first

Second.

>>6989
purdy image

i kno rite

Also, I don't really get the comic in the thread.

>>6996
It's not meant to be anything in particular, except referencing the phrases "TPK," and "rocks fall, everyone dies." Those are semi-memes in traditional gaming.

>>6998
Well, I know those things, but in terms of the comic itself, it makes no sense. Why is the fat hamster attire wearing person holding the book (which I assume is the irc chat or whatever is used)? Why is he deciding that rocks fall? He most certainly is not the DM I think. That's why I said I don't get it

>>7001
>"What are you doing with the mountain?"
>"Total party kill."
>"Rocks fall and everyone dies."

He destroyed the mountain and everyone's dying in the ensuing chaos.

>>7002
There's still the how, the why, etc

At this point it is important for me to have everyone saying their movements. Something will happen soon (not necessarily an encounter, so precise positioning is not as important).

Come on people! Do stuff!

>>7003
>How?
Magic.

>Why?
Because else the other side was gonna kill the hamster guy.

>Etc
Etcetera.

inb4 there's traps that shoot from the walls you are climbing on

k Astaroth go stop gate, Voyee and Mehico can do panel, Hidei and George let's play card games

Alright, thievery check time. I got the tools that's +2. Who can make some aid another to help my roll?

>>7025
You're the only one trained in thievery.

In an anime I watched, there was a situation in which the protagonist was trapped in a locked room. The solution was to stick a shape-shifting sword between the door and its frame and have it transform into a mace.

>>7026
Aid another sucess with a 10, also bern have speak with spirits, right?

>>7029
>inb4 sariel magic weapon break

>>7030
Folka then, I suppose.

You can also aid another here using Dungeoneering, I'll allow that. There's no need for anyone to sit around doing nothing if you don't want to, you have a reasonable chance of success even without training on aid another.

>>7033
Well, most people doesn't seem like rolling if they don't get high bonuses. Anyways, the risk is worth it.

sorry i forgot as i sleeping i aid another tomorrow k

>>7031
There's that and it takes an hour to repair with the Swordmage feature. It's probably only a +2 situational bonus to a Str check anyway.

Waiting to see if the whatsits attack or not. Hope they ran back somewhere. I want to put my encounter bypass through extreme intimidation to use.

>>7046
ur ded

Well, if you wanna set up readied actions, try to do it before tomorrow. Wanna keep things moving.

I won't be posting much on seacats outside of here and til the end of parlor lately, maybe even streamchat. Anyway, i was just going to open the door anyway instead of being super cautious once most of the party seems prepared.

>Sureiya is not using Headman's Chop
Wait a second, where is my party with a lot of prone at will attacks?

The one without a readied action is on door duty.

>>7063
So, myn

>>7064
Torinn or Folka; idc what Myn does.

>>7068
Is it ok if I mention it before facing potential danger.

>>7070
Depends. "Potential danger" is a pretty broad category.

Our tank should probably take point, idk.

Bern has the light source, so to see more, she needs to move forward.

inb4 hydra

Crazy idea : somebody with good perception get on the tiger with Torinn and Rutger walks along wall over the water pool. Make perception check without fear of ambush. It's even immune to tremorsense since it's not on the same axis.

>>7085
what if they are ranged hydras or something? Anyways I already failed my perception check, to be able to do another the "circumstances" would need to check. Maybe ligtening that specific area?

>>7085
>climb walls
That's certainly not going to be me.

Sureiya, go for it.

>>7086
It spits acid, ne. As for circumstance, your new viewing angle should qualify.

forgot to put in spoilers, but i'm taking point like 2-3 squares behind torinn i guess

So there really is something in the water. How can we get the jump on it?

Mage Hand the Sunrod to the water, everyone prepare actions to go after Sariel Winged Hordes his junk, charge and stuff? We probably don't want to be in the water much but we need someone in there so I can waste my Vortex on it.

>>7092
Does anybody other than me have any lightning attacks?

>>7092
The main problem I see is that mage hand is limited to ranged 5, and a conjuration must stay within its range of you.

k, have the tiger approach the water solo

sorry guys, internet died because rain

Anon and Bern should roll Nature to check what the Hydra's information yields us.

Guess I might as well roll nature for hydra. Also, Rin, i mentioned about being 2-3 squares behind torinn wherever he goes lately, so can the map be updated for that, or did I have to make some specific sort of post thing (been busy)

>>7112
It wasn't that, it's just that you were going to follow Torinn, but the hydra moved as soon as Torinn finished his move so you didn't have time to follow. On the bright side you do have the first round in initiative so it should work out okay.

>>7115
Actually, I changed my mind. I'll move you up near Torinn.

>>7115
Ah, I thought I would have just been sort of semi following behind him up until the point where we're in combat now (or at least a couple squares more behind). Just thought I'd ask (partially because even with a movement technique, I'm too far away to attack it.)

>>7117
I'll count your movement as a readied action so it works out.

So, for future reference, when using my crane's wings move technique, total squares moved is my check result divided by 5 (rounded down)? So if I roll 15 (1+14), i'd move 3 squares, etc? I'll wait to see if bern/anon roll some sort of nature check (with an idea of powers) before officially starting my turn.

>>7120
Almost, you divide the result by 5 and then add 1 square to find your end space.

