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"Hello, and welcome to the Camp Trial!

Here are the rules: I will give you bastards exactly 3 days from now to reach a conclusion about the culprit. After those 72 hours are all used up, or if everyone has voted before that, I will count the number of votes I have received.

To vote, simply e-mail me with the name of the person you wish to accuse of being the culprit. Voting can be done at any point during the trial, but once you vote, you cannot take it back! Think carefully!

The person with the most votes at the end will be accused of being the culprit!

If that person really is the culprit, they will be executed, and the game will continue to the next round. If that person really isn't the culprit, everyone other than the true culprit will be executed, and the game ends in the culprit's victory!

The fate of the game rests in all of you bastards' hands! By the way, you will be interacting with each other directly for this trial! Please discuss this matter with each other carefully, upupupu....!"

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"This sounds fun! Finally a fun group activity."

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>>14001
"Alright then, first thing is first. Let us recreate the crime scene."

MONOBEAR FILE: The victim is Drosselmeyer. The time of death was around 11:45 PM. The body was found in his room. Cause of death is a wound to the face made by a sharp object. Other than that, there are traces of damage to the head and right leg.

Upon investigating the room:
Upon entering I found Drosselmeyer's corpse lying on the floor. The dresser drawers were all open and empty. The table was on its side, and the pillows and blankets on the bed were in disarray. The bathroom's door was open; the curtain was open and the shower pointed toward the door. Most notable was an electric generator sitting in the center of the room plugged into an outlet.

Items found on corpse: Flashlight, Canned Food, and Gold Card.

-There are two large stab wounds on his head and face. There is also a cut on his right leg.

-There are no traces of bloodstains around the body or in the room.

-Looks like the generator is too heavy to be moved out of the room.

-The body was lying flat on his back, on the floor in front of the bed. His head was at the foot of the bed, and the items were found on his person.

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"I had to break the window to enter the room, however the doors were then disabled after that. While we are at it does anybody have additional facts regarding the room?"
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>>14001
"This is going to be difficult...There aren't many ways to narrow down suspects in a case like this. But let's start by sharing clues.

Firstly, my active skill allows me to immediately perceive any evidence in a room. Because of that, I can say with confidence that there were only three important clues in Drosselmeyer's room:

a) The corpse itself.
b) The electrical generator.
c) The carpet.

Ozaki already covered the first two. As for the carpet, there were no bloodstains on it; in other words, it's likely that the victim was killed elsewhere and moved to his room later.

...Hold on. Ozaki, you said that when you entered, the generator was plugged into the wall? When I investigated later, it was unplugged. Also, at the time that I investigated the corpse, his card was not on his person. Did you unplug the generator and take the card, or is someone else responsible?

Also, was the generator set to ON when you first entered? Because it was when I saw it."

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>>14004
"Technically I did go over the last one. I'm just vague with my investigations etc.

Anyway, it was OFF when I entered. I tried turning it on and I unplugged it to try some tests. I ended up asking Kazuichi to deal with it.

As for the card I only looked at it and then left it in the room. Kedgeworth and Lucas were with me so maybe they know?

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>>14004
"If they were killed outside and moved, doesn't that mean something strong is the culprit?"
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((Note: Ozaki, I think I edited my post at the exact same moment you posted yours. Just to alert you that you may have missed the last two paragraphs.))

>>14006
"Does it? I think that most of us could move a human body, given enough time. The questions are: first, what did the culprit have to gain by moving him? And second, why wasn't he in his room in the first place?

I wonder, when was the last time Drosselmeyer was seen alive? I didn't see him at all after he first entered his room yesterday."
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>>14007
((Yeah I edited my last post in order to respond))

"I could say the same. I only saw him once right at the start of the game getting all frisky with you and the other girls."

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>>14007
"Would it? If the person was bleeding and then dragged, wouldn't blood get along the areas he was dragged? I think my friend Fenris told me something like that once about blood and injuries..."
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>>14009
"That is true...Although it is possible that the blood could have been cleaned away later. We should also ask exactly how far the corpse was moved. ...It's a real shame that we didn't have more time to look around first, so that we could have tried to figure out where he was killed...

......By the way, what do you think of those two empty seats? 'Dark Kamijou'...That's the name of the owner of the cell phone we found in Rudolf-san's room. What could it mean?"
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>>14010
"Well he couldn't have been killed to far from his room right? It would be hassle to drag something far."

"They probably got lost, this camp was kind of hard to find."
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>>14011
>>14010
"...They are probably the names of the few people who never woke up from their tents."
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>>14011
"I guess, but...There were no spare rooms, right? If there were supposed to be more participants, you'd have thought there would have been rooms set out for them too...

The implications of the fact that we found an item that didn't belong to any of us are also worth considering. Does that mean that some of the other items we found may have belonged to those two...And therefore that some of our own items are missing? We really should have properly sorted out exactly who owned which items...Well, it probably isn't relevant to this case, so I guess we should focus. It does seem odd, though."
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>>14013
"Yeah lets move back on the subject of the murder. Does anybody have more facts or clues about the room or anything else regarding that?"
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>>14014
"Since he was moved, maybe he was in the location someone didn't want him? I had to move boxes once, because they didn't want them in the room anymore."
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"...I unplugged the generator whilst I was testing it with Ozaki. I'm not exactly sure what the culprit, or even Drosselmeyer, was doing with it. It's powerful enough to supply electricity to the entire dorm, if there were to be a power outage.

Speaking of the room, what was with the shower-head in the bathroom? Anyone know why it was pointed at the door? I mean, maybe something was washed off in there, but the place was dry when I got there..."

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"Could maybe Drosselmeyer been trying to graduate and went to someone else's room, but then it happened? I read something like that in the manga I brought. A girl went to the guy's room to graduate. Hey I just realized that manga is just like this. How interesting, I was right, they are manuals for real life!"
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>>14018
"..."
Kirigiri finally speaks up from among the group.
Uses Evidence Bullet: Bloodied Clever and Autopsy.

"I checked Drosselmeyers body and clothes, they were slightly dirty. He couldn't have been killed in the dorm area, on top of that, I found a bloodied clever washed up on the shore of the lake.. The wounds on his body were inflicted in quick succession, so it is likely he wasn't killed in anyone's room."
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>>14019
"Interesting. So it’s safe to assume that he was killed outside, dragged to and cleaned up in his room. The people that let their items be known to the group at the beginning, Rudolf, Kedgeworth, Rika, Blake, and myself included, did not have a “cleaver”. This is assuming that the cleaver Kirigiri is referring to is not a standard knife. I’m sure the people listed can vouch for me that this is true. Although, Kedgeworth said there were a suspicious lack of knives in the kitchen, so perhaps he can shed more light on that variable.
Unfortunately, I don't have much to add from an investigation standpoint as I found the exact clues Ozaki and Kazuichi first found. Not exactly my best prioritization of time.

>>14004
Actually, now that I recall, the first time I checked at 8:30, the gold card was on the corpse. At 12:15, it was gone. Unless anyone would like to fess up now, which is highly advisable, I can see no reason why anyone would want to take it other than to ruin the investigation if the doors are deactivated. It may be early to point fingers though, as this is a minor discrepancy.

>>14016
But, if I may ask bluntly, I also witnessed unknown behavior to myself during the investigation period. As a reminder, a crucial period of grave importance where lives are at stake. Understanding that much, would you be ever as so kind to inform me of the reason for doing so? Kazuichi, you left to your room at the height of the investigation. This was directly before I reexamined the corpse for the gold card, which turned out to be inexplicably missing.
There were also numerous people missing from the room during the investigation. Though Kirigiri was able to track down the alleged murder weapon, I’m just wondering how the investigation was spearheaded on a person by person basis when it was decided when the group would split up. I apologize for being out of the loop, but I believe the whereabouts of each person during the investigation, and the locations where clues were not found, are just as important as the those details and actual clues during the time of the murder."

