>>54904
I learned how to draw dragon and angel wings, and their structure. Also Eros and Thanatos the concepts, not the Greek figures.

I learned not to talk with people.

>>54909
talking with people is always a bad idea you did well

i also learned about this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokushinbutsu its pretty damn cool

>>54904
I learned that the sun is hot, a fact I'd obviously forgotten when I decided to wear a black shirt this morning.

>>54903
I'm pretty sure the entertainment adviser is immortal.

>>54911
Hey there Genji, last time you decided to appear as soon I banished. Pretty fickle of you.

>>54909
Why is talking bad? Do you like typing more?

>>54911
Hello Genji. I hope you are doing well, and now keeping cool after making an apparel mistake.

>>54912
How is anon?

>>54904
I learned that I need to get a clue, and discover Trade~

>>54911
Well, he is The King~

>>54912
Haha, sorry, sorry. I didn't plan it, I swear. Are you really so suspicious of me, dear anon? Anyway, I hope you've been doing well lately; i'm sure you'd probably scoff at my miserable tolerance to this weather. It's only low 90's, but when you're not used to those temperatures it really is suffering, especially when it's for days on end. Heh, I suppose you'd only consider that moderately hot, wouldn't you?

>>54904
I learned I'm avoiding peoples and learned that we're gonna get on Mars in 3 days. And that I'm awesome, but I already knew that.

>>54903
It's bad I can't get into the earlier Civ games, think they really were what I had in head when I bought CiV.

>>54915
>moderately hot
Cirno wouldn't let me lie. At summer 90F would be a miracle. It would be the day all the kids take their bikes and go out and play. It would make businessman to stop and take a rest under a tree. Cats would bark and dogs would meow. Genji, you and your people don't know what real pain is.

>>54916
In a lot of ways I think Civilization 4 (Beyond the Sword) is the pinnacle of the series. I still like Civilization 5 a lot as of the Gods and Kings expansion, and there are some things CiV does better, but overall I think Civilization 4 took the mechanics of the previous games and implemented most of them in their best possible form--while introducing some fun new mechanics to play around with~

CiV is easier for people to get into, though~ Civilization 4 has so many mechanics that the game doesn't really explain via a tutorial or whatever, so you pretty much have to go online and read references to really understand what's going on, unless you have the patience to read the Civilopedia AND are already familiar with past games~

In particular, the commerce system is something I really wish would come back. I think CiV is kind of lazy in making gold a tile yield in place of commerce, and it pretty much necessitated bringing back building maintenance, which causes issues of its own (which is why it was removed in Civ4!). Plus they had to tie science directly to population, another move I don't like. I found cottages and the commerce system in Civ4 to be fun to manage, and it was removed in Civ5~

Another thing is one unit per tile. I know a lot of people like it~ And it certainly places more emphasis on the tactical side of Civilization, where positioning and movement become much more important. And yet, Civilization is a strategy game, not a tactics game. I'm not so sure being able to hold off vastly superior numbers at a choke point is a good thing in a strategy game--shouldn't the player who manages their empire the most strategically in the long term, setting up a superior army and successfully executing a surprise attack, be the one that wins? I think one unit per tile decreased the rewards for people who play strategically and increased the rewards for those who play tactically, which I'm not certain is a great move in a strategy game~ With that said, one-unit-per-tile combat can be pretty fun, though I'm less thrilled with the headaches that come from moving units around (I still think non-combat units should be able to stack more)~

>>54917
Believe me, i'm all too grateful that I don't have to suffer temperatures like that. Though, I suppose you probably wouldn't survive the frozen, arctic hell that is my winter either, so maybe we're even.

>>54918
I see, I do have Civ 3 and 4, and I really have trouble getting into it, I think the main reason is because of the crappy GUI, the lack of explanation may be another thing, CiV tutorial was really simple but worked really well. The lack of hexagonial tiles is also weird for me.
Dunno about the military system, the CiV one kinda makes think of the ones in the advance wars series, also with some slight differences, and, at least on paper, it seems better than a system of single super units, but again, I didn't play the others Civ through so ~
Hope you'll teach me one day.

>>54919
Yeah, 60F is probably kinda cold already for us, so your so called artic hell would easily kill me.

>>54920
"Single super units?" Nah, past Civ games usually had even more units than CiV--it's just the optimal strategy was often to group them all onto one tile, because when a "stack" of units was attacked, the strongest unit would always defend. Civ4 also employed a sort of "rock paper scissors" type of unit combat, where, for example, Axemen beats Spearmen, Chariot beats Axemen, Spearmen beats Chariot~ This increased the power of the stack. Civ4 had the "siege" units contain a secondary function: collateral damage, or "stack-killers," which would damage multiple units when they attacked a stack~

There are mods to improve the UI for Civilization IV. I recommend the "BUG" mod myself~ http://civ4bug.sourceforge.net/BUGMod.html

I don't recommend bothering with Civ3 when Civ4 is available~

>>3144
This is my old Civ4 advice thread~ You can also check the Civ5 thread for some of the major differences between 5 and 4~

>>54915
>>54917
>90°F
>[not even] moderately hot
I'd already be a melted puddle on the ground by now, that's almost as hot as the hottest temperature ever recorded in Scotland. It's been consistently 18~20°C (64.4~68°F) for the past few weeks over here and everyone is dying from the heat already because we're all so used to the rain and cold.
I think you guys would turn into icicles with one of our winters. 5°C (41°F) at the warmest and usually below 0°C (32°F) for days at a time.

>>54922
Well, I can't say I get all of this advice, I should probably try to play a proper cIV game before. Don't feel like it right now though. Still thank you.

Guys.

Guys.