I still don't decide if I will execute my readied action, apparently the hydra has threatening reach.

>>7123
Well, I guess I should be glad I waited then.

>>7123
Also, if you did, my Open the Gate of Battle attack loses 2d10 damage I think. Anyway, once one of the party members relates the info to us about the Hydra, here's my possible plan for my turn. Move just outside of the threatening reach of the hydra, minor action item power (encounter) to shift 2 squares (and gain +1 ac and reflexes until end of next turn), then use Open the Gate of Battle (and hopefully hit.) Another final option would be Blurred STrike Ki focus' daily item power as well to gain +2 to all defenses til end of next turn but that seems kinda redundant.

>>7126
typo, meant 1d10

Hydra super powerful, the most simple plan to deal with hydra-kun it's probably weak + daze and spam attacks until it dies, since we dont have fire/acid attacks.

Since it's a multi-attacker, I believe reducing its damage will significantly weaken its ability to threaten us. Thus, I'm strongly considering spending my item daily power and my daily power to weaken it and tack on a -5 to attack rolls for good measure, making it significantly less scary for a round. Seizing an early advantage will probably turn the tide of the fight in our favor.

I've seen what damage resistance does to someone that relies on making several attacks per turn or per round, and it's not pretty.

What say you guys?

>>7131
Small mistake, it can regrow as many heads as it's missing on its turn.

>>7131
-5 to attack will only matter on the first hit of the heads, they remove those effect on the next one.

>>7133
Astaroth is actually saying it wrong, the -5 is to damage on Chilling Smite.

>>7131
>>7133
but yes, weaknening looks like a very good idea
>>7132
Wait what, then what it's the acid/fire damage for?

>>7135
I meant under the circumstances Astaroth was describing. Acid/fire does stop the regeneration, but destroying 2 heads in one round will just cause it to grow 4 new heads on its turn.

So do the hydra's attack AC mainly? Also, how does my turn plan look that i posted a moment ago

>>7137
As a brute, it probably does. But the "reflexible" spit probably doesn't.

>>7131
DR is a good idea, but those effects would probably be much more useful when the hydra can make more attacks at once. Personally, I think we should use limited resources during its more dangerous phase, so that it both ends as quickly as possible and becomes a lot less scary. Maybe when it's bloodied?

Also, I think weaken and -5 penalty should be done on separate rounds. Using both at once seems like overkill, and it just makes the round after they wear off much harder to heal through, since it'll save its action point for then.

I'm planning to use up either Lamb to the Slaughter or Vengeful Elementals here; it's probably Lamb to the Slaughter, unless it misses.

>>7139
Wouldn't Lamb to the Slaughter just cause us to provoke a few attacks from it though?

Also, unless there's any objections, i'll start typing up my turn and whatnot

>>7140
Right, daze, no OAs etc.

>>7139
What do you think about starting my turn using full damage? Or should I wait until it becomes bloodied?

Jeez, even hit me with 26 ac/23 reflex huh, oh well, it's not that bad I guess. still a lot of damage though.

This is the one thing Righteous Radiance can do that Divine Challenge can't (besides controlling mobility and being on at all times) : punish every out of turn attack made by the same enemy. The bane of solos everywhere.

>>7146
It rolled very high on its second attack. A 17 on the d20 I believe.

>>7147
I wonder if it can help me survive this round!

>>7150
Well that's what leaders are for.

>>7151
Also, I would like to request that the Elemental Spirit be brought around to protect Sureiya since he's the most fragile target.

>>7152
>manly ranger half orc using two giant blades has less AC than a gay warlock and the shaman who read her way into warlord.

>already at -84 HP
Alpha strike good.

>>7155
Not bad at all for 2 turns and no dailies used!

But that beast still dealt 43 hit points of damage against me, and he failed twice!

>>7157
Which is why damage reduction is a big big deal.

Remember that your tiger can attack things that move next to it.

>>7159
This turn he used his immediate action on shield of devotion instead. While it's a good power, he does have some competition for his immediate actions.

I thought its spit gave ongoing poison damage.

>>7131
Didn't Sureiya's info block say that the penalties only count for the first attack it makes, and then the other heads don't get the penalties?


Also this might be interesting: my level 5 daily does 2d10 + 6 fire damage. It's against Fort, though, but if I can land a hit that means I halt the regeneration somewhat.

>>7162
>daily with fire damage
That's a godsend considering the actual situation, but I have no idea if the fire damage permanently deny a summon of a head or it's only for a round.

>>7163
I think just one head for just one round for ever 12 fire damage. It does halve damage on a miss so we should be able to do 12 fire damage with some luck, but I think it's better to just bumrush it hard when we can; either that, or lose a lotta surges.

>>7164
Well, it should have at least around 350hp, so I plan to burn daily, sohei flair and furious attack when we decide to nova finish it.

>>7161
The bite normally does not inflict ongoing poison damage, however it does when using hydra fury.

k swordmage shielding fire now or not

>>7171
Good question.

On the one hand, damage reduction and fire damage would probably be very helpful here.

On the other hand, it can only trigger once per round, while Righteous Radiance happens every single turn.

wat do

Well I am glad to see you actually weighing your options and not having a slam-dunk strategy here, even if the solo doesn't prove to be a life-or-death struggle.

