T-there are a lot of stickies in this board~

Well, I try to unsticky threads when we change to a new one. So there should only be 3 stickies at a given point in time.

Anyway, craud encounter. Here's what I have for healing surges spent:

Surges Spent:
Bernkastel: 2
Torinn: 3
Myn: 3
Michael: 1
Sureiya: 2

Current HP Values:
Myn 40/44 HP
Michael 40/40 HP
Bernkastel 34/34 HP
Torinn 45/46 HP
Sureiya 43/45 HP

Please note that for now I am enforcing the rule that "you can't take an extended rest except in a sheltered area," such as a city, or by using a ritual that creates a "safe zone." This means that sleeping on the boat or camping don't count as extended rests, only short rests. As such you have not yet received the benefit of an extended rest since the craud encounter.

XP Earned: 353 XP each
Expected XP Total (after battle): 4253/5500

Please update your sheets to the new total as soon as possible. Now, to get to work on your next encounter.

>>2486
I sure seem to go through those healing surges quickly.

>knows when to stop
>docks itself
>makes its own dock
>anchors itself
>no sails needed
Nice boat.

How about some aid another with Bern for the forage? Getting a 15 by ourselves doesn't look very easy.

>>2493
>15
You mean 25, right?

>>2494
Well, with a 15 you can get food for yourself, so we should try to aim for a 25 (food for all of us).

>>2495
That's what I meant.

Anyways, why Shion in game responses from npc always end up using that sad face? Is Sureiya really that rude?! I'm starting to get concerned about it.

>>2497
You did call something he was very proud of a "toy".

>>2498
Alright, the word toy doesn't always have a bad meaning but okay, it make sense he got a little offended, but even before that she used the same sprite! And I'm certain that's not the first time I see it.

Still not a good place to summon a horse.

Sweetfish river etc.

Incidentally, lizardfolk only speak Draconic; this should have been relayed with the other info.

The crusher seems dangerous ...

>unaligned humanoids that finally speak the same language as Torinn
>diplomacy doesn't work
>no time to summon mount
>they have push powers
Are you crushing my soul on purpose?

>>2523
There's no need to get in such despair. You just can't always count on being able to be riding on your horse whenever combat starts. I'm not really INTENTIONALLY trying to set up encounters that mess with your class abilities--only one of these enemies has forced movement and the ability to knock prone.

If anything, the short time before combat starts is me learning from my mistake of giving you guys a surprise round on the dragon, which made it kind of a non-challenge.

Anyway, the pegasus is pretty much godly so I don't see the issue!

>>2524
It is godly. In fact, the Cavalier's mounts are strictly better than any mount in the game because they scale and cost no gold to upgrade. But I don't get a pegasus until paragon tier, though. I'm grounded until then. I wasn't aware of how situational the heroic tier mount was at first, so I'm a little disappointed by the reality of it. I was really looking forward to playing a valiant knight on horseback.

I'll get my chance someday, though.

http://www.mediafire.com/?g3wyp2yby4zzmqa

The mystic looks like the one calling the shots. Should we inspire distrust of their fearless leader?

>>2532
>drown him
elaborate

>>2536
Hurl him to L-20, which is underwater, I think. If he's immobilized by the initial attack, he can't even make an endurance check to not drown because he can't swim.

Also would impress superstitious natives.

>>2537
There are a couple of nitpicks I have with that.

A) The rules compendium doesn't say anything about "can't make an Endurance check because he's immobilized." If it's underwater, it makes the Endurance check regardless, it doesn't automatically fail because it's immobilized.
B) Furthermore, even if the lizardfolk is pushed into the water, being immobilized doesn't prevent it from making an Athletics check to tread water, preventing it from changing elevations and be in danger of drowning in the first place. All immobilization does is prevent it from leaving its space via normal movement. It doesn't paralyze the creature. Of course, you could slide the target under the water directly (forced movement is allowed in 3 dimensions, so long as you're not sliding an earthbound creature "up").
C) I'd say that forcing a lizardfolk into water definitely counts as sliding it into "hindering terrain." It would get a saving throw to avoid falling in the river.

I am not sure about what you could do this turn Bern, but if you plan to use Scorching sands please wait another turn, I would like to use it against the big one.

>>2538
Whoops. I made too many assumptions there.

Does the saving throw negate the forced movement entirely if it succeeds?

>>2540
Not in this case, since it's not teleportation. In the case of a push, pull, or slide, it'll drop prone in the last space before it was forced to change to hindering terrain.

I should note that drowning isn't exactly a very quick way to deal damage, either. When it fails an Endurance save, first it would lose a healing surge, then it would take damage equal to its level every round.

>>2541
It's the impression that counts?

1. Greenscale Raider 1 (G-15), -35 HP (Bloodied)
-This one should fall with 20 damage at most, and we'll have one less shift prevention to worry about. No need to restrict its movement, since it should die quickly.

