

>>34839
Ok, then. When I found the name, I'll say to you.

>>34837
>not aware
That is a good one.

>>34839
Gore Screaming Show for that one.

>>34841
Aluraune? That's what they're normally called, I think.

>>34841
Mamono Musume to no Seikatsu -Alraune no Baai-
is the name

>>34844
I knew it was something like that.

>>34828
sugoi banner

>Books still aren't in yet, need 2 of them out of my 3 out of 4 classes so far
>Go to bookstore to check in for the heck of it
>sorry nope buddy they still aren't in, we have to package everything together even if only one book is missing
>decide to browse the bookstore
>go to graphic novels section
Oh hey, walking dead, some other cool stuff and
>shelf full of naruto, one piece, some gay yaoi looking stuff, etc
NOPENOPENOPENOPE
>Check out science fiction section
>find some d&d stories
>find some 4e books
>next to 4e is the pathfinder beginner set
i dont even

>>34847

one piece is gud nub

>>34848
wat, does joji like one piece

>>34849

Yup it's gud ne.

>>34828
I thought it was interesting.

Hey guys, are there any rules you have to follow for gameboards or does the game master just make them all?

>>34852
Greetings Ange-Beatrice, welcome to /seacats/

Hmmm, are there are rules; I really don't think so. But I suppose it really depends on what you are asking specifically.

>>34853

Hey.

Anything really. Just asking if there is anything game masters have to do. Like... knox rules? Or maybe some other rules you guys have.

I saw Witch in Gold made a game that doesn't have knox or dine but that was because there was no detective. If I have a detective do I need those rules? And what does it mean to have a detective?(sorry, I know Erika is a detective in Chiru but I've only read 1-4).

>>34850
do you watch the anime and/or read the manga!?

No set rules for it, really. Whether you use Knox and Van Dine is up to you, though mind that you play against someone. If you can't guarantee the game is fair, it might be difficult to get opponents. (Then again, people even challenge Lion's "gameboards", and they're just "Someone died. Okay, go guess.")

>>34852
Who are you again?

>>34856

Huh. Sounds like I should avoid doing that? Even if there aren't any set rules, any advice? How should it be made fair?

Also, welcome, Ange-Beatrice!

>>34857

Just ANGE Beatrice. I don't have any other names right now, but her sprite set kinda sucks so I might change.

I'm open to suggestions.

>>34858
Obviously one should be able to come to the conclusion of the mystery without grasping at straws.

Hey Rosa. How is it coming with chapter 1?

It seems I sent Genji chapter 2, so to be fair,

I'll be sending out chapter 2 to everyone who got chapter 1. Just tell me if you got it or, if you are just interested in it, I'll send you guys the prologue. Anyone is welcome to read it at this point. Just tell me if it's interesting or not.

>>34861

Undead? You can call that magic if you ask me.

Naturally there shouldn't be magic in a game. I know at least that much. Even if Beatrice would protest~

>>34859

Thanks for the welcome.

>>34854
Well, in short; not really.

We have had games that follow knox and dine, and games that do not. I think it is more of a personal preference of the GM if the game will follow those or not.

I would say that no a game does not need a 'detective', but it is nice to have one. What I would considered the 'detective' would be a piece that is confirmed the players can trust, and know that they are not helping the culprit (well at least not knowingly) And in the end it is normally the piece that makes it to the end and solves things/dies trying. It is basically a piece that tries to figure things out and the players us, know they can trust. We know they are not assisting the culprit/s. But I guess that is incorrect, for without dine or knox, the culprit could be the 'detective' or the 'detective' could be helping. So I would suggest that if you don't use those rules, and use a detective at least confirm for the players that this character is innocent and can be trusted to some extent.

If we had a rule, I guess it would be to avoid logic errors. Which if you don't know what they are, are when reds either conflict with each other, or when a red someone forbids the answer.

examples for the 1st would be. This apple I'm holding is only red.

This apple I'm holding is black.

The two reds conflict with each other, creating confusion on what can be trusted.

The second would be, say the answer is the culprit left through the window. And a red like this was used: Nothing in the room was used to assist the culprit.

This red makes us think that nothing in the room helped the culprit, but the answer says the window is how the culprit help the room. This red completely throws the players off the path of reaching the answer.

Well those are some of my thoughts on the matter.

>>34865

Ah. So that's a logic error in Umineko terms. I've heard the term but didn't know what it was.

Red is supposed to be true, so I know it can't contradict itself. I see a way around the first one if you changed the apple between saying it....but I get the picture. So thanks.

>>34862
Chapter 2 already, huh? Naturally, just send it out to me whenever you get the chance.

>>34867
Actually, I have 3 chapters done so far, but I like to stay ahead of myself. Working on chapter 4 right now.