>>7171
If it only stop the regeneration for a turn we could use it already.
>>7173
Isn't the problem that we overthink most of the time? Anyways I just noticed bern didn't heal me lol.

>>7174
She thought you'd live.

>>7175
live how much time? I mean I lost about 40 hp in a round and I'm poisoned lol

One thing I didn't mention in the knowledge check I probably should have:
The hydra's individual attack go up in damage potential as its number of heads decreases. With only 3 heads, hydra fury adds +5 damage to attack. With only 2 heads, hydra fury instead adds +2 attack and +10 damage to each attack. With only 1 head, the hydra gets the above bonus and can attack up to three creatures within range with the attack.

no feedback means i mayk executive decision

Alright, I put anon's character in the character builder, and some things aren't adding up. With anon's current stat set, he still has 2 points left for a stat (I put it into dex, so he has 18 dex) and with that he gains one more AC, so 21 AC, same NADs as before.

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
level 6
Half-Orc, Ranger
Fighting Style: Two-Blade Fighting Style
Ranger: Prime Shot
Background: Amn (Amn Benefit)

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 19, Con 13, Dex 18, Int 10, Wis 13, Cha 8.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 16, Con 13, Dex 15, Int 10, Wis 13, Cha 8.


AC: 21 Fort: 19 Reflex: 19 Will: 15
HP: 55 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 14

TRAINED SKILLS
Nature +9, Stealth +11, Thievery +12, Dungeoneering +9, Perception +11, Athletics +11

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +7, Arcana +3, Bluff +2, Diplomacy +2, Endurance +5, Heal +4, History +3, Insight +6, Intimidate +4, Religion +3, Streetwise +3

FEATS
Level 1: Weapon Focus (Heavy Blade)
Level 2: Battle Awareness
Level 4: Weapon Proficiency (Bastard sword)
Feat User Choice: Master at Arms
Level 6: Two-Weapon Fighting

POWERS
Ranger at-will 1: Twin Strike
Ranger at-will 1: Marauder's Rush
Ranger encounter 1: Off-Hand Strike
Ranger daily 1: Jaws of the Wolf
Ranger utility 2: Invigorating Stride
Ranger encounter 3: Disruptive Strike
Ranger daily 5: Two-Wolf Pounce
Ranger utility 6: Leaf Wall

ITEMS
Predator's Hide Hide Armor +1, Farbond Spellblade Bastard sword +1, Harmony Blade Bastard sword +1, Gauntlets of Blood (heroic tier), Acrobat Boots (heroic tier), Badge of the Berserker +1, Belt of Vigor (heroic tier), Iron Armbands of Power (heroic tier)
RITUALS
Raise Beast Companion
====== Copy to Clipboard and Press the Import Button on the Summary Tab ======

>>7180
Also, as for scale as anon wanted, it's not really that feasible unless you sacrifice two feats (one to get chainmail to have the prerequisite for scale, then one for scale). One suggestion for next level to boost his defenses somehow, is drop weapon focus for some other feat. Also, I don't know how you wield your weapons, but Harmony Blade should be mainhand (I dunno if it's a bastard sword harmony blade) and farbond should be offhand, the reason why is, see the crit effect for harmony blade, and see the property of harmony blade. It'll effectively give you +2 to all defenses(because the enemy takes a -2 to attack if trying to target you) when you hit with both weapons in the same turn (and with Twin Strike and your other powers, it's almost guaranteed). I forget what else I noticed

>>7181
Or just multiclass cleric. You need 15 wisdom for that, though.

>>7182
do I get the +2 ac if I multiclass cleric?

>>7183
A +2 shield bonus to AC, yes.

>>7184
that sounds quite tempting you know

lol anon as part cleric

>>7180
He's supposed to have 14 Wisdom.

>>7187
His sheet says 13

I'm delaying cause of Bern and some others not wanting 4 heads to regen if we do too much damage among other things. Also, probably going to drunken monkey it on my turn into attacking itself (and sliding it away from us then back into position for astaroth's tiger)

post ure delay lol

what i do, escape and what

>>7198
I think part of it involved invigorating stride, maybe after you attack or something

>>7196
delaying until after anon possibly*

Didn't I say in chat I was gonna Dimensional Vortex the Hydra on its turn. Can I still do that or what?

Oh I see, it missed with its melee on its turn. Then I'll just reduce the damage on Bern by 7, I guess, so as not to waste my Interrupt ne.

So, Shielding Fire this time or continue Winged Hoarding?

>>7215
It didn't hit with a single melee attack on its turn.

>>7217
obv trolling me so I can't use Dim Vort.

I'm on to your schemes.

Idea : use swordmage shielding fire to mark target, Torinn delays, hydra attacks and takes fire damage, Torinn uses dragon breath to put in new mark and it takes radiant damage for trying to hurt people

y/n?

I don't think using a daily solely for the fact it does Fire Damage is a great idea. I'm fine with just going for Winged Hordes, unless others agree that blowing Swordmage Shielding Fire just to deal Fire Damage is a good idea.

>>7221
Was just a thought. May as well winged horde or grasping shadows.

Forgot to add my theme daze(save ends) power to my attack, told rin, she says it is k and she is adding it I think

Hmmm, this could be problematic. Hide, did you see that the outlaw theme power "Surprising Strike" only triggers off of "basic attacks or at-will weapon attack powers?"