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>>14019
"Hold up. Why could he not been killed in the dorm area? His room sure, but that's only part of the dorm.

Is it because of the dirt on the clothing? He could have gotten that during the day. Actually was it even dirt? What does "dirty" mean?"
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"....?! A cleaver?"


Evidence Bullet: Souda's Testimony.

"I checked the kitchen shortly after we got here, and, well, I noticed that a knife and a cleaver were missing then! I checked at about 11:40, so the culprit must have entered the kitchen before then, right?!

As for why I left the room, Ozaki he said he had everything figured out after I helped him with the generator. I figured I'd only get in the way and tamper with the crime scene, but it seems plenty of others here didn't feel the same way."

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>>14021
"What else does it mean? There was dirt on his clothes. Likely meaning her was dragged to his room.. And, this was noticeably dirty.. Perhaps it was near an area with damp soil? It
definitely explains the bloodied clever I found on the shore."
>>14020
"I investigate alone, albeit I might ask a few people I trust to look for things for me. I only investigate and find clues myself. Unfortunately.. I didn't have enough time to find all the clues I could use for this investigation.."
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>>14022
"That is...highly likely. Did you find anything else?"
(Woops, accidentally made another post x.x)

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>>14022
"How do we know they were ever there in the first place?"
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>>14025
"There's a magnetic knife rack in the kitchen, so the spaces where they should have been were kinda obvious. I didn't find anything else, but I do know of at least two people that beat me to the kitchen that morning. Mion left just after I got there, and she told me that she'd seen Kirigiri entering just before her. Of course, I've got nothing back this up other than Mion's testimony, I'm afraid..."

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>>14023
"Going from the evidence it's more likely they threw the cleaver in the lake to hide the evidence.

So you are sure this was soil right? And not something one would find in the hallway or floor? It just seems like he could have gotten dirty in more ways than one.

Besides, it would make more sense for the murder to have happened inside the dorms, which is the only reason I'm against it. Kazuichi actually made a suggestion regarding the generator that makes it apparent. It also coincides with a theory already suggested.

Why don't you tell them Kazuichi? You know, what you said after I asked you to investigate the generator."
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>>14026
"Just because there was spaces doesn't mean anything was there at the start. Unless someone saw those spaces filled at one point there is no proof anything was ever placed there during the times we have been at this camp."
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>>14026
"...Odd. I went to see if anyone was there.."
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"Oh, right! Well, all the doors here have electric locks on them, right? So, if the power goes out, everyone's doors unlock. Now, usually that would last for ten minutes or so until the backup generator comes online, but with the generator in Drosselmeyer's room, you could cut the power, then use that to turn it back on and make a short blackout of a few seconds. I didn't think of it at first, but if the gold card was on Drosselmeyer's body when you found it, that makes this a closed room, right? So the generator would have been key in setting it up! You could cut the power, go in and kill someone, then leave and trigger the generator from a distance!

...As for you, Victoria, heard of Occam's Razor? The simplest solution is usually the correct one. If you think I'm wrong, then where do you think the cleaver came from? Got an answer simpler than the kitchen?

Finally, Kirigiri, this is important, so please answer honestly. Did you take a knife from the kitchen before 11:40?"

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>>14030
"...No, I did not take the clever. I swear on it. On top of the fact that.. I already have a sharp weapon on me, a saw to be specific. It is in my backpack if you want to check. I already had a weapon, so getting a smaller clever would have been redundant."
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>>14030
"Right, that is the clue here. I'm fairly confident that is how they were able to commit the crime."
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>>14032
"...Ozaki, this may seem like an odd question... But would you happen to know who 'Nessy' is?"
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>>14034
"Isn't that a nickname for the loch ness monster?"
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>>14030
"Someone brought it with them. Both our cases have 1 assumption. Yours is a knife existed there. Mine is someone brought it. Both are simple and logical."
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"... Not the cleaver, a knife. There was a knife missing as well at that time that I can't account for in my theory unless you took it. I mean, I could be wrong, but...

Victoria, you're saying that in this camp that has been tailored to us specifically, there just so happens to be two separate gaps on that strip without any explanation? This morning, there were barely any knives left. Everyone's been arming themselves. I don't see why you're so dead-set against the idea of the cleaver being taken from the kitchen!

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>>14035
"I'd also like to shed light on something... Yesterday, at 9 P.M.. I spied on both you and Phillip on my way to the cafeteria. I heard you both talk about a table with the words 'WILL WAS HERE...' on it. After you decided to go back to your room, Phillip went to go spy on you off trail, I followed both of you and spied on him in return.. Mind you, he came in through the cafeteria. All of those actions were highly suspicious.."
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>>14030

"Inversely, to apply Occam's razor here, I'm just a little confused. The generator was found in Drosselmeyer's room... I'm having a hard time here... so the culprit somehow switched on the generator remotely to escape or to enter? Isn't it just simpler if the body was killed outside, the gold card used to enter, and a key not required to escape? Or maybe I just didn't investigate the door close enough..."

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>>14026
Evidence Bullet: Mion's Testimony.

"When I was with the group, it was taking a lot of time so I went to get food at the cafeteria. That's when I saw Kirigiri get out of the door. I went inside and saw that the knife base was not complete. After that, Souda came in from the back door. Since I found this strange I told him about it."

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>>14038
"Hmm if I remember correctly that all happened before Night Time. So if you really want to press an issue unrelated to the crime then go for it. I'll just need specific questions since I don't see what you can even gain from it."

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>>14041
"...Of course, I wanted to inform you of this before I asked you the following..
When exactly did you talk to Souda about these generators? Was it last night?"
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>>14042
"...Actually, it was at the crime scene. As soon as I got there Ozaki asked what I could make of the generator, why it was there, and how it could be used. He said it was key to the investigation. As soon as I finished tinkering with it and gave him an answer, he left. Oh, time was, that was between 10:30 and 11:30, I kinda took my time with it."

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>>14042
"It was when I investigated the crime scene.
I was a bit stumped on my theory since I couldn't get the generator to work, so I asked him to mess around and give his ideas. It's a good thing I asked him too, it really helped."
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>>14043
"...Fu, darn it.. But something here is not right.. But a puzzling question would be how something like a generator could have been moved all the way to Drosselmeyer's room? It's too heavy to lift by normal means, and I went to check on the generator in the actual generator room during the investigation... It was off when I first found it."
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>>14045
"T-the generator was off? ... I mean, okay, but why is that a problem? I mean, so long as the generator in Drosselmeyer's room was running when the main one was shut down, I don't see a problem.

Wait, what if the generator was one of the items Drosselmeyer brought with them to the island, and Monobear left it in his room? That works, right?"

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>>14045
"Well they could have just used an appliance dolly right?

But anyway that was interesting, the fact it was off. That makes it more obvious this method was used to bypass the electronic locks.

Anyway, just to show my hand, last night I saw Victoria Mion, Rika and Rudolf chatting in Victoria's room. I saw Rudolf go to sleep shortly after, but I didn't know about the rest so I made a follow up in the morning.

What I found is that there was in fact a power shortage, or rather the lights flickered for a moment during the night. Rika, Mion, and Victora can testify to that."

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>>14046
"...I find that hard to believe. But...you mentioned there being a backup generator? Could it be that...perhaps the one in Drosselmeyer's room is the backup generator..?"
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>>14045

"Oh, this may explain my confusion. Are we sure this is the same generator as the one in the Garbage Disposal Facility? It was on when I checked for it around 6:00 pm.

Did anyone by any chance check if it was missing? For some reason that didn't cross my mind."