2. Blackscale Crusher (G/H-9/10)
-A big threat, dealing high damage from behind the front lines. We need to drag it into a flanking position and focus fire. We don't know how much HP it has, so we should focus encounter powers on it. Since it's large, the melee attackers and one of my spirits can surround and immobilize it.

3. Greenscale Raider 2 (J-11), -16 HP, dazed
-It's dazed, so it's less of a threat at the moment. It'll fall with 39 damage, at most.

4. Greenscale Bog Mystic (D-11)
-We'll attack it when the melee are more free to flank and focus. Since it's a controller, while it's alive, non-melee combatants should stay spread out.

??. Greenscale Hunters
-To be killed one at a time between the high-priority targets, but only with a good opportunity to flank.

Note: While focusing on a target, we should try to deter it from running off to a ranged ally.

My spirit companion can replace an ally in one of the three positions, if needed.

To Hide: A suggestion was brought up that Michael should let Torinn take his turn first for the combat advantage from either a daze or a flank. It's your choice, though, and we'll come up with some other plan if you disagree.

"A blackscale lizardfolk ... when it is attacked, it has a tendency to retaliate with a large sweep of its tail, knocking nearby enemies prone."

It's unfortunate that the daze missed. We'll have to do without CA for a bit longer, depending on the prone thing.

>>2554
And there's the insult to injury. Fantastic.

>>2555
You should intimidate it when it's bloodied, ne.

>>2556
Will do.

>>2554
Oh fuck, can't you daze it bern?

For the sake of history

Alright, when they refuse to escape what to do? Go for the leader?

>>2573
Take him down.

Well, that could take some time, since I'm still slowed~

>>2575
Or marauder's rush it.

Still won't reach.

>>2577
Move, then charge. You're not subject to its aura since its attack missed you.

I'm not sure if that's how it works ... anyways with just three enemies this should not last long.

>>2579
Why wouldn't it? You get speed two, that doesn't mean you can only move two squares across two move actions. You can move up to four.

The Mystic is at D-12. Sureiya is at H-13. Move through H-12 to G-11. Then charge through F-11 to E-10. It's very doable. The crusher's not gonna stop you, since it's, well, down.

>Swamp's grasp creates a zone of swampy terrain until the end of the encounter. The zone is difficult terrain to creatures without swamp walk.

>>2581
That's the stuff you're standing on the edge of. You can walk out of it just fine.

I see, I confused it with the aura.

Enabling Sureiya so he can make attacks might be a good idea.

Just FYI, the bog mystic may have another action to take before it runs off if Torinn bloodies it with an opportunity attack.

I was wondering how a system would work if we removed AC, made all attacks that targeted AC instead target Reflex, remove proficiency bonuses from weapons (give +3 prof weapons an "Accurate" property for +1 attack rolls), and make armor give damage resistance instead of boosting a defense. Perhaps also add a damage resistance based on a stat (like Constitution).

I don't think it would really work with only doing that much, but it was an interesting thought.

>>2595
Every melee should multiclass assassin/monk for mighty ki focus. (high crit and unerring)

also >heavy armor

>>2596
>>2597
The system I was envisioning this for would be different in a lot of other ways, too. Separation of all attacks into physical/magical, Constitution would add to physical damage resist while Intelligence would add to magical damage resist. The three defenses would be Evade (Dex/Int), Magic Evade (Wis/Cha), and Resilience (Str/Con). Evade and Magic Evade would be used in To-Hit rolls for most attacks, and Resilience would be used in To-Hit rolls for most conditions and forced movement.

In the end, though, I think the shift would be too dramatic and complicated. I'm not sure how to scale it. I was thinking of some hack-solutions like you have a base resist of one-half your level, which the relevant ability mod and armor adding to that, and no attack could be reduced below half damage (necessary to keep first level characters from completely resisting the damage of heroic tier monsters), but those ARE hacks and not terribly elegant. Also, since Con added to physical damage resist, there was a fear that it counted for too much in adding to HP/surges, so I though I'd remove it from those and make it so that HP/surges were dependent on racial modifiers + class modifiers and are independent of ability scores (High HP races would have +16 HP +3 surges, to low HP races would have +12 HP and +1 surges).

Not sure if I can do anything much while dazed. I only get one action or something.

Oh, and can't install character builder update on Windows 7 64 bit. Something about a 7-zip error.

>>2607
I have Windows 7 64-bit too, and I installed it without trouble. Try using something other than 7zip?

>>2608
I didn't even have 7-zip installed when I got the error.

I should turn file extensions back on, probably.

>>2609
Looks like an access restriction problem of some kind is placed on that folder. How do I remove that?

>>2611
Right-click the folder, Security, and set permissions so everyone has Full Access. You'll need Administrator rights to do that, of course.

>>2612
Got it. It works now.