>>7226
From what I've seen, most themes are monk unfriendly.

Okay so if its attack against creatures what end their turn nearby is an OA, that means Torinn should just attack and forget Righteous Radiance.

Delay your turn to find out, maybe? I plan to Dimensional Vortex it on its own turn so it can attack itself, but if I don't move it at all I can make it just attack itself with one attack (not the entire hydra fury I assume) so then I can also do it on its own turn or just stick to shielding fire... but 23 damage is one short of stopping the regen twice. Unless it has a Fire vulnerability.

>>7229
It's a free action, not an OA.

>>7226
I brought it up with you and you OK'd it for monk a loong time ago

>>7231
either way, if you don't want the daze going off this turn, that's ok

Eladrin Warlords get int mod bonus to healing omg. Maybe I should MC Sariel into a Warlord.

>>7228
If it hits, Tactical Assault should apply. Action point attacks deal 4 more damage.

>>7231
I hadn't read the power, I assumed if you were suggesting it that it worked. I hope you weren't interpreting my answer as changing the power somehow.

In any case, for this dungeon I'll just let it work with your at-will powers, but you might wanna think about a different theme for when you level up.

Let me make sure here. This is the first action point an ally of Bernkastel's has spent this encounter, so it should get the attack bonus from tactical presence, right?

>>7236
Do I not get a choice in the matter?

>>7237
I guess it's fair to make the choice, but technically you're supposed to make it before you even seen an attack roll, because it triggers when the action point is spent. Are you saying you don't want to grant the bonus?

>>7238
I'd been saving it for Torinn's action point daily, but you're right that I've already seen the roll. I'll use the bonus here. +3 etc.

>>7235
Well, I'm pretty sure I brought up the whole thing with you to begin with, or I would have just switched to something else. I think I mentioned that it might not work with monk but you said it was ok. Other problem is there aren't many other themes that interest me or have some good bonuses with it.

>>7240
>end adventure
>proven innocent
>change theme
well at least it make sense

>>7240
As I mentioned before, few if any themes are actually monk friendly.

omg it's gonna suck not having d&d for a few days

Okay, so, the official timeline for when I'll be unable to update will be Saturday and Sunday. I'll be back Monday, most likely. Feel free to continue posting and advancing a bit at any time, but I'm likely to hold off any real encounters until Tuesday at the earliest!

>mfw alfsair spear works with gouge
Headsman's Chop bonuses on everything forever?

>>7276
Ya'know, the protector druid build I posted earlier with polearm momentum shenanigans used that exact trick.

hey guys, you should probably heal up

Oh rite, I'm not fully healed

I found an interesting thingy.

>>7301
Final Parlor encounter was Yellow, huh.

>>7302
I would say it's more orangish yellow myself

heal where

Short rest suggestion, unless someone else wants to spend a surge to top off their HP. From just the surges,

Myn: spend 0, heal for 0+4+0=4, 47/50 HP, surges left: 5, overhealing: 0
Folka: spend 1, heal for 12+4+1=17, 48/48 HP, surges left: 4, overhealing: 6
Bernkastel: spend 0, heal for 0+4+0=4, 44/47 HP, surges left: 6, overhealing: 0
Torinn: spend 1, heal for 19+4+1=24, 50/58 HP, surges left: 6, overhealing: 0
Sureiya: spend 0, heal for 0+4+0=4, 49/55 HP, surges left: 3, overhealing: 0
Sariel: spend 0, heal for 0+4+0=4, 51/51 HP, surges left: 9, overhealing: 4

>One Healing Spirit for Folka heals Torinn for 8 HP. I have one unused from this encounter.
>One Healing Spirit for Torinn heals Sureiya for 8 HP. This one recovers at the end of the first short rest.
>If we take a second short rest so I can recover Healing spirit again, it all takes 10 minutes.

End result etc.

Myn: 47/50 HP, 5 surges left
Folka: 48/48 HP, 4 surges left
Bernkastel: 44/47 HP, 6 surges left
Torinn: 58/58 HP, 6 surges left
Sureiya: 55/55 HP, 3 surges left
Sariel: 51/51 HP, 9 surges left

>>7306
Should I use Comrade's Succor now or next encounter?

Also, did I learn Succor from the Scroll or not, Rin? You said I could when we found the Scrolls, but I've since shown the rules contradict it, so.

>>7307
I'm pretty positive I also said you found a ritual book with the ritual in it, and in the past I made an exception to the rules that you could copy the ritual from a ritual book for free (normally, you have to pay). I'll try to dig up where I said that later.

>>7307
I think I can live with 3 surges, folka is probably fine as well.

So, um... I'm back! Feel free to post your healing details, or otherwise progress.

I would be badgering Torinn to move ahead, but he's still short on health/needs a heal.

>>7317
Didn't I just heal?

>>7318
One surge isn't enough to heal you from half health is it?

I think everyone is healed with bern healing plan

Try to post anything else you want to do before tomorrow because I'm going to try to get an update in then.

>fire
>Duergar
>corssbow bolts

Drow?

I think we should destroy the corpses to counter-act possible necromancy.

It's not a bad idea...

>White Horn Knight PP
>get scaling unicorn mount
So that's how they're handing out mounts for everyone now. Path itself isn't terrible, but not great either.