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>>14048

"I don't think so. Y'see, I was worried something like this might happen, so I asked Monobear about the specifics of how things would happen if there was a power outage, y'know, so I could prepare. He specifically said that the backup generator was far away and unreachable for any of us."

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>>14047
"Yeah it was really interesting, the lights flickered on and off a few times. Before everything went dark for a few minutes."
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>>14050
"That just makes this more confusing.. There were two generators then?"
Wait a minute..
Evidence Bullet: Monobear and Ozaki.
"...I remember being at the Garbage Disposal Facility before.. I came across it with Kedgeworth when I heard Monobear talking with...Ozaki. He told Ozaki about the generator, and how it was only good enough to power that quadrant of the campsite.."
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>>14052
"Right it was the same generator you were talking about. Nothing too special.

You know, thinking about it there was one room in the museum Rudolf and I could not get into. Maybe the backup generator was in there. Shame we can't explore it now."
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Anyway for alibis I assume most people were sleeping right?

The only people I know who stayed up later than I was Mion Victoria, Rika and maybe Rudolf. Of course someone could have been out of their room at the time but they were the only people who who were moving/talking with their light on in their rooms. I'll post the rest of the follow up I did in the morning.

Testimonies:

Mion: "I left the room not long after that. I went directly to my room. I went before Rika so that should be around 11:30."
Mion: "Now that you mention it, it's true that the lights went off before midnight."

Rika : "Mion-chan left for her room first, not long after you did...I'm not sure exactly what time it was, though. Then I left not long after her."

Victoria: "I don't remember the times. Mion left and then later Rika left."
Victoria: "Mion left and then a while later the lights did that. It was so cool. And then Rika left shortly after I think, or was it a while after. For some reason it is like I don't know."

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>>14053

"Was it only you and Rudolf that entered the Museum together that you recall? Not that I'm implying anything. And, what sort of problem did you have getting the back-up generator? Room locked?"
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>>14053
"Still...where could an extra generator come from? That doesn't make much sense.."
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"I have been wondering... Ozaki, what were you doing in the generator room when I came to talk to you with Victoria? I heard a *thud* from the inside before you opened the door."

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>>14055
"Well I still don't know if there was one in there, but each door(there were four) seemed to be lock. They may have just been blocked by something though I'm not too sure."

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>>14057
"... I was actually listen to you guys talking, and I was going to kick the door down to startle you....... however I forgot which way the hinges went and simply ended up kicking the door..."

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>>14053
>>14056
"A shame, indeed! But let me make it clear, that room does not have a generator! It's as Kirigiri and Souda said. Two generators; one in the Garbage Disposal Facility, and one in another quadrant of the campsite. ...This one which was found at the crime scene shouldn't exist, yet here it is...!"
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>>14060
"Oh so it was probably brought by one of the campers then. Monobear just put it in the room since it wouldn't fit into a backpack."

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>>14054

"Like I said, I was kinda paranoid that someone was gonna use a power outage to make their attack, so I was in my room tinkering from 4:30 onwards."
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>>14060

"I wonder if this generator was brought here then by one of us. I brought a hand-crank generator that I think Rudolf still has... but I'm not sure if those are the same either since it's been a while that I got a look at it, and well--It's a hand-crank generator."
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>>14062
"Yeah, I too was worried about that outcome upon discovering the area. After I had clarified by asking Monobear about it it seemed even more dangerous.

In the end he got himself killed trying it so it probably wasn't the best idea afterall."

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>>14060
"Hm...still, how could the culprit know this?"
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((I.. was asleep. Or I'd have cleared this up a long time ago.))
"I assumed both Ozaki and Lucas saw this, or at least heard me say that I'm taking the card. I'm the one who took the Gold Card. I thought I needed it to unlock the door, unless it was already unlocked when I used it and then pushed the door open. And if you're wondering, I haven't touched anything else. If I had, at least one of the other two would have noticed. (("Okay we need to bring everyone in here. I'll be taking the gold key from Drosselmeyer's corpse. We need everyone to be here before the trial starts. We don't have a second to waste."
I take the gold card and head out to the cafeteria through the rooms door.))

As for his card specifically, I'm curious about his Active Skill. Did anyone see him around the rose garden area? Specifically near the Gazebo. He could have been there trying to interpret the 'WILL WAS HERE' text.

And, Krigiri, the shore you're talking about, did it happen to have a canoe?

As for the generator, the only thing I noticed was that it was plugged into an outlet when we entered.

As for what Lucas said, at around 7:30AM as I was making breakfast, I noticed that some knives were clearly missing. And I know they were there before as I saw them around 12:20PM the day before while I was making coffee.

Finally, does anyone want to start with the actual alibi's now? Unless you want to wait for Blake and Phillip."

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>>14066
"Yes, actually...there was a canoe. Why do you ask?"
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"Ah. I passed by that area around 11:00PM last night. I didn't notice anything strange from a distance, not that I went all the way there to observe carefully. After I noticed it, I continued down the western trail which I was following and then went back to the dorm when I reached a dead end. My point is, that until around 11:10PM, no one was at the shore. Now the time of the death is stated to be 11:45PM. So the culprit and the victim would only have around 30 minutes or so to get there and for the culprit to kill the victim. If we assume that the murder took place there.

If I were to continue this line of reasoning, I'd need some alibis."
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>>14068
"I was in my room sleeping, I don't know if anyone can actually testify, but I went to sleep at around 10 P.M..."
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"I went to sleep around at around 11:30. Just like Kirigiri, no one saw me do that."
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>>14068
"Rika and I were together in my room at 11:45, and Mion had just left shortly before at around 11:30 or so. Assuming it took place by the lake, I don't think any of the three of us could have possibly done it."
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>>14068

"I went to my room a little after 6:00 pm to sleep early, after investigating the Garbage facility area. I woke up sometime in the middle of the night, but then realized it was too early and finished up on my reading until I fell back asleep.

Not exactly an alibi, but I was in my room until ~7:00 am."

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Kirigiri, can I ask you a question?

When you entered the kitchen, did you notice a knife and/or cleaver missing?
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Oh right, as for alibi, I was in Victoria's room until around 11. Ozaki will agree, as I caught him snooping around the hallway around 11. We both then went into our respective rooms. I went to sleep shortly thereafter
>> No. 1658 edit
>>14073
"I did not enter the kitchen then... I simply headed out the backdoor."
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"Just thought I'd put this out there. I don't see any reason why any of you need to hide your thoughts right now. The 'innocents' should put up any theories they have and the rest of us could help build it up while the ONE culprit would try to distort the facts. But I'm sure we'd be able to see what we can clearly believe and what still requires evidence. For example, I can safely assume that 3 people here aren't the culprits, if they confirm Victoria's alibi.
By the way, telling us when you last saw Drosselmeyer might help too. I last saw him around 7:00PM in the dorm's hallway.

Rika, could you tell us if you used your active in any other rooms?"
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"Kirigiri, I must say I'm a little confused on something. You should you found the bloody cleaver washing up on shore. Don't things like that come off when they come in contact with water?"

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>> No. 1661 edit
>>14075
Mion can you testify that you did not run into Kirigiri inside or whilst entering the kitchen?
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>>14076
I think that way of thinking is naive. Almost all of the alibi's will just be "I was sleeping".

This is a courtroom after all, you need to prove who is most likely rather than who did not.

However theories should be welcome, I do agree with that.

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"Also something else, the time stated it happened was 11:45 right? But the lights went off at around 11:30. Doesn't that mean the lights going out was to get into Drosselmeyer's room, or something else rather than exit it?"

"Oh and Mr Cute Two-Toned Bear I have a question for you. If you are in the hallway and someone inside a room you are nearby makes noise would you be able to hear them. I remember Ozaki implying he heard our conversation out in the hallway so I was wondering about that."

