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".........Thank you...
......Liar......
...Goodbye......
And.........
...Sorry.

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Goodbye! If you see the real Beato in hell, send her back this way, thanks~
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>>69863
But she was the real Beato.
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>>69864
Not buying it~
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>>69863
If anything, EP1-4 Beato was the one who wasn't real.
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>>69866
Episode 1-4 Beato is more "real" as in she is a more fully realized character. She's actually entertaining and interesting.

The core arcs Beatrice may be the one that really existed, canonically, but unfortunately her character is pathetically weak. Not to mention boring. There's a reason she doesn't even have her own TIPs entry in episode 8.
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>>69867
Well, it's all a matter of opinions. I'm sure that if I were to try and argue with you on this, we'd just end up on that same argument of "evil for evil's sake" villains versus sympathetic ones, so there probably isn't much point. I personally find Yasu/Beatrice the most interesting character in the series, and she's really what makes Umineko for me.

Also, just for the record...there were way too many meta-characters in that episode to fit on one TIPS screen, so almost everyone was lumped in with someone else there. If anything, you should feel sorry for poor Sakutaro who didn't even get a profile.
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>>69863
>>69865
ok thats rather ironic, anyway good night
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>>69868
Sakutarou didn't get a profile because he was reduced the existence of just being "Maria's soft toy". Not a character in himself, merely an extension of hers. He's basically just demeaned to the level of a device that Ange uses to communicate with post-trauma Battler.

He was never really the same character in the core arcs. He died in episode 4. Even though he was "revived" by Ange, it's not the same character.
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>>69870
I wasn't really talking about the Sakutaro that Ange 'revived' in the epilogue. It's just that Maria's Sakutaro did appear along with all the other fantasy creatures at the party, and was occasionally mentioned in the big fight scenes that followed, but he was the only one that didn't get a spot on the TIPS screen.

And, well, most of the meta-characters aren't exactly 'characters' so much as concepts by that point.
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>> No. 69873 edit
I'm liking these umineko threads on this umineko board
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>>69868

The problem is that there were elements of ep1-4 Beato that just sort of... aren't there anymore in Chiru. But they should be. There's a lot of unresolved sexual tension, a lot of anger, a lot of other things that just don't resonate as well with the sad sack Yasu we're presented with later. All of these things are supposed to be an essential part of Beatrice, and consequently all of those things should be in Yasu as well, even if they're projected out and punched up as part of her fantasies.

Yasu's a prankster at times, but does she have the same edge Beatrice has of being potentially dangerous? She loves, but is she outright possessive? She's hurt and bitter, but only really shown outright angry once. Where's all that fire that Kanon and Beato had? Just because she's not vengeful doesn't mean she can't be pissed!

These elements would've made her a more plausible culprit, instead of so transparently unbelievable as a culprit that the very notion falls flat. I mean, she's redeemable as a character if she's not the culprit, but she's a pathetic replacement for the ep1-4 incarnation who is a genuinely interesting and complicated person.

Kinda sad that the fantasy is more real than the reality.
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>>69873
Shows how good your taste in things are, then.

Looks like I'm going to the anime expo in LA with Choco, so whoever goes will end up meeting me. And to tease you guys I'll wear a cosplay with a mask.
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I... I have raped my savings. Forced my will unto it and then tossed it aside like a sobbing wreck of a whore after she's nearly been cleaved in twain by an Excalibur.

But I now have a HD widescreen monitor, a new dresser, a new bookcase, a new desk, a new bed and a new TV.
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>>69873
Hi who are you
>>69876
Alright, have fun then.
>>69877
>bought so many stuff with only savings
If I were to spend my savings right now I would be able to buy a hot meal, yeah, not my best days.
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hi im tired
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>>69879
hey those are my usual lines
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>>69880
Weren't you rather busy being drunk yesterday ? Naughty anon, take care ok.
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>>69881
I was drunk two days ago ok, I only had a hangover.
Anyway I could help myself with a breakfast, want some?
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>>69882
Fine with me. It's dinner time here but I couldn't care less. What do mehicans eat for breakfast ?
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>>69877

horrifying
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>>69883
It probably depends of the area, some people might actually prepare Mexican dishes, but personally we usually eat stuff like eggs or etc.
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>>69885
I like mehican food. Screw breakfast give me everything mehican there is to eat.
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>>69886

That's just tacos.
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>>69887
>>69886
We eat tacos in many different ways, though.
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>>69875
Well, as you said, most of those traits are more things that Yasu would LIKE to be than what she actually IS. It seems pretty natural to me that the real Yasu is radically different from the confident, cackling witch that she imagined herself as. Well, there wouldn't be any need to imagine such attributes if she already had them anyway.

