>>46014
No, that's stupid and you're stupid~

>>46016
;_;

>>46017
Sorry, you don't get to ;_; after you just called a good number of people I know and love "unworthy of time or love"~

>>46018
I have a feeling that you didn't know what I meant , ne.

>>46019
Your statement was pretty straight-forward, I don't see many ways it could be misinterpreted~

>>46020
For me , a lot!

For you , I don't know!

>Jeweler upgrades 3 flawed gems into 1 perfect gem for 2000 gold + 1 jewelcrafting page
>Check auction house, most perfect gems are like 100-1500 gold (rubies are most expensive at 1500~1600, rest are about a third of that)

Um... so basically, I shouldn't upgrade my gems ever~?

>>46015

>After she gives it to Kiritsugu, he implants in a dying Shirou at the end of the war to save his life by using the lingering prana left within it, and it has remained within him ever since that day.

It kept Shirou alive because it had leftover prana from Saber.

>Avalon’s power won't work if Saber's not connected to it. It's a different story during the Grail War, but all it does when Saber isn't around is make Shirou's magic attribute into "sword".

Avalon had no effect whatsoever in keeping Shirou alive after that point. Your conjecture about it keeping him alive before Rin found him is entirely unfounded, and moreover you shouldn't be able to comment on how strong a magic you'd need to keep him alive in that duration. For all you know, his body's own mana helped him stay alive.

>When he had truly started treating Hisau Maiya as his assistant, Kiritsugu had put a spell on a strand of her hair and embedded it in the subcutaneous tissue of his little finger. At the same time, Maiya had also embedded a strand of Kiritsugu’s hair in her finger. If the Magic Circuits of one of them entered a state of extreme stagnation—the stage at which one's life force was weak on the verge of impasse with death—the strand of hair given to the other person would burn, warning the other and notifying them of the existence of danger.

>Emiya Kiritsugu was very sensitive to the scent of Death. Perhaps it was because he had witnessed the deaths of others countless times. Death could not be seen, nor could it be heard. Nonetheless, he could still sense the silent descent of something unknown at the moment when life was waiting to disappear from the corporal body. The times when he felt the ‘joy’ of that thing were definitely times when he must watch, helplessly, someone else’s final moments, with their lives already beyond saving. Therefore, Kiritsugu felt despair and gave up the moment he stood in the silent underground storage. He would definitely be witnessing someone else’s death again at this place.

Kiritsugu was aware of Maiya's condition, and knew it was too late to save her. He didn't try because he knew it wouldn't work, yes.

I have a feeling that I need to attach a 6 paragraph long explanation to my previous post so no one would get the wrong idea but I'm too lazy so ;_; to me and everyone else who would take it wrong and go like "wat why would you think that" and then I would be like "bcuz etc." and then they would be like "o ok" and I would be like "wat ok" and then we're both like "ok".

>>46023
Those two paragraphs you included don't include anything about mystic artifacts that protect one from death~

Also, how is this conjecture? We KNOW that Saber doesn't need to be present for it to work, nor is a mana link needed. Kiritsugu specifically USED it for that purpose to save the dying kid-Shirou, as I already stated~ YOU are the one who is using conjecture, in defiance of evidence, that Avalon can't work without a link to Saber~ My basis that Shirou could not have survived that without Avalon is because HIS HEART WAS DESTROYED~ Any reasonable person would know that that kind of wound is typically an instant death~

Besides, if the "lingering prana from Saber" was enough to save kid-Shirou, then it sure as hell could have saved Maiya, given that Saber was still present at the time, so I think you just defeated yourself by bringing up that point~

So yes, there are still plenty of holes~

>>46024
I don't think there's any amount of explanation that could justify deeming people unworthy of time or love simply for using pet names~

Do you really want the answer? It's a bit of a spoiler.

>>46026
I could explain it by smoking weed , just like Snoop Dogg does.

Want me to demonstrate?

>>46027
You don't need to bother, I already know the answer is a writing error~

>>46029
Okay.