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>> No. 1664 edit
>>14075
>>14078
Not even necessary:


Evidence Bullet: Mion's Testimony.

"When I was with the group, it was taking a lot of time so I went to get food at the cafeteria. That's when I saw Kirigiri get out of the door [to the kitchen]. I went inside and saw that the knife base was not complete. After that, Souda came in from the back door. Since I found this strange I told him about it."


This post tells me all I need to know.

The order of people entering is not exact, but I can with a certain degree of exactness that Kirigiri entered before Mion and Souda, and that Mion and Souda entered before me.
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"Ozaki, if we manage to get everyone, including the culprit to give us a lot of details, eventually they might just slip up. Now I'm not saying that they're stupid, but the things they say might contradict what another person might say.
As I said earlier, this wasn't the only question that I was going to ask, I have a lot more incoming. And I think that we've almost managed to confirm at least Victoria's and Rika's alibis after asking them about it, as rule number 6 dictates that A “culprit” who kills a fellow camper will graduate the camp. However, they must not let any other camper know they are the culprit. The more information, the better."
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>>14080
"Actually I think those are two different things. 11:30 was just around when they returned to the room. 11:45 was when the killing blow must have been dealt."

>>14082
"I see your point." ((To be fair though in a game such as this it may be harder to do so.))
>> No. 1667 edit
"Victoria, I asked the bear the same question, he told me the that the walls in the dorm room at least, are soundproof."
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>>14080
"Upupupu, someone else asked the same thing yesterday... 'These rooms are soundproof, so even if you shot a gun or screamed for help, no one could come to your rescue. That's the kind of despair this place has.' was my answer. Is that good?"
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>>14085
"Yep, thank you so much!"

"Ozaki, how did you know what we were talking about then?"

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>> No. 1670 edit
>>14085
How about the floors? The rooms have carpet in them, but I don't remember about everywhere else. Is it carpet in the hallway? Cafeteria? Kitchen? It's must harder to remove blood from carpet than just wiping it off on tile or hardwood...
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"Wait, couldn't the corpse have been brought at any time, even after 12? They don't really need the electricity to go off to be able to enter or leave the room if they have Drosselmeyer's Gold Card on them."

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>>14087
"The cafeteria and kitchen have tiled floor. The hallway is carpeted just like the rooms!"
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>>14086
"What do you mean?"

"Oh wait, that is because I asked them in the morning."

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>>14090
"Last night when Rudolf opened the door and saw you out in the hallway you said 'Yes... ... people should be sleeping right now. Everyone else has their lights off. I was worried that you guys were planning something but it seems your conversation is civil enough. You should get some sleep, night.'"
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>>14091
"I guess you could say it was a bluff. I was trying to spy on you so I said the first thing that made me less suspicious in case you guys were planning to kill or something."

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"Ozaki, you can't plan to kill with anyone other than yourself, if I understand the rules correctly. Am I right, bear? Or does it mean that even if the culprit tells a few people that he's committed the murder, that still doesn't go against the rules of him graduating unless he's found guilty after the votes are counted?"
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>>14094
"The culprit's victory will be determined by the votes. However, what kind of stupid culprit would tell other people? And there is no reason for an accomplice to help. After all, only the culprit will walk away alive if they win. Any accomplices will be killed along with the rest of the innocents if the culprit is not accused at the end of the trial, upupupu!"
>> No. 1681 edit
"That's what I thought. Just confirming."
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"I don't understand, what was the point of the lights going out?"
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>>14088

"That's what I was saying. Although, what purpose would the generator have then? If we go by Rika's ability alone to find evidence, I'd like to think it has something to do with the murder at hand.

It seems we have two alternate theories, unfortunately I don't see them any closer to finding who actually committed the murder. Though I'd like to ask Mr. Monobear the location of the bathroom compared to the generator, as the shower head was facing the door. Seeing as some "tinkering" was needed because Ozaki couldn't get the generator to work, perhaps the water hit it somehow and the culprit cleaned up after? Not exactly solving anything important though, just assuming everything is a Chekhov's Gun, since I still don't have much of a clue myself."
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>>14100
((A crime scene map, I really should have made it earlier. My fault.))

"Does this answer your question? ...The shower head is on the left side of the rectangle, so it's at a weird angle."
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"Also I have two other things. The lights went out at 11:30 if we assume that at that point the culprit went into Drosselmeyer's room. Doesn't that mean there is too big of gap between death and went they enter. Even if they get into a fight a 15 min one seems strange even more so if one of them has a cleaver.

Also Mion you left my room almost right before the lights went out. Did you see anything in the hallway, or hear anything? Where were you when the lights went out, were you in your room? Or did you have to find your way back in the dark?"

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>>14100
"Or it could just be a red herring. Not that I'm dismissing it as that but if we're going to believe Rika and her skill, and if we also believe that the bathroom can be considered a part of the entire room, then it doesn't look like a real clue."
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>>14081
That's when I saw Kirigiri get out of the door [to the kitchen].

"I'm sorry Rudolf, I saw her going out of the cafeteria door that leads to the corridor. I can't say for sure if she took something or not, it could be anyone that left the group at the beginning and rushed to the cafeteria."


>>14102
((I just wrote go back to my room.))

"I wish I could be more useful. No I didn't see anything suspicious in the corridor. When the
lights went off I was already inside of my room."

>>14103
"I can confirm Rika's ability if that can help."

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>>14104
"Confirm it how? Have you seen her Gold Card? So, you, Rika and Victoria were together till 11:30?"
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"Yes that is correct. Rika and I know of each other card. I left just a minute or 2 before 11:30 as I reached my room by 11:30."

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"...All I've got left to contribute now is my theory, really. You know my alibis, I've told you what I can about the generator, and I didn't do much else in the way of investigating, so here we go!

The murder weapon was the cleaver, and a cleaver was missing from the kitchen at 11:40 a.m. That means the culprit was someone who entered before 11:40 a.m! The only people I know who could have arrived there before then were Kirigiri, Mion, and maybe Ozaki. Mion only mentioned the knife being missing to me, not the cleaver, and asked me to meet her later to talk about it. Thinking it was a trap, I've avoided her as best I can since we got here.

So yeah, I think the culprit is one of those three! It's not much to go on, but it's a start!"
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"Whaaat, then you are also in the culprit list you know.

Stop being so suspicious about it. I pointed the knife base to you to show that something was weird with it.

What happened is that a spoon replaced one of the knife. When I wanted to inspect it you entered the room and I told you about it. I just said, if you have any idea who took it we can talk later about it since I wanted to be with the group when they reached my door for the inspection. Why would that be a trap?"
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"As for my theory, I can't really point any fingers right now. Firstly, it's very likely that the cleaver was the murder weapon, but then there's the other facts.
1. If the murder happened at the shore, the killer could have easily thrown the cleaver into the water where it wouldn't be found.
2. If he/she did throw it into the water and it somehow managed to get washed onto the shore, there should have been no blood left on it, as Victoria suggested.
But another fact remains, there was blood on it.
Another fact, the murder could not have taken place in the victims room. ((Thought I'd summarize))
As for the generator being a clue, other than for using it to cut the power to get in and/or out of the room, I don't see how else it could have been used.
I don't really have much else to go on right now." ((Still waiting for a few others to speak up))

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"Well, you got a lot of information to work with. Sadly I can't contribute any unknown facts, only got a look at the crime scene like everyone else.

As for alibis, mine's pretty bad as well. I think the last time I was with someone else yesterday was in the rose garden shortly before 7 PM. Kedgeworth should remember. After that I just checked out the lake and the dead end to the west and went back to my room before 10 PM.
So yeah, pretty useless.

Now regarding theories, I agree with most of what has been said.