And I'd say that Chiru Beatrice certainly is 'possessive' of Battler, at least at the end of EP6 and in EP8. And that she's never angry is debatable as well; it seems to me that she has more of a cold and very much internalised anger at the world. Just because she doesn't usually express her true anger (as she doesn't generally express her true self in general, hiding behind various fantasies) certainly doesn't mean it isn't there; the scene where she yells at Genji and Nanjo in the EP7 tea party demonstrate that quite powerfully, and many of Clair's lines have a remarkably bitter quality to them. "I hate...everything" comes to mind.

In a way, one could even say that the Rokkenjima Incident is the final tragic explosion of the anger that Yasu had been keeping so deep inside herself for all that time. There is more to it than that, but I think her (probably quite unjustified, but no less powerful for that) anger at the world is possibly the root cause.
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>>69887
>>69888
What's this about tacos?
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>>69889
The problem with the Beatrice we see in EP6 and EP8 is that there's no real way to know if she's being characterized by Yasu or anything. From the feel EP7 gives about Beatrice's dead, one could imply that Beatrice that we are shown is nothing but an delusion created by Battler to stop feeling guilty and lonely.

Personally I don't dislike Yasu's character, but I'm saying we barely ever see anything about the real her.
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Someone should bring back /theories/, or /theories and intepretation/. I'm sick of all this fake Beato vs true Beato stuff getting in the way of me asking people how their day was.

Also add /george/ for characterization*.
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>>69892
Don't look at me, I'm not doing it.
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>>69892
Is that so? I haven't seen you asking anyone how was their day in a while.
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>>69893
And why not? As it stands we do not currently have a board for discussing umineko. It just sometimes happens to get discussed in the general discussion board.

>>69894
How was your day?
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>>69895
Don't be silly, my day hasn't even started yet.
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Dat horrible feeling when everything is NOT altight
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>>69884
>>69878
I also bought my brother a new computer, and now I have enough left to get myself a 3DS.
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>>69896
You see? And if nobody can be bothered to do it, then make me an account, send me the details and I'll do it myself.
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>>69898
I hope you'll forgive my bragging a bit, I feel anxious over spending that much money and need to feel better about it.
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>>69898
It must be nice be first world master race.
>>69899
I'll ask them later if they like the idea, but don't worry, I can do it myself.
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>>69900
I could probably live for many years on that money.
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>>69901
So you have to ask "those people"? I guess it can't be helped.
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>>69900
Personally I don't mind, just a little jelly.
>>69897
What's the matter, tacoman?
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>>69897

go tight shoutai fumei no showtime
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>>69901
I don't think George will mind, anon, so please oblige that person and just create that board.
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>>69906
Astaroth said ok, just waiting reply from Rin and Joji.
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>>69892
I would vote yay for this.
You could even move some of the more prevalent conversations on teaparty to there.
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>>69907

ya go ahead
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>>69905
>offline meeto
You're doing it wrong.
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>>69909
>implying you are still in charge
Silly Joji, you are sudeni usurped.
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What the hell's happening again. It's like Umineko discussions get moved even in an umineko board. Poor thing. Do as you wish, I doubt it'll have much discussion though.
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>>69911

D:

>>69912

It wouldn't be an exaggeration to call me the leader of all umineko fans worldwide tabunne.
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>>69909
More like permission, is to see if they are okay with it.
>>69912
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>>69913
It is mainly because you can't view them easily in the mess that is teaparty.
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>>69913
Original seacats had a /theories/ board as well, so this is nothing strange at all. If anything, separating it from /teaparty/ might promove for random lurkers to post.
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>>69908
Just leave them here and let people use the new board if they want to.