So if invisible castle isn't back by tomorrow, are we moving to that place we used to roll like before

Pictures of cheese?

>>7336
Yes

So should I Hand of Fate to pinpoint the location of the mystery Duergar killer or do we expect a linear progression to them?

>>7338
how do that work

So is everyone okay with the eladrin just walking around casually dismembering humanoid corpses?

>>7342
I would think the paladin would have something to say about it, as for me, she clearly has some reason behind it, IE, necromancer shenanigans possibly related to dueregar having to do with evil drow.

We've finally gone full circle with bern's post now

But really, I should do an orthodox autopsy with a Heal check for the actual causes of death (if they're dead) before Sariel's perfect autopsy.

>>7342
Nope.

We'll use this as a backup until invisiblecastle gets its act together.

http://www.rpol.net/

Everyone should already be in the Seacats game there.

By the way, the floor is smoothed, worked stone. I don't think your tiger will be able to dig through it.

>>7356
Can I at least make a roll to try?

>>7357
Oh, for the... why do players want to do things that are silly to even think about?

>>7358
You don't have to get angry at me for that. I just wanted to make the moment more poignant. If I'd been paying attention, I'd notice that was stone and not dirt. Sorry.

>>7359
I'm fine with making the moment more poignant and all, but you need to think about what's appropriate to the situation. To be honest the alternating between normal cavern floors and worked stone is actually intended to be fitting for the idea of the dungeon I had in mind.

I don't wanna be inflexible here, but maybe you should think of something to do other than trying to dig through solid stone with no tools.

By the way limbo members, rin doesnt seem to want to say whether these deaths are related like what we discussed last night so it's up to bern to check the corpses etc.

also, invisible castle is back

Since IC is back and everyone's back and in the saddle I'd like to get this moving along. Make sure to say what you want to say as far as RP goes soonish, because a long delay may incite me to cause something to happen~!

Rolled a perception check but it ended up the same as my passive perception so not even worth posting.http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3314984/

Also, curses, it might now be too late for bern to do her autopsying?

Our party has no moral compass.

>>7368
Clearly the paladin is our shining beacon of hypocrite excellence.

>>7368
quickly, inspect the corpses etc

It's probably important to look at some of them. Who knows if they're all dead etc.

>>7374
Also I'm surprised looting never came up this time.

Darn, so no umineko death relations huh

Jeez, come on people. (like those who completed skill checks) Communicate with the party

So would Riri have to do a religion check to glean this new information?

>>7381
Based on the earlier religion check, Sariel thinks that this is completely abnormal among duergar. An arcana check could help to clarify things, however.

I think they might be azer. They hail from elemental chaos though so if true, bern's not gonna like dis

That's pretty great, riri

Freestyle rap roll was mediocre so nothing I can do about the terrible rhyme there.

pfftt, it was great

What're those knob-like things on the walls? There's two on each side and they look almost like they're for holding torches.

>>7395
Sorry, I did forget to mention those. They are, in fact, empty torch-holders like you said. If you inspected them you'd find that they did in fact once hold torches, but they've long since burned down to nothing.

So I was considering retraining Grasping Shadows to Dread Presence. Damage die grows from 1d8 to 1d10, range suffers from 10 to Close, area of effect grows from burst 1 to blast 5, and it still Slows on hit. The zone does Wis mod (1) damage to creatures that end their turn there. Neither is party-friendly.

Other candidate is Twilight Falls: not party friendly, damage die is 1d6, burst 1 within 10, but it dazes creature in origin square on hit and creates a zone that gives us concealment against creatures within the zone.

Twilight Falls is obv useful for its Daze power, whereas the other two give Slow. Grasping Shadows is range 11 for single-target damage, Presence is 5. Presence can grab a LOT of enemies and its area is party friendly iirc but yeah, idk.

>>7398
presense looks good

There's also Glorious Presence by the way for 2d6 damage, and push 1. I didn't think that one was much useful.

What's going on here, guys? Posting's been kind of sluggish lately. Are people still recovering from the holidays or something?

Alright, this is going nowhere, I see two options what do you think?
1) Attempt an ambush through the door
2) Make obvious our presence and ask them to meet us.

>>7425
A request. Can I have my elemental spirit be somewhere else, like elevation 2 or next to me, so Torinn can move through without squeezing?

Jeez rin, had you put those two higher in the initiative earlier, I might not have delayed maybe

>>7431
wait nvm sry that encourages metagaming

george powerfull attack makes it hard to negotiate now

>Diplomacy worked
Holy bats.

>>7449
I know, right?

Clearly evil drow though it's a scheme so they can set on us later after we eradicate this Sankis fellow.

Also I have a hunch that both sides are rubbish. Sankis probably attacked us because they think we're with the drow, and the drow attacked us because they think we're with Sankis.

Who wants to try diplomacy with Sankis to find out etc.

>>7452
>negotiate a truce between two warring factions
Yes! YES!

I mean truce between Sankis and us. Let the Evils kill each other we have a leyline to find.

>>7455
Except the other ones might be blocking our way to said leylines.

We need our diplomat to talk again, she ignored the brute orc.

>>7458
Well, it's not so much they ignored him, but... well, let me edit in some clarification.