Something just occurred to me. Since Michael has a Healing Brooch, if he uses the Battle Standard of Healing (a power with the healing keyword), the HP recovered from the standard should have the bonus from the brooch, right?

>>2614
I think it works on powers, but the standard also uses a power.

Not sure that it's supposed to work like that anyway, though.

>>2614
I am not really sure, but I am tentatively thinking I could allow it because it keeps the battle standard relevant at later levels. My gut reaction is that it could be overpowered, though, so no promises.

>>2617
Then is it safe to say we can heal the extra for the short rest after this?

>>2619
I suppose so. Don't take it as absolute precedent for the trick working, though.

>>2620
Houserule them into item bonuses to healing or something so they don't stack.

Myn: spend 0, heal for 0+6=6, 41/44 HP

Michael: spend 0, heal for 0+6=6, 40/40 HP (1 overhealing)

Bernkastel: spend 1, heal for 8+6=14, 34/34 HP (1 overhealing)

Torinn: *Inspiring Word* spend 1, heal for 16+6+(1d6+3+1)=26+1d6

Sureiya: *First Aid Second Wind* spend 1, heal for 11+6+1=18, 41/45 HP
(the extra 1 from the healing brooch if Michael grants the second wind, which is a healing power)

formatting mistakes ;_;

>>2627
>Sureiya: *First Aid Second Wind* spend 1, heal for 11+6+1=18, 41/45 HP
>(the extra 1 from the healing brooch if Michael grants the second wind, which is a healing power)

First aid "allows them to use a second wind," it's not really "using a healing power on them," I am pretty sure.

>>2628
And if I spend a healing surge, wouldn't that do the trick?

>>2628
I thought it was a power, for some reason. Well, it's just 1 HP.

Anyways, I don't mind missing 1 hp.

Oh, and more importantly. Should we try to make the rail move again? Or simply ignore the danger and sleep again?

>>2633
Get out of here. But that requires an arcana check.

George, go to the rail and spam arcana checks, if you break it we use the scroll.

What should I ask, anyway?

>>2637
Their names, motive for raid, their leader's name, tribe size, usual etc.

>>2638
Okay, but Torinn's already indicated he wants to move on. You'll have to tell him what you want.

>>2636
You can, I'm just wondering if you had a plan before waking up a hostile monster in the middle of the group.

If possible, when you update please consider we took the short rest. We probably don't plan to tie those guys or anything, if they don't seem like talking we will just move.

No short rest for me, ne.

>>2648
You don't have an aura. You don't really benefit from not resting.

>>2649

It's a pain to go through encounter powers again when I could just use up my last one and get arcane reserves, though...

>>2650
You do more damage with encounter powers than with arcana reserves.

>>2651

1d10+2 vs 2d6 (+3 at start of turn) vs 2d6 (+weakness damage + 3). Given that eldritch blast does get stronger over time, once I reach even a small aura value it should be considered on par with darkworm feast, meaning that I should generally be using it instead. YDW is usually weaker than eldritch blast + arcane reserves, and would be a waste of a standard action unless there's a weakness present, which hasn't been as common as I expected.

>>2652
But until you have that aura it's not as good. And you don't have one yet.

>>2653

However, that also lets me attack with fire damage. The dark pact benefit will add +3 to that, but that's the same as AR + aura 1, which isn't difficult to get in the least.

>>2655
Then you better use up blazing starfall right now, otherwise your damage will be very sub-par for the first round next fight bar some serendipitous positioning of enemies in a big cluster (or Bern going before you, but you can't rely on that). And as a striker, that's really bad.

I know you want to get some use out of everything you picked up, but with combat as short as it is, there's not going to be any significant gain from it until you get back that rod of corruption to get a very significant boost to the number of enemies cursed by you in that short time. The big reason you got such a huge aura last time was that gauntlet run that let you curse all those minions over the course of several turns. Until then you'd be rather sub-optimal at your striker role without encounter powers.

If you want to be sub-optimal, though, more power to you and do whatever seems more fun.

Come to think of it, we probably already know why they're attacking : their king wants sacrifices.

Why're we interrogating them again?

>>2661
Well Torinn knew, not us.
Anyways maybe we didn't consider the barrier in the communication between us. If anything you should try to ask them if their comrades are coming back.

Standard plant on boat, rest on the boat while Myn doesn't take the short rest and makes the boat go?

>>2668
Makes sense.

Themes are up. And they're pretty cool.

>>2676
info where

>>2678
Oh, right, you weren't there last night.

>>2679
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K3GYA2YB

>>2676
>>2680
They seem pretty good, depending on the class, but Noble might be the closest thing to my warlord right now I suppose.

>>2681
Yeah, but the flavor about being associated with something like a noble or a clergy puts them off limits for me.

I wanna become a Guard, it kinda fit my (non-existent) character background. Just gotta reread something about the city of Sureiya so I can write some explanations about it.