I'll send it to you perhaps tonight.

>>34868
Of course, I've been interested from the start. To see my own eccentricities played up from an outside perspective should make for a fun read at the very least, and I quite like comparing my own writing style with that of other people anyway.

>>34866
There are ways around both of them. But for example as you said, it works if I switched which apple I was holding. But why would anyone think I switched apples? Or maybe I'm holding both apples, just switching which one I'm describing? These are unfair to the person/people you are playing against and is nothing more than a cheap trick.

>>34862
Well, I'm about halfway through it right now. And I'm still interested. I can't promise you I'll get through chapter 1 this week though, since I've gotten super busy trying to finish my assignment by the end of the month,(That is it needs to arrive their by the end of the month, so I really only have 6-7 days actually) Once I finish it, I'll finish reading chapter 1, and then I would love to read chapter 2, and so on.

>>34869
Chapter 1 didn't have you in it. But I think chapter 2 introduced your character.

How did you know about your character?

>>34870

Really? I can't see a way around the second one. But then I already know I'm not very good at playing this sort of thing. What I've heard in Umineko spoilers I never saw coming.

>>34868
>>34869

Is he writing a story about you?

>>34862
I-I'm interested

>>34871
You told me before, didn't you? Two or three times, I think. You mentioned his introduction in Chapter 2 and I've been interested to read it since.

>>34872
Well, something like that, I guess.

>>34872
You have to be careful of your wording to avoid logic errors like that ne.

>>34873
Sure. Just give me your e-mail address and I'll send you the prologue.

>>34874
Ah, well, I think I remember it now.
In any case, I think you'll like chapter 2 since it has your character.

>>34873
Oh, I see your e-mail now. I'll send it later for you.

>>34874

Interesting...

>>34875

That makes me think, you could even typo a logic error. Do logic errors happen often or....?

>>34878
I wouldn't say they happen often, but they do happen. More often then not, on something pointless. (At least in my case, the times I've had logic errors are always on stupid things that have nothing to do with the answer whatsoever.) Also more often then not, we understand typos do happen and we aren't exactly quick to judge and throw out the 'this game is unfair! Throw into the fire! FIRE! FIRE!' We are relatively understanding.

>>34870
Okay, sounds good. You don't have to finish right away. Just don't take like, 6 months to do so or something. Go at your own pace.

>Skyrim MLP: Fluttershy mod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WCP9Jn2Q0cQ

Oh man that was funny.

>>34881
Quality models.

>>34881

......... Switching to Eva for now

Alright Guest, Cirno. The documents have been sent!

>>34884
Package received, cap'n.

>>34883
...Oh wow, it actually worked. I'm a little surprised, but that's a good thing.

Welcome to /seacats/, and I'm glad you finished reading my 4th game and picked the "right" choice in the end! Please enjoy your stay!~

whers ryuk

>>34885
Remember to give feedback~

>>34886
You though. Get on reading chapter 1. And give Feedback on it.

>>34858
I agree with lili. Guessing gets extremely tedious. Knox and Van Dine are call crutches by some, but were intended by the creators to be the essential standards that a mystery novel should follow. Evidently, if there are no hints towards the mystery then it just becomes a challenge to list how many tricks could work. In fact, it would be better to liken such a game to a test of divergent thinking, rather than a battle of wits such as a detective novel. Of course that is not to say that these games are all trite. Some can be quite engaging.

Anyway, as Rosa has been saying. Without trust between the players and the opponents there is no game.

Along with others, Dine and Knox both share two important rules; that essentially the means of solving the mystery must be apparent and that there must be a detective. By using them in a game it is simply telling the readers that 'this mystery is fair' and or at least what we consider to be "fair". The detective culprit solution has been used way to much and if it is played well enough it can make the reader feel cheated. There is no need to use Knox or Dine to make a game, it just helps the mystery to seem more palatable to others.

>>34890
To compound on that, the Knox and Van Dine rules basically guarantee that "the reader can solve this mystery at equal terms with the canonical solvers of the mystery, due to being presented the same evidence duly". It also means that the mystery is solvable with what has been presented.

If you take Beatrice's game in /gameboard/, for example, it declares that there is no detective and no Knox/Van Dine. Consequently, the first twilight had to be solved by a combination of wild guesses and attempting to construe the same idea the writer had. This is less exciting than knowing the solution was staring you in the face all along.

Mysteries are at their finest when they can be solved. The entire appeal of a mystery is that it can be solved.

Gud mrning.

>>34892
Καλημέρα!

>>34892
Hi Rooga.

>Lion's guezs games
I felt a great stake coming from my chest.......

ANYWAY, welcome to seacats Ange-Beatrice.....sadly Ange is taken and you must choise another one, Gaap , Clair and Siesta 00 are free~