>>7459
Oh, that's better.
Anyways, another diplomacy roll + a better explanation would be nice.

I think even people without insight can tell that, Rin

>>7473
Bern roll wasn't very high.

Anyways, that sounds like the leyline, we should suggest them to join forces etc.

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0Pf2xAWVLoANGRmNzZmZjUtYTE4MS00MzgwLWIwNjQtMGQ0M2VmYzE1YTVm

omg aren't executioners/anything proficient with ki focus supposed to apply the ki focus bonus to any weapon/implement attack?

>>7483
Yes, they are. Equip the daggers and try again.

nop doesn't work oh well.

>>7485
Strange. It should work.

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4ll/20120109

omg dnd 5e

omg doesnt bern or riri have anything to say to this priestess of probably lolth

>>7488
Somehow I think involving player opinion isn't going to take 5e in the right direction if they listen to the overwhelming majority of whiners or something.

So, time to move on? I may not have time to get in a full update until after class, but I'll do my best to do it then.

I'll be honest, there's nothing Sariel has to say that wouldn't somehow piss the priestess off.

Let's kill the spiders while they're charmed.

>>7496
:|

gud id

>>7488
What, already? It hasn't even been four years since 4E came out and they're already trying out the next version? Dammit, WotC, haven't you learned that people don't like having the books they invested so much money in becoming worthless? It's not so much the edition changes as it is a matter of relearning everything and having to pay even more money for something that's not even compatible with their old stuff. It's like going from a Windows 95 to a Windows 7; the transition is jarring and none of the old stuff works with the new stuff.

In other words, they should have waited longer.

>>7501
>buying books
laughingnerds.png

>>7502
Like I said, I'm aware of the irony. But I'm also pretty sure I'm right.

>>7503
Yeah, the d&d books cost way too much nowadays.

anyways as you have noticed, a d&d version doesn't die because a new one appears

As for DnD 5E, I'm not terribly worried. If I like it enough we may make the switch if it comes out around the time our paragon and/or epic campaign comes around--but only if there's enough material available to make such a transition and the players agree. Otherwise, we'll be sticking with 4E even if there's a 5E out.

Anyway, I'm doing the DM work of preparing your next encounter(s), and then will begin mapping it out appropriately, so expect to see a map update from me tonight. No more stalling. With that said, it can take me hours to make a map I'm satisfied with, so you may have to bear with me.

>>7510
Don't worry, we all usually slow down a bit whenever we are out of encounter.

>White Horn Knight prerequisites : wear heavy armor
>comes with a summoned mount with a +7 to attack rolls
great, now knights get to play cavalier too
thanks wizards

u mad

>>7518
No I am not mad, I am ecstatic that I had a really amazing idea with the real possibility of being used, and doing what char-op has been clamoring for but not actually done anything about - fixing Righteous Radiance. If it were a feat, it wouldn't even be a feat tax. It'd be the last payment you need to make before you get to claim ownership of and operate a giant death ray.

I blame not sleeping on this excitement over something that's actually fairly trivial in the grand scheme of things. I somehow get my best/most insane ideas when I don't sleep, and that's not a good sign. And I know I shouldn't get my hopes up, because it's almost never worked out in my favor before, but just this once, I want to believe that I had an amazing idea that'll see the light of day.

>White Lotus Dueling Expertise
Prerequisite: Any arcane class
Benefit: You gain a +1 feat bonus to the attack
rolls of arcane powers and basic attacks that you make with any weapon or implement with which you have proficiency. This bonus increases to +2 at 11th level and +3 at 21st level.
You also gain proficiency with orbs, rods, staffs, or wands.

>Eldritch Fusillade Expertise
Prerequisite: Artificer, Crossbow Caster feat
Benefit: You gain a +1 feat bonus to attack rolls that you make with a crossbow or a wand. This bonus increases to +2 at 11th level and +3 at 21st level.
You can also draw or stow a wand once per round
as a free action on your turn, and you can load a crossbow as a free action.

>Battle Song Expertise
Prerequisite: Bard
Benefit: You gain a +1 feat bonus to attack rolls you make with any weapon with which you have proficiency and with a wand or another item designated as a bard implement. This bonus increases to +2 at 11th level and +3 at 21st level.
You also gain a +1 feat bonus to the number of
squares that you can pull, push, or slide creatures with your bard attacks and bard paragon path attacks.

>Devout Protector Expertise
Prerequisite: Proficiency with holy symbols
Benefit: You gain a +1 feat bonus to weapon
attack rolls you make with any one-handed melee
weapon and a +1 feat bonus to implement attack rolls you make with holy symbols. These bonuses increase to +2 at 11th level and +3 at 21st level.
In addition, while you use a shield, your allies gain a +1 shield bonus to AC.

>Mighty Crusader Expertise
Prerequisite: Proficiency with holy symbols
Benefit: You gain a +1 feat bonus to weapon
attack rolls you make with any two-handed melee
weapon and a +1 feat bonus to implement attack rolls you make with holy symbols. These bonuses increase to +2 at 11th level and +3 at 21st level.
In addition, while you wield a two-handed melee
weapon, ranged and area attacks you make with a
holy symbol do not provoke opportunity attacks.

>>7520
White Lotus Dueling Expertise just went from pretty meh to amazing for arcane classes that want implements and weapons at the same time.