>>14109
I think it's unlikely the murder actually happened at the shore. Well, it might have, but it seems risky and pointless to drag the corpse all the way back to his room instead of just throwing it in the lake. Unless they were willing to take that risk just to mess with us.
The shore was probably just used to hide the murder weapon, which failed for some reason. Either the water just wasn't in the murderer's favor or the blood was left on it on purpose. I can see it going wrong if they wanted to dispose of it too quickly and the blood was already dry.

The corpse was moved, but from where? I didn't check if the shower head was fixed in place, but if it is the explanation for the unnatural position might be that the murder happened in the bathroom and they cleaned the blood away using the shower? Well, no. Now that I think about it, that's impossible. An announcement paper in my room said no water comes out of the shower during nighttime. In other words, the shower was pretty much useless after 10 PM. Maybe they forgot that fact and tried to do something with it anyway before they realized it didn't work?

So yeah, with that possibility cleared the murder most likely happened somewhere else. Could've been in someone's room. Somewhere we wouldn't be able to spot the blood. That means the mess in the room was just the killer searching it, not a fight.

Going by what everyone did at night, there's little in terms of solid alibis. The most helpful thing so far seems to be Souda noticing the missing cleaver, narrowing down immensely who could've even taken the likely murder weapon..."
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>>14110
"Yes, I remember we searched the rose garden together around that time.
As for the person just searching the room, I doubt he'd flip a table over just to do that."
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>>14107
BGM: http://tindeck.com/listen/nhvh
"Upupupu, finally you bastards start making theories! Have someone reconstruct the crime, and tell them 'you've got that wrong!' if there is contradicting evidence! That's the best way to find the truth in this game!"

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"The victim was killed at the shore at 11:45PM with a cleaver. The cleaver was then left at the shore. The body was then dragged back to the dormitory sometime after that when there was no one around. The door was unlocked with the victims Gold Card. The body was left in the room till it was discovered the next day."
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>>14113
"But that doesn't take the generator into account, right?"
>> No. 1698 edit
"Add to it."
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>>14115
"There are too many unknowns here to be sure. Was the generator in the room from the start? If so, why, and how did the culprit know about it? If not, how did it get in there? ...But I suppose it doesn't matter. We can assume that the generator was somehow used to cause a powercut, temporarily unlocking everyone's doors. Then, after the culprit left the room and the power came back on, the locks reactivated, shutting Drosselmeyer's card inside a closed room.

That said, none of this really helps to narrow down the suspects, does it? We might be better off focusing on the fact that the cleaver was gone by 11:40 AM. Most of us were still all in one group at that point...If I remember correctly, weren't Kirigiri, Kazuichi and Ozaki the only people who had separated from the group? Wouldn't that make them the only possible suspects, unless I missed something?"
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"Wait, wait, wait. You can't lock the door from inside the room and then leave for it to close on its own? Something like an autolock maybe? Considering how the doors can only be opened with a specific gold card, that's what I assumed."
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>>14117
"Ah, sorry I forgot to mention earlier... Yes, your doors all automatically lock. Good thing too, because most of you said nothing about locking your doors after leaving! Wouldn't want someone to just sneak in, right...?"

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>>14118
"...Huh, really? ...Well, that's odd. That means there was absolutely no need to cause a power outage. Then what on earth was the point of the generator? I don't get it..."
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"Now what purpose could the generator serve..?"
>> No. 1704 edit
>>14119
((Didn't see that. My bad.))
>> No. 1705 edit
"The death wound is a stab wound to the face. Cleaver's do not stab, they're a bladed -- not pointed -- implement designed for cutting and chopping. Unless somebody got really, really creative with the use of the cleaver on the face to make it seem like a stab and not a slash wound, or alternatively everybody -- and the official report -- have miraculously failed to discern between the two types of slash wounds ... it seems highly improbable that the cleaver is the murder weapon, blood or not."
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"Maybe the culprit saw the generator through the window beforehand, and thought it was a good time waster for the trial period if they turned the power on and off...A red herring as Kedgeworth put it.

But something that bugs me is that I don't think everyone went into the junkyard generator room to have knowledge to cut the power, so we can list some people who went there the previous day. Kirigiri, Kedgeworth, Ozaki, Mion, Victoria, myself... anyone else I'm forgetting?

From that list, we also have Kazuichi's list of those who went into the kitchen before the knives went missing---"Kazuichi, Kirigiri, Mion, and maybe Ozaki"

So Kirigiri, Mion, and Ozaki... I think it would benefit you all to start giving reasons for your innocence."

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>> No. 1707 edit
MONOBEAR FILE: The victim is Drosselmeyer. The time of death was around 11:45 PM. The body was found in his room. Cause of death is a wound to the face made by a sharp object. Other than that, there are traces of damage to the head and right leg.
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>>14123
"..When I used that term I was referring to the shower head, not the generator as Rika's ability proves that it's important.
I guess it's now time to point fingers. I'm with Lucas. The four of you need to prove your innocence."
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>>14125

"Oh, right. Sorry. Well, importance is relative anyway. As long as it has something to do with the power being cut and then going back on quickly due to the generator, thus

1.) offering the culprit the ability to enter the room or

2.) allowing the culprit to remain unseen when the dormitory area is dark and they're dragging the body, (Actually, I may have to scratch that, the time when the power was cut was before the time of death, at least from what people are saying). Perhaps instead it caused outside to turn dark in an unlit area and the culprit was able to kill them more stealthily. Was the shore area lit up Kedgeworth?

it might not be as crucial as we think past that."

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>> No. 1710 edit
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"... I visited the generator room myself, but I only went down there looking for tools. Mion helped me find a spanner and a screwdriver with her torch, then I left to try and find some salvage in the scrap yard.

I guess outside of that, all you can do is take me at my word that I've been working and fixing things in my room since then. Devil's proof, as weak as it is, works here, doesn't it? No-one will have seen me since 4p.m. or so until this morning, so you can't prove I didn't spend all that time in my room.

That aside, like Kirigiri, I've got my own weapon. After I saw the cleaver and the knife were missing, I grabbed a knife myself. I've got the damn thing here as proof!

Finally, Rika, at around 11:30 to 11:40, who was with you in the hallway? I know I split off from everyone, as did Ozaki, Kirigiri, and Mion, but I'm wondering if maybe there was someone else who got ahead of all of us. If we're pointing fingers now, we'd best make sure we've got a full list of potential subjects, y'know?!"

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>>14126
1.) The victim should have had his Gold Card on him at all times. The killer could have used it to enter and exit his room with ease.
2.) Well, maybe the victim was simply tinkering with the generator and the killer knew that, so they waited until the lights eventually went off and then snuck into the victim's room and then knocked him unconscious and then dragged his body outside..
But I think we should stop thinking about the 'how' and more on the 'who' since we don't have much else to go on.
>> No. 1712 edit
"Considering that the generator in Drosselmeyer's room could power the dorms, the primary generator could be deactivated and that generator would assume control of the electrical grid."

"In addition, the generator is far too bulky to realistically move around without alerting anyone. Moreover, since we had items arbitrarily distributed throughout our rooms, it stands to reason that somebody brought the generator and it wound up in Drosselmeyer's -- honestly, I'd posit that it was him and he just luckily got it in his room."

"Finally, we know that power control was usurped for a few minutes prior to Drosselmeyer's death."

"Drosselmeyer - or anyone with access to his room - could, therefore, deactivate the dormitory locks and then reactivate them shortly after; presumably without alerting anyone."