This explains everything.

>>46025

Those two paragraphs precede the scene where Maiya dies, and provide a reason why Kiritsugu wouldn't try to save her.

We do know that
>Avalon’s power won't work if Saber's not connected to it. It's a different story during the Grail War, but all it does when Saber isn't around is make Shirou's magic attribute into "sword".
>Avalon’s power won't work if Saber's not connected to it.
>Avalon’s power won't work if Saber's not connected to it.
Since that was said by Nasu directly. It still had some of Saber's power when it was used to help Shirou, since she died only very recently before that. By the way, Saber also needs to be nearby for Avalon to work properly, and she wasn't. Unlike in the case with Maiya, she did die nearby Avalon before it was implanted into Shirou, which may have had an effect.

Shirou's barely-survival had nothing to do with Avalon, and he would have died extremely soon afterwards if not for Rin's timely intervention. Magi are slightly harder to kill than normal humans, so his extended survival isn't impossible.

In fact, Shirou was wounded before Fate, to the point where Sakura had to come and help him out around the house. If Avalon had been in effect, one would assume that it would have healed that, rather than conveniently saving all of its power for a 'serious' injury.

To recap, the main idea is that Avalon only works if Saber's prana is present. Every example of its use or lack of use can be attributed to this.

1. Healed Iri in the forest after stabbed by Kotomine. Only actually healed her when Saber came to retrieve her.

2. Kept Iri capable of human action after she had taken in servants. Saber constantly in close proximity.

3. Was not used on Maiya. Kiritsugu had in possession for a long period of time away from Saber, and Saber was not present.

4. Was used on Shirou. Saber had very recently been in close proximity, so prana lingered in it.

5. Was not used when Shirou was stabbed. Saber wasn't even summoned, it was entirely impossible for it to have an effect.

Kiritsugu didn't know it could heal fatal wounds, that's all there is to it. You're overthinking things.

Since it had been sealed inside Kiritsugu’s body, who was Saber’s authentic Master, the sheath could obtain prana from Saber and exert its effect in full according to the contract.

Although Kiritsugu understood its ability, he had never confirmed it with his own eyes. Therefore, he did not expect the sheath to be able to heal fatal injuries.

>>46033

Well, that works too. It's consistent with the idea that Kiritsugu didn't try because he thought she couldn't be saved as well.

>>46032
>5. Was not used when Shirou was stabbed. Saber wasn't even summoned, it was entirely impossible for it to have an effect.

I don't really buy this, as it was strongly hinted at in Fate that he had external forces helping him out. Rin noted several odd things about the fact that Shirou was still alive at the time of the wound (lack of blood, still breathing, no instant death), and if it was just because he was a magi, she should've thought of that first (or at least had an ah-ha moment related to it later, when she discovers he is a magus). I just CRTL'd Fate up to that point to be sure I was remembering the text right, but yes, I am reasonably sure of the facts here~

Even if Nasu says it can't work without a link to Saber, then at the very least, I'd say that due to the command seal and the fact that the Grail War had begun that Shirou already had a link via the Grail~

>3. Was not used on Maiya. Kiritsugu had in possession for a long period of time away from Saber, and Saber was not present.

Define "long time." It was, like, the same day, right~ I still don't believe that Avalon could not have been used to save her~

>>46033
>>46034
And now we're back to my "he didn't even try" part~
>>46012
>And the point is, Kiritsugu didn't even try~ There's no way he could have known for sure it would not have worked! By all accounts, it should have worked, so stop trying to make excuses~

>>46036
You're right, he didn't try. But your question was "why didn't Kiritsugu give Avalon to Maiya" and I answered that.

>>46037
And thus my opinion that he is incompetent remains~

>>46038
Okay.

>Dislikes Fate series, so doesn't care about Kiritsugu issues

Anyway, I'm sending a image with gods and NPCs from a campaign setting known in Brazil as "Tormenta" (Torment).