And yes, Devout Protector update is nothing short of completely and utterly great for sword and board paladins. No range restriction at all on that means anybody who didn't already have a shield bonus now gets one for free.

They finally fixed zone ping-ponging, yay.

Also, updated versatile expertise finally. Huzzah.

Duelling Expertise is more interesting for Sorcerors than any other Arcane class, really: some Sorcerors want to use daggers, so getting that is neat, and having the option to wield an implement they are not normally proficient with is nice for elemental builds.

Otherwise, meh, it doesn't add a lot to the other Arcane classes.

So Astaroth are you getting Devout Protector expertise.

Oh, I forgot one.

>War Wizard’s Expertise
Prerequisite: Any arcane class
Benefit: You gain a +1 feat bonus to the attack rolls of arcane powers and basic attacks that you make with a light blade or a heavy blade. This bonus increases to +2 at 11th level and +3 at 21st level.
Also, when you use an arcane attack power with a light blade or a heavy blade, your attack rolls take a –5 penalty against your allies.

I like the one that gives proficiency with staves, orbs, etc., though. Warlocks could find a use for it too as opening up staves to them gives them the Staff of Ruin implement which can be pretty important to non-Darkspiral warlocks who aren't interested in any particular brand of cheese.

>>7523
To be fair, I don't think WotC factored in that some warlocks could get away with skipping short rests or be granted attacks en masse from a single source.
>>7522
Very likely, but it depends. How many members of the party would benefit from it?

>>7524
Wait, actually I don't know if I can. Only one thing can be retrained upon reaching a level, can only retrain stuff, like, right when you level up, Master of Stories too good to skip, etc.

Anyone else gonna do/say anything?

>>7526
busyyyyyyy

>>7527
What are you so busy with all the time anyway.

>>7528
stuff

>>7526
Waiting for everyone else, already explained why.

The new handbook has informed me about reserve maneuver, so I suppose it was at least marginally useful.

>>7535
So you did read it, huh? Good boy.

I wanted to make a major post that would advance significantly but I'm just feeling a bit less than 100% right now. So maybe expect a smaller post a bit later, because I still want to get something up. My apologies for my own lack of pushing things these last few days. The only excuse I can make is the college term just started back up this week and I'm still re-adjusting.

>>7544

Ganbare, Anchan!

>>7546
That was an old post nub

>>7550

????????????????????

mynfailinghisperceptioncheck.png

>>7560

>implying that everything that doesn't glow isn't magic

Should I delay until we get better lighting?

>>7565
Aren't you holding a sunrod? You said you activated one.

>>7566
Oh, right, nevermind.

>>7567
...Wait, how can I move ahead with that column in the way? Don't tell me I have to dismount?

>>7568
You could squeeze. Or use a ranged attack of some sort to destroy the support so it collapses and then move through.

>>7569
I don't have any ranged attacks.

Incidentally, was thinking of retraining feat list upon hitting level 7 to this:

1. Master of Stories
2. Skill Power (Legend Lore)
4. Improved Initiative
* Devout Protector Expertise
* Mounted Combat
6. Improved Celestial Steed

If I can't make myself a better defender, I'll have to go with being a better leader and make some substantial contribution to knowledge checks. And my history modifier would be the equivalent of a +1 bonus, so I'm not losing out on anything. Also don't see any other feats I really need besides that.

>bad guy has a reach weapon
>have to go past prisoners first
>real enemies waaaay out of range of even my enhanced mobility
Yeah, I don't think so.

Lets diplomacy the drows to rebel against them, let's tell them the priestess sent us.

>>7575
I think I convinced at least a few of them. Unless they've had their willpower completely beaten out of them.

Well, I did toss it at those rocks earlier, so it could hypothetically have been in active mode since then.

Slaying or disabling the taskmaster outright should cripple the morale of the imps and break the hold over their workers. Stunning Palm, Your Glorious Sacrifice, Hunger of Hadaar, whatever works. Just take him out of the fight quickly.

If we do it aggressively, we can save a lot more resources in the long run.

>the support isn't hit
>strange stone that could cause a cave in
Okay, so we should move inside as fast as possible?

igiveup.png

>>7586
That's my line. Why is everyone taking so long?

Well, excuuuuuuuuuuse me for not being home all day.

Anyway, does moving through the portal count as movement? Can I just move through the squares adjacent the portal as normal?

>>7587
I said it because people's characters seem to waltz through portals without giving a second thought. To what I assume is anon's characters comment about why didn't you tell them sooner, etc

>>7588
Why would you do that? Just bring the bad guy down low enough and let the rabble finish him off.

>the torinn

So, if we shoot the supports how likely is it that we kill the enemies without being crushed mercilessly ourselves.

>>7590
Because they're the closest targets, obviously.

>>7591
>the torinn

>>7592
i will not support killing of slaves etc

That should be "knowledge", not "cognitive abilities".

So basically, Rin, can I reach Z-3 and Grasping Shadows the spot between Imp and Taskmaster? Since it's an area attack, does the Imp get the benefit of concealment?

>>7597

It's okay to kill stuff that's trying to kill you, right.

>>7601
You can move normally through the portal without interrupting your movement. Close and area attacks aren't affected by concealment.

>>7604
So I can't reach Z-3?