Philip just continues sitting there, looking passive and ambivalent. "... I really wish I had my nail file back," he adds with sorrow, gazing longingly down at his nails with a lot more concern than he's giving to the trial at this stage.
>> No. 1713 edit
>>14129
"Where did you read that it was a stab wound?"
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>>14127
"What on earth are you working on in your room that require a screwdriver and spanner, if you don't mind me asking?"
>>14129
"And Philip, do you have some sort of Alibi? Including your whereabouts during the day with your spying?"
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"Mr Monobear, would a power outage effect anything by the shore such as lights? Are there lights outside to guide your way?"
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>>14132
"Ah... Yes, that's right! Some of you who left the building at night may recall some lights along the trail. The generator from the Garbage Disposal Facility also powers those lights.... It powers anything electrical in this quadrant!"
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>>14133
"Is there a path of lights that lead to the lake?

Also Kirigiri, when you were around the shore did you see any kind of blood anywhere aside from the cleaver? If the murder took place by the lake, wouldn't blood be around, or when they dragged them back. Did they seriously clean all the way back to the room, that seems silly and a huge waste of lots of time."

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>>14134
"Upupupu... There is a trail, but it's not too close to the lake. One would need to veer off the trail to approach the water and canoe."

((Path, trees, and lake are displayed on the map.))

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((That reminds me.. Monobear called us all to the crash site right after I tried heading to the canoe area.. *sigh))
"Kirigiri, where exactly did you find the cleaver?"
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>>14135
"What would be the point of turning the lights off to commit the crime by the lake. Even if the it would to obscure someone from watching it take place at the lake. The lights came back before 11:45. So in other words someone would still would have seen it."
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>>14131
"Well, I was trying to fix an Xbox one I found in the scrap yard, but it's a lost cause... Jokes aside, I was planning on screwing and bolting a metal plate over my window frame, but then I asked Monobear about the locks, and realized if one of you wanted me dead, you'd just cut the power and come through the door. I then thought about bolting and screwing a metal plate over the door frame... But you can see why that's a bad idea."
>> No. 1722 edit
"Alibi? Well, during the day I was skulking around and exploring, evidently not as stealthily as I had hoped. I went to bed at 10 pm, however, just after Night Time."

"For the record, my theory is that Drosselmeyer utilised the power grid to deactivate the locks, then entered someone's room, and attempted to commit murder. There are signs of a struggle on his person but not in his room. It seems fairly obvious to me that he attempted to kill someone and failed. I'd assume that the actual killer -- or defendant, I suppose, if you grant that Drosselmeyer brought his demise upon himself -- would have some sign of a struggle in their person, as well." He then pauses a moment, and cracks a grin, chuckling a bit, "Though the killer may not have any marks if Drosselmeyer wasn't a particularly effective combatant or let himself get caught off guard, hah, during his own attempted crime."
>> No. 1723 edit
"Your theory doesn't explain the blood trail."
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>>14140
"There was a blood trail?"
>> No. 1725 edit
"Refer to what Monobear said last, Victoria."
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>>14142
"I think Mr. Monobear was talking about the trail of lights, not blood."
>> No. 1727 edit
>>14142
((Er, not a blood trail. A path of dirt and lights near the lake, coming from the dorm.))

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>> No. 1728 edit
((My bad.))
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>>14139
"....Wait, what if the mess in Drosselmeyer's room was the culprit faking the scene of the crime, trying to make it look like there had been a struggle?! That makes sense with Phillip's theory! Man, I'm good at this."
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>>14146
"It seems more like someone was looking for something. Rather than signs of a struggle."
>> No. 1731 edit
"Why would someone flip a table while searching for something?
A little more than a day has passed. We need to slow down with the 'how'"
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>>14148
"Likewise why would you open drawers in the middle of a struggle?"
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"I thought that too. It looks like a mixture of both, probably made to look like that by the culprit. If Dosselmeyer's room hadn't looked like it could've been the crime scene on first glance, we might've gone off checking everyone's rooms and discovering where the crime really took place. The culprit couldn't have known how much time Monobear would give us to investigate, after all. In Philip's theory that'd mean Drosselmeyer snuck up on someone, using the generator to enter their room, just to get counterattacked with the cleaver that person took earlier. The culprit then dragged Drosselmeyer back to his room.
If we go with that theory, the culprit would be someone who had a chance to take the cleaver and who was alone in their room at the time of the blackout..."
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"Kedgeworth's right. We should focus on the who aspect of the case right now. Until Rika can tell us how her group moved between 10:30 and 11:30, the suspects are me, Mion, Kirigiri... and Ozaki I think? I've already made my case, so..."
>> No. 1735 edit
"Indeed. Unfortunately I didn't have the time to get much in the way of verifying alibis before the trial started, and I was asleep much too soon to know who might have actually done it."
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>>14151
>>14150
"Assuming Drosselmeyer used to blackout to try and kill someone. Isn't it most likely he went to Kirigiri's and Souda's room or since they are the closest rooms to his own. Why would you try a room far away from yours. The power could come back on before you go in, or someone could leave their room and see him. But I still don't think we should rule out other possibilities we could be really off base with thinking that Drosselmeyer went to someone else's room. Because that would mean he snuck into someone's room and then there is a gap of around 10-15 min before he was killed. Assuming he tried to kill the person's room he entered why did it take so long?"

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>>14153
"Hrm... There's always the possibility that he sneaked into the room of someone who was out at the time, but shortly returned, right? That could account for the gap. don't y'think?"
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>>14151

"I can confirm that Rika was talking to me from those times in the hallway until 12:30 p.m. as everyone was sharing item details. We were all pretty adamant on sticking together until that time. The power of groups, eh?

So that leaves three for now to make their case, Kazuichi already made his. Monobear, can you confirm that he does indeed have the other knife on him that he permitted to reveal?

Although, If I may think out loud for a moment about what was already said, Kirigiri is the one who brought up the alleged murder weapon in the first place... and Mion testified that it was her who showed Kazuichi that the knife base was replaced... I don't see it in their advantage to reveal that, unless they are trying to distort the facts somehow, but I have a hard time believing that."

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>> No. 1739 edit
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"... I've got it. I know who did it!

Mion claimed she didn't notice the cleaver was missing, but then again, she only looked into the kitchen, she never went in herself. It was only when I went in that I realized something else was missing! If Mion never entered, then that leaves us with two possible culprits. But I can go further!

We spent all this time arguing about why the cleaver was dirty despite having been thrown in the lake, and we forgot to turn the chessboard around! The cleaver's still dirty because it was never thrown in the lake! Kirigiri kept it on her after killing Drosselmeyer! We've only got her word that it was even at the lake after all!

... Not bad for a dumb mechanic, huh?"

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"If any of you forgot, I was with the only group that was together from about 10:30AM till about 12:00AM when I left right after Rudolf did to go to the cafeteria."
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>>14156
"Why would she tell us about it if it would make her suspicious."
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"..Souda. Refer to what Lucas said. Why would she bring up the weapon at all if she was the culprit?"
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>>14156

"Was she ever forced to bring this in court though?

I don't see a possible reason for bringing the smoking gun I shot someone with to court if I had it under my possession locked away, even if I took some crazy chance and claimed it was found in the woods. I guess we have to wait for her word, though I suppose it is odd."
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"Ask her, not me. Fact of the matter is, this makes a lot more sense than magic blood that doesn't wash off a murder weapon. Hell, this even fits with Phillip's theory of Drosselmeyer going for one of the rooms closest to his.

As for why she brought it up, a double bluff? By presenting the weapon and claiming she found it, suspicion is diverted away from her, right? What you guys just said is proof of that."

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>>14161

"She was nice enough to include the word "bloodied" in her testimony, and that it washed up. Why... why go so far to put yourself at risk? Why not just say she found a regular cleaver that was suspiciously discarded?"
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>>14161
"Doesn't your theory also make you super suspicious as well. If Mion never saw the clever missing and then you claim it was, the three possibilities are someone beat Kirigiri there, Kirigiri took it, or you took it am I right."
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>>14163
"Yeah, that's right. But I was in the four suspects anyway, so I was gonna come under scrutiny sooner or later. Of course, you could use my logic against me and call this a double bluff...