>>69913
We used to have a /theories/ board you know. In fact it used to be pretty much the only board.

I just want to be able to discuss people's days without people to be able to discuss Umineko without having to wade through stuff about people's days.
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>>69919
>>69916
>>69918
I guess it sorta makes sense then. Well, we'll see whether or not it reveals to be of any use anyway so I'm not against it. Plus talking umineko can be good.
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>>69904
mostly I feel like my live is like a tetris game, you solve some blocks, and then you have to clear more blocks at the instant...sigh.
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>>69921
tfwngf
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>>69876
I rabu meta~
You should cosplay Butler, and I'll cosplay Gilligan.

>>69892
I've been requesting a /theories/ board since the new site was up.

>>69899
>dat tarot card
Not sure if I should use it or not...
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>>69923
So why do you keep posting that?

What bet did you lose?
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>>69923
Could you be putting tarot cards in your VN for some kind of mini-game, perhaps?
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>>69922
meh, it was something necessary for the sake of both, but that one isnt one of my current problems~

I am not complaining about the problems, they are things I can solve, but I am suprised at the pace they are appearing.
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>>69924
https://archive.seacats.net/gameboard/res/8899.html#i8899

>>69925
Perhaps~
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>>69926
tfwnbf
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>>69923
Was thinking Jacket from Hotline Miami.
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I'll cosplay butler instead
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>>69928
I Prefer to leave it like that hahahaha
>> No. 69932 edit
Finding clothing identical to Butler is rather annoying~
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>>69932
How? Do you even cosplay?
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>>69929
Pffft.

>>69933
>dat old version
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>>69934
>alchemist
That makes it even easier. But the one I really want to cosplay is Meta, not Butler.
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hi
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>>69933
I don't even wear a fedora, it was more for an iconic image thing. If I was still on the project, I'd have a "press" ticket sticking out of the side of it. Goes well with the cliche journalist image from the early 40s.
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>>69937
>I'd have a "press" ticket sticking out of the side of it.
I've had a feeling I've thought the same thing myself.
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>>69934
Wow that bg filter does look a lot better than the old one.
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>>69938
I have one, but it's mostly for display purposes. Sorta a collector's item. Frank Sinatra's styled fedora, not one of those diamond shaped hipster fedoras.
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>>69940
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>>69876
As much as I would like to "meet" you, unfortunately, this will be the year I most likely won't be going to LA this year unless the officer's academy let's me loose earlier on.
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>>69937
>doesn't actually wear a fedora
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>>69941
Frank Sinatra was a great singer.

>>69942
Oh how fate plays out, right?
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>>69935
>Alchemist sprites
You'll enjoy my secret project then.

>>69937
Maybe next game.

>>69939
Yeah, I think it's much better too.
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>>69943
>actually wears a fedora
>and a trenchcoat
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>>69943
>Wearing a fedora in real life
>2013
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>>69943
Hats mess up my hair, it's apart of my style. That and only hipsters wear fedoras now. You also go to Starbucks to write your novel on a Mac?

>>69945
If that's in reference to me working on EP2, then I'll have to say no.
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>>69944
Do you remember the time you posted yourself singing?

>>69945
I'll enjoy, or you'll enjoy watching me not enjoy?
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>>69946
It gets cold in winter, okay?
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>wearing a fedora
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>>69944
Fate has nothing to do with it.
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>offline meet
>Breaking illusion
also
>not glorious Choco-imouto-tan sprites on Kinjo's Novel
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>>69953
>posting mlp images
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>>69947
>Pinkie pie
>Spaguetti

OH GOD
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>>69949
The latter.
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>>69953
>being lion
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>>69949
I remember, pretty embarrassing.

>>69952
So officer's academy huh? As in the popo or military?
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>>69956
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>>69956
When I see that picture, Back to the Future runs in my mind.

>>69958
Do you really want to know, or are you just killing time again?
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>>69960
Well, if I didn't want to know I wouldn't be asking, that and even if I was killing time it doesn't mean I don't want to know. I'm already killing time by watching Burn Notice and playing my 3ds.
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>>69958
Don't worry, I didn't listen to it.
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>>69956
Did you look at that thing yet?
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>>69963
I am now.
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