>>7607
Z-2, you could. I don't think you could reach Z-3 with a move of 6 though.

Already took my turn etc.

so, sureiya turn now?

Also, I'm at AA-2, not AA-1.

Fly hide, fly!

>>7623
I don't think he can reach anyone other than the slaves.

>>7624
What kobolds.

>>7625
By kobolds, I mean troglodytes.

omg it hit me?

>>7629
Barely, it rolled like a 15 on the d20 and it was still barely a hit.

>>7631
fffffff

also >marked
likeigiveafuck.png I can just remove that with movement techniques~

If Bern hasn't taken her turn by the time I get back from class, then I'm gonna just be taking her turns until we hear from her.

>>7635
I don't feel like doing the same for Parlor. I'm fine with skipping her turn but I'd rather someone else take it.

hey george go die plz

omg why did you end your movement there, now rocks falls etc

>>7641

Hey it's not my fault you all decided to hang out around the only spot I could move to!

attack penalty auras are the bane of my existance etc

Message to Astaroth hiding somewhere:


hi

With Bern gone I think we lost our tactical leader.

I plan to Winged Horde the monsters surrounding Folka so Folka can make good his escape, while putting Roth behind Sariel to avoid losing a healing surge for her.

For the Move Action, I'm Fey Stepping past the rubble.

That leaves me a Minor Action and Action Point; I intend to use the Action Point to launch a Charge attack an Imp down or repeat my Winged Horde. What do you think?

For the Minor, I'll Mark the Troglodyte not near Folka.

The others should avoid nearing the Drow that used Cloud of Darkness, and ideally focus fire on the Troglodytes, I think. Troglodytes risk us suffering the attack penalties and all; attack with non-lethal to keep Torinn/Astaroth happy. I'm not entirely sure we can afford just focusing fire on the Taskmaster, since we don't know its HP values and Bern's gone.

I think a charge would be nice, Torinn got too much pressure on him and he got low hp.

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4ex/20120123

New Monk powers, I'm taking my turn with the plan I lined out above if no one has any other suggestions. When I wake up tomorrow morning etc.

>>7649
Oh god, if those are just the teasers for it, I can't wait for the rest of the monk stuff

>>7650
I know right.

Also since Hidei posted and Anon posted and no input was given I hereby declare that the plan is uncontested, given George never gives a damn, Bern is gone, Astaroth is gone and that leaves us a party of three!

>>7651
I agreed with the plan anyway so it's k, good luck riri, etc.

>>7653
Turn is a waste of everything but movement so we'll see.

There's also a new wizard build that has an elemental familiar. Earth has difficult terrain around caster and familiar and wind has slide 2, others look a bit boring.

>>7651
Also, I think astaroth e-mailed you too as to why he's gone etc

>>7655
Yes he did I know etc. I really hate dicerolls now though, why can't I get some good rolls consistently.

>>7656
clearly, it's george's fault

>>7657
Clearly Warlock pact interfering with Sariel's magic etc.

being riri is suffering

we should replace him with space core pact warforged
he could be looking for his estranged dad and wary of authority and the lawwwwwww

Jeez, riri's light didn't help me become notblind huh

>>7665
The cloud of darkness would be an incredibly useless ability if it could be foiled by a light source.

Now, I don't really see this as too debilitating to you, really. You're a monk, and total concealment only matters as far as melee and ranged attack powers go. Burst and blast powers aren't affected at all (though they take the troglodtye stench penalty if you're there).

>>7666
Yeah, but I'm being marked on top of that unless i include the troglodyte in my attack and if i wanted to go solely for something else it'd be a pain

Also, playing this one game I have been playing makes me think of a possibility for a type of rule involving the way you're facing positionally, (north, west, south, east) and a buff and/or penalty for using it to your advantage. (Combat advantage is sort of what that is I guess, but still an idea I had.)

>>7667
Perhaps, but the two drow near you are granting CA at least since they're next to anon's wall.

>>7668
Facing rules were left out of DnD for various reasons, not the least of which being that it's assumed that you're paying attention to all sides during combat.

>>7667
You have an at-will close burst and your flurry of blows can slide stuff around. You can easily set them up for something nasty.

For instance, hit somebody, slide them into position, then drunken monkey the troglodyte with an action point and get second flurry of blows. A recipe for disaster of the delicious sort.

Also, you can use surprise strike since you have CA and daze somebody. Really, you can just completely wreck the enemies near you, then saunter on out like a boss.

Or pummel the troglodyte with attacks vs. will and/or reflex and take it out of the fight. Mark = soldier I think so high fort and AC.

You've got more options than you think.

>>7669
I never got why it was assumed we were facing all directions at all times, etc, and i'm wondering what those various reasons are

>>7671
Simplicity, for one thing. If we added facing it'd have to change a lot of other combat rules that are already pretty complex as it is.

The other reasons are mostly those "other things" that would have to be changed.

>Folka's fluffy of blows
>fluffy
Oh Rin-tan.

>>7676
Yeah, I just woke up and noticed that too.

>>7679

If Hide wants to hit something with Open the Gates of Battle, there's those annoying imps who've managed to avoid being caught by any attacks so far and would probably not like to be locked down.

Or just kill the kobolds. Actually, kill those first so the auras and marks are gone. Then maybe sit next to the imps so they're on notice.