The magic TV box told me I could play the hottest Nintendo 64 games for only seven dollars an hour. The hottest Nintendo 64 games straight through the TV box!

>>54925
Alright, what did you drink or smoke exactly ?

>>54926
Nothing. Which might be why I'm starving.

Also, magic TV box can play music for a nominal fee.

>>54923
It's strange, because I honestly don't mind 80°F at all, but if you add just ten measly degrees to that, I fall apart right away.

I think your concept of my use of the term "arctic hell" is a bit distorted though, Smithy; 32°F in winter isn't bad at all. In fact, if the thermometer hovered around there, even with a margin of 10 degrees or so, i'd be quite the happy camper indeed. It isn't uncommon for temperatures in the winter here to hold around 0-10°F for weeks, and days below 10°F are hardly uncommon, much to my dismay. I'm kind of inured to it at this point, but I still don't like it when it gets that cold. Of course, i'm sure even i'm a lightweight compared to the Canadian conqueror Ozaki.

>>54928
>max temp 5c
I would hide myself in a massive fort filled of tequila and enough wood to survive the winter.

>>54924
Oh, and let me add that I love the BUG mod for CIV. BUG stands for "Better Unaltered Gameplay." In other words, the BUG does not actually change the amount of information you have access to, it just makes it more accessible~ For example, the great person tracker at the top of the screen tells you exactly how many turns until your next great person, and in what city it will appear~ Normally, to get that kind of information, you'd have to check the great person progress bar in every single city individually~

>>54930

That's too easy. In a real civilization you'd need reports from every individual city and residential area, which could take months to put together.

>>54928
Even among friends I'm considered more "Canadian" because of my resistance to cold. I tend to wear a t-shirt at -15C. Of course the same can't be said for the heat.

>>54932
Such a strong Canadian.

>>54931
And at the start of the game, each turn takes a hundred years or so, and even at the very end, each turn represents 6 months time~ And yet I don't think anyone wants me to pore over the charts and graphs for 6 months, much less myself~

>>54935

Maybe you'd be busy enough to reduce your warmongering!

>>54933
How is that picture even related?

>>54936
Says the person who declared war on me in an unprovoked assault last game~

>>54937
Did you read the filename?

>>54939
Ah, makes perfect sense now.

>>54938

It was very provoked you Paris-swiper!

>>54941
Hey, don't go complaining there. I WAS the true victim in this case, warmongerings plotting brutes !

>>54941
I took Paris because I was the one who whittled it down with bombardment and eventually laid siege to it with a combined naval/ground force~ I don't think any of your units were even in range of it when it fell~

I should note that "the others" at that point was pretty much just Astaroth, and he was on the other continent and I'm not sure he even had a navy at that point~ Squitcher was all but eliminated, and the AI is perfectly complacent as long as you don't tick them off (not that Prince-level AI is gonna do anything to me at that point)~

>>54928
I was a bit thrown off when you said that it was “only” low 90s, so I thought you were just exaggerating with the “arctic hell” part. I wouldn't even mind our winter's “moderate cold” if not for the non-stop rain all year round (with the really bizarre exception of the last few weeks), because in winter that rain tends to turn to hail the size of marbles. No snow though, except for maybe a couple days in January and a week or so in April this year.

Cold as your winters are though, I can't help but wonder if you've ever had to camp out in a tent at those temperatures in the rain and hail, or go for weeks at a time without central heating when the temperature is at the lowest point it's been in years, or anything like that.
Of course, I have no doubt that if the temperature hit 10°F for longer than a week over here my heating would die on me and my house (read: century-old hovel held together with packing tape and superglue) would turn into an igloo.

>>54932
Now you, you could probably live in my fridge and complain that it's too warm.

>>54943
Hey, don't forgot my French Colony of Awesome, and Totally Paris, those were great cities. And I had my mighty ninja frigate. You just won because the frigate didn't arrive in time, consider yourself lucky ~

>>54943

You whittled it down, but my ground forces did virtually all of the work in attacking his army. I did have units in range too!

Plebs use Fahrenheit instead of Celsius.

>>54946
Ummm... nop. If Misha weren't there you certainly wouldn't have won. It would probably have ended in a tie or a slight win on my part.

>>54947
Agreed. Celsius is a much more logical scale of temperature than Fahrenheit, and inches/feet is just a completely stupid scale of measurement and there's a very good reason things like products in shops are measured as centimeters/meters instead of, for example, something like “59.0551181 inches”.

>>54947

Using celsius makes no sense. When you approach zero on fahrenheit it's the limit of human cold tolerance, and when you approach 100 it's the limit of human heat tolerance. Why should it be based on something like the freezing and boiling points of water, that's super arbitrary and saves you the trouble of remembering two numbers.

>>54950
>limit of human cold tolerance

>>54950
>approach 100 it's the limit of human heat tolerance
George always make me laugh.

>>54948

There were mountains you didn't even see half my units ok.

>>54949

I doubt anyone would mind enough about a twentieth of an inch to write that instead of just 59 ne.

>>54951
>>54952

Naturally the barely-humans that live in extremely hot or cold environments need not apply.

>>54953
is george seriously pumping an international system argument?

>>54955

If there was nothing to argue, then there would only be one system!

>>54946
I did lose virtually no units, I dunno what you mean~ My plan all along was to let you handle the ground battle while I executed an attack on the under-defended back-line by sea~

See, a march of my ground troops was pretty much out of the question due to the large amount of hills and mountains between us, forcing us towards choke points. You had super-long range longbows but I had no such units~ However, once my naval assault took a city, I did land a ground-based invasion force on the shores to assist in taking Paris~

>>54956
S-sorry, I can't quite read that~ Can't paste the text into google translate~