"Tormenta" is the campaign setting most known in my country. It was created in 1999 in the pages of "Dragão Brasil" magazine and became pretty popular.

It was a nice campaign setting years ago, now it became more close from a Forgotten Realms clone. Sad.

>>46040
Hey, do BR police have armor that can take like 10 bullets and they'll still get up?

Oh boy, I can't look at sunday seacats without watching Fate/Zero first, can I? Well it wasn't such a terrible spoiler, anyways:

>And Maiya could not have been hurt that badly, considering that she survived the wounds for a very long time~
As soon Kirisugi told her "your task is over" she died, so one could say she was alive barely out of strenght of will. Her injuries were quite bad. And for the second point;

Irisviel just gave it to Kiritsugi, and she's quite weak, she wants Kiritsugi to win pretty badly. Giving Avalon to Maiya would probably mean no Avalon for the rest of the war. A cold decision, but not "lol incompetent".

>>46042
My my from now things will be interesting~

>>46042
>Giving Avalon to Maiya would probably mean no Avalon for the rest of the war.
Probably not true, Irisviel healed fairly quickly with Avalon's effects~ Presumably the only reason kid-Shirou was under for so long was because Saber wasn't around to provide additional mana~

Look, cake already said the reason given in the story, and all it means is that Kiritsugu didn't even think to try giving Avalon to Maiya because he didn't think it could heal fatal injuries~ Now, why he didn't consider that a legendary magical artifact that protects people from death might allow for the healing of fatal wounds is anyone's guess~

>>46044
Pretty fast, with Saber near of course. And considering Irisvel just got kidnaped that would be until they finish this fight. And if I remember correctly Kiritsugi was trying to hide the fact they have Avalon with them.

The reason in the story sounds bad, though.

>>46045
Well, Avalon was completely charged with mana because Kiritsugu was holding it as the contract bearer~ It should not have been a problem to use its healing on Maiya~

>>46044

To be fair, the legendary Avalon only had the ability to stop bleeding.

>>46047
Also, Even if Kiritsugu wanted to give Avalon to Maiya, I am pretty sure she would have refused and would have accepted her death.

>>46047
I don't think Alexander the Great rode around on a flying chariot either, but it happened right before his eyes~

>>46048
That'd be awfully silly if it happened right after Iri and Maiya discussed her future~

>>46046
I see, I don´t understand this very much. I would still have been weird to be like "Oh you´re healed? Give it back".
>>46047
Or a island, or a place, or something.
>>46048
I though of that too, but he could have probably forced it anyways.
>>46049
But talking about your future it´s the worse dead flag ever!

>>46049
well, she was prepared for her death, Rin,so its still a possibility.

>>46049

Unlike Avalon healing, yes.

Summer is coming. . .

Are you afraid?

>>46053
I am not going to be here starting June and for two months
So I am not afraid of 13-years-old

>>46053
I'm not afraid of summer. Summer is afraid of me.

>>46053
Summer is already here, really!

>>46056
Anon, its always summer where you live~

>>46057
43 C degrees or so today.
Also, are you guys seeing the eclipse? I wish my shades were a bit darker.

>>46059
gotta make haste

>>46060
>outof100nobles99wereimpressed

>>46061
I remember playing that part a lot.

>>46062
>jump rope

>>46061
I will find him.

I will find him, and make him pay.

>>46041
I don't know about thar armour, but our BR urban troops are so terrifying as the bandits.

Like BOPE ("Battalion of Special Operations"), who is extremely vicious against bandits AND civilians.

A movie called "Tropa de Elite" (The Elite Squad), shows a bit of their violence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batalh%C3%A3o_de_Opera%C3%A7%C3%B5es_Policiais_Especiais

>>46053
South Hemisphere. The Winter is coming, Lord Stark.

Love as large as brontosaurus
Passion like a bleeding walrus
Our love is real it's no mirage
Want to lock you in my garage


Climb upon my trusty steed
Later you will taste my seed
This heart of mine is yours to capture
From now until velocirapture