But still! How else do you explain the blood on the cleaver? Until someone can reel off who was in Rika's group, and we can possibly isolate someone who got to the cafeteria before Kirigiri, this is all we've got!"
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>>14164

"We still have Ozaki. He was the first to leave the group, was he not? And had a chance to visit the generator room... and was searching for a backup generator or something. Why?

Except, just to add to your theory and perhaps disprove the other, Kirigiri's testimony states:

>'No, I did not take the clever. I swear on it.'

So does this affirm that there was in fact a cleaver when she entered the kitchen? Interesting choice of words. Why not just say it was missing? Perhaps she never noticed it, but she could have stated so."

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>>14165
"No it doesn't because she said ""I did not enter the kitchen then... I simply headed out the backdoor.""
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>>14166

"So it's Mion's word against her's then, since she stated Kirigiri was exiting the kitchen. It seems we're getting closer to the truth......"

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>>14167
"Mion never said which door she saw Kirigiri leave from though. Also we can't rule out that someone could have gone to the kitchen before either of them."
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>>14168

"Oh, right. Never mind! I forgot she corrected that."
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>>14168
>>14167
((My bad, but I specified after that since it wasn't clear. >>14104 Also, please remember that the kitchen and cafeteria are 2 separated rooms. I never said anything about kirigiri going out of the kitchen door.))
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>>14170
"Whoa whoa whoa, don't change your tune! When I got to the cafeteria, the kitchen door was open, and you could see the missing knife from there! When I asked if you'd seen Ozaki around then, you pointed to the knife rack and said, "Not Ozaki, Kirigiri." You can't just switch up what you said on me!"
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>>14171
((seriously??))
"Im not switching anything, you are confused with the facts. I'm just trying to clarify. I still can't understand why kirigiri said that she went outside by the backdoor. that doesn't make any sense , since you came inside from that way. >>14075

You are right when you say that. At the time I assumed that she took it since the majority of the group was with me just a minute ago and I saw her going out of the cafeteria. That's also why I wanted to you later about it. To clarify.
But, since it is so important for this case I thought it would be a good idea to say that difference."

((or maybe she went inside a second time. God this is confusing.))

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>>14170
((Okay just to make sure we are clear: I forgot to draw a front door to the cafeteria. Pretend it is on that map.))
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"... Eh? I just... I looked over the court record, and this isn't adding up! Look at Rudolf's Evidence Bullet back at >>14081

"When I was with the group, it was taking a lot of time so I went to get food at the cafeteria. That's when I saw Kirigiri get out of the door [to the kitchen]. I went inside and saw that the knife base was not complete. After that, Souda came in from the back door. Since I found this strange I told him about it."

...If Mion went into the kitchen, as she claimed to Rudolf, then how come she didn't notice the missing cleaver? Damnit, I don't even know who to accuse anymore!"
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>>14173
((By popular demand, an edited/fixed map.))

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>>14174
"That's why I replied to it! Rudolf assumed that it was [to the kitchen] and I never went inside of the kitchen. Also, I never claimed that to Rudolf he took it from my testimony here!"

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>>14176
"... Oh, okay. Right, before I break down again, let's get a timeline up, shall we? Kirigiri enters the cafeteria, alone, and leaves shortly after Mion enters. I'm guessing she left via the corridor entrance, because I entered from the outdoor entrance, and I didn't see her. Mion notices the missing knife from the cafeteria, points it out to me, and I run into the kitchen and notice that the cleaver is gone too. So that leaves us at this;


a)Mystery Person X took the knife before Kirigiri got there, and she took the cleaver.
b)Mystery Person X took the cleaver, and Kirigiri took the knife.
c)There were two Mystery Persons X, and they took both.

Wait, haven't we done this before...?"
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>>14177
>>14176
"Do you think you both can make approximate timestamps of the cafeteria events in order? Just to make a more precise timeline for everyone, if you can remember them that is... Hopefully the amount of time that passes between each event is a little more clear. Surely the other accused can do this as well."

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>>14178
"I arrived at 11:45, and at that time, Mion and I were the only ones in the cafeteria area. Oh, that includes the kitchen (we could see into there), and the pantry (I checked it as soon as I was done in the kitchen)."
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"What are you guys so hung up on anyway?

Immediately after a certain person leaves a room the two remaining people in the room notice the lights flicker.

We already know that is when Drosselfeget went to kill someone, so logically the simplest answer is that the person who just left is the culprit. I mean the culprit would have had to be awake to retaliate after all."
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>>14180
"How dare YOU! Mion wouldn't DARE! There is still a gap of 15 min before death!

What about you! You have been acting strange this whole game. You could have gone to the kitchen before Kirigiri went and taken the cleaver and knife! Also in the morning you and a I quote asked to all three of us at the same time. 'Also did you notice the lights go off at all during the night?' How did you know about that unless you had actually be awake at the time as well."

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>>14181
"Mion said she left AROUND 11:30. And since you could only tell me it happened before Rika left then the time is only an estimate. This works.
Not to mention she could have just been lying to make said gap in time.

None of the evidence or theories brought up during this whole trial even dent this solution. We have to think trial system, and with it Mion is the most likely culprit."

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>>14181
"Right, you guys suspect me, here is the thing. Besides the fact Rudolf saw me go to me room at 11pm. I came here for one thing which I told everyone before this murder business even started.

To solve mysteries.

Even if you can't believe it I would never do something as stupid as rob myself from such entertainment of solving a murder mystery. Making them is a cheap comparison."
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"Now this is interesting. How can you be so sure about it? The gap in the time came from the fact that I said goodnight and only recall the time when I arrived inside of my room."
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>>14182
I glare angrily at Ozaki

"I remember the time frame perfectly. Mion leaves 11:30, lights go out 11:35, come back on 11:40, and Rika leaves right after."
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>>14184
Well disregarding what you say I'll take Victoria's comment into question in order to answer the same thing.

>>14185
Drosselfeget had more than one wound. If they lights went off at 11:35 that would be when he moves. 11:40 he is inside the room, 11:45 Mion kills him after a fight concluded by the multiple wounds.

Besides, lets just use some psychology here. I have been presenting theories and gathering evidence and then same goes for the other suspects, however Mion here has only been defending herself.
While everyone else is trying to save their lives she is just standing by watching."
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"Until Rudolf comes, wait just one moment with your accusation.

You said the follwing when discussing alibis:
>they were the only people who who were moving/talking with their light on in their rooms
How are you able to assume this unless you are outside watching? The rooms are soundproof, and I may have been very well talking to someone when I woke up in the night. It sounds like you said this with such confidence though, which is slightly suspicious.

Just admit it, Droooslemier caught you off guard with the lights when you were spying~"
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>>14187
"I was caught long before the lights went off. At exactly 11.
And the rooms are soundproof, but not entirely. I could hear muffled voices if I pressed my ear directly to the bottom of the door.

If you really want Rudolf can chuckle as he recalls opening the door to see me there laying on the ground."

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>>14186
"(You can take one more action in a series in the same post.) 'Also did you notice the lights go off at all during the night?' You asked Mion, Rika, and myself all this question at the same time. How did you know about that unless you had actually be awake at the time as well?"
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>>14189
"Because I had already found the generator in the junkyard. I had already anticipated this howdunit hours before night time.

Come on now this has already been said."
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>>14186
"That's just an assumption. I know my position in this case. It's true I have been trying to find a way to prove my innocence. It's not because I don't want to help, it's the other way around. I feel like if I give useless theories people might find that suspicious. And it's not like I have been doing nothing, i'm trying to say what I know and not guess accusations like you seem to be doing."

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>>14191
"This was just added fuel. It doesn't matter what it means because I am talking about everything else I have presented as a theory.

You haven't even denied you are the culprit yet. It's like you know you have lost."

Last edited at 13/06/23(Sun)20:43:10
>> No. 1776 edit
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"Right, I did see Ozaki at 11:00. I was leaving Victoria's room, and I happened to see him crouched out on the ground in front of the door. I suspect he was planning something, but his plans were foiled by me having seen him. Either way, he went straight into his room after a short exchange of words between he and I. I then went to my room and went to sleep.

Of course, this does not mean he did not immediately exit his room after I saw him go into his room, but it is evidence that he was in his room at 11:00."
>> No. 1777 edit
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>>14193
Come on Rudolf is that the best you can do? Oh well it's good enough, thanks.

Take this for example, even if I had done that, Drosselfeget was the one killing first. So he would have to go into my room.

However I was a sleep by the time the murder happened. I even blocked off the window and door similar to what Ouro was planned. There was no way for anyone to enter my room that night."

Last edited at 13/06/23(Sun)20:47:02
>> No. 1778 edit
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>>14193

"Alright. Do you think you can tell us what words were exchanged between you and Ozaki for the court? Hearsay evidence is evidence after all."
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>>14192
"Mion didn't hurt anyone stop trying to make everyone believe that! I was with Mion almost all day long! She is a good person! She wouldn't kill anyone! If Mion was the culprit why would she try to get rid of the weapon in the lake! Why not just keep it in her room!"
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>>14194
"How about this, you did it after the crime and are now trying to frame me.
Ive seen your card Ozaki, you can heal anyone if they are not entirely dead. After the fight you healed yourself to cover the struggle."
>> No. 1781 edit
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>>14196
If you recall all the doors were unlocked once investigation started. Not to mention with the generator someone could have just walked in her room and find it.

Anyway I think you are forgetting something, this isn't a fair trial. There is no law, even if it is self defense it will still be judged as a murder."
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>>14195
"So uhhh... whatcha doing there? Spying on us?"

"Yes... ... people should be sleeping right now. Everyone else has their lights off. I was worried that you guys were planning something but it seems your conversation is civil enough. You should get some sleep, night."

He then went into his room.
>> No. 1783 edit
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>>14197
"I can't magically heal myself, only other people. Your theory is as fake as you are innocent."

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>>14198
"Then wouldn't Mion have made sure no one entered her room, since signs of a struggle or the murder would be present there. Didn't someone say they went back to their room right when the investigation started I seem to remember that!"
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>>14198

"That sounds like good reasoning for the culprit! Almost as if.... it was your reasoning?"
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>>14201
"Nobody knew the doors were all going to be unlocked upon finding the body.

Besides you are just rattling off points that only lead to larger issues I have already shown to be impossible for you to deny.

What is so hard for you guys to believe it was Mion?"

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>>14202
I get what you are saying, but regardless of that. Of course it is my reasoning, I've been trying to solve this case after all.

Or rather I have already solved it and you just don't want to accept it because you don;t believe me despite my perfectly sound logically analysis."

Last edited at 13/06/23(Sun)20:58:08
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>>14203
"Yes, because I don't believe lies."
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>>14205
"Says the little girl who believes in monsters."

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>>14204

"Our lives are at stake, perhaps you can understand my hesitation on stopping at one accusation and ending it there. You, Kazuichi, and Kirigiri aren't being let off the leash that easily with that kind of reasoning.

She leaves the room when the lights go out, why does it take her so long to get to her room? Surely the culprit can't magically transport themselves to the dormitory area at 11:35. Why does he choose Mion's room?

Monobear! Can I ask how far the Garbage Disposal Facility is from the dormitory area? Surely this is somehow disclosable."

Last edited at 13/06/23(Sun)21:16:21
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>>14207
"If we take a look at Drosselmeyer's gold card, it says Super Level Playboy. Now this may be just opinion, but that seems like the guy who would try to kill a girl first. That and there just happened to be a group of three girls alone at the time of murder. Not to mention because they are the only ones without windows it makes them a target for an easier murder.

This logic crosses me off, but not Kirigiri. However it makes more sense since the culprit had to be awake in order to kill. Thus we arrive at Mion the most logical answer."

Last edited at 13/06/23(Sun)21:17:33
>> No. 1792 edit
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"Souda I have a question you said "As for why I left the room, Ozaki he said he had everything figured out after I helped him with the generator. I figured I'd only get in the way and tamper with the crime scene, but it seems plenty of others here didn't feel the same way." (Now this is meta but I'm pretty sure the post said you went to your room) Is this correct?"
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>>14207
BGM: http://tindeck.com/listen/zoxy

"...It's a 20-minute walk at minimum."

Last edited at 13/06/23(Sun)21:23:33
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>>14210
"How long does it take to go from the dorm to the lake, and the facility to the lake?"
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>>14208
Ok, I'm a tad bit confused here.

When I entered the cafeteria, at least 3 people had entered before me. Kirigiri, Mion, and Souda; though I'm confused as to whether or not all three of them entered the kitchen from the cafeteria and in what order.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the order as I see it:

1. Kirigiri who also entered the kitchen

2. Mion who also entered the kitchen, whom I saw whilst they were leaving the cafeteria

3. Souda who also entered the kitchen, whom I saw whilst they were leaving the kitchen.

4. Rudolf, myself.

Now I entered the kitchen and made an inventory of all the sharp objects in the room. Three items were missing:
1. A knife
2. A cleaver
3. A knife which had a spoon placed in the knife block to replace it.
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>>14211
"The lake is also a 20 minute walk... I spaced everything equally from the center, you know! I, I sorta have OCD, so it gets to me when things aren't evenly spaced... So it's 40 minutes from the lake to the facility!"
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>>14212
Well Souda admits to one. And if assume Mion is the culprit she probably took the cleaver since it was most likely the murder weapon due to the blood.

...That, and because despite how suspicious it may seem now, I took the last knife and placed the spoon there.

I pull out my knife to show it.

"I took it in case I was attacked. I brought it here in case we needed it to use it prove the culprit. And just a reminder I can heal others, if someone had attacked me I would have just heal them to 1hp and leave them outside of my room."
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>>14214
"When did you take it Ozaki?"
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>>14216
"At 11:00 AM Before anyone I believe because nothing was missing at the time. I saw Kirigiri enter and I left the cafeteria 11:30 AM and she was still there sitting at a table.

Personally I doubt she even took one. Myself, Mion and Souda seem to be the ones who took the knifes."
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>>14217

"Did she at any point ever enter the kitchen?

Wait... Kedgeworth... and I entered the cafeteria at 12:40 p.m. Unbeknownst to us, Kirigiri popped into the conversation, coming from behind after listening to our entire conversation.

When we entered the room, there wasn't anyone else. Perhaps she was hiding somewhere in the pantry... or more suspiciously the kitchen for an hour after you left?

After she came back from leaving the cafeteria around 11:45 I suppose... It doesn't make much sense to me."

Last edited at 13/06/23(Sun)21:59:13
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>>14217
"Just because you took a knife doesn't mean you aren't the culprit. You could easily take two so you could claim 'I already had a weapon why would I take another'"
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>>14218
>>14219
I think she wanted to talk to me.
>Just because you took a knife doesn't mean you aren't the culprit.
Man that isn't something you hear often.

-Anyway

Seriously, you what are your theories then? I just keep continuing to deny your endless questioning, but you are not providing any theories of your own.

Do you think it is me? Do you believe me and think it's Mion? Or have you still not narrowed it down and are just fence sitting? Honestly you keep on trying to get an absolutely perfect answer which denies everyone except for one person, however that is probably not be even possible. I took all the clues and evidence and made it into one solid theory that nobody can seem to denied.

I know you don't want to be wrong, but I don't see any other theories here and you don't either which is why you keep questioning it.
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"All right all right, stop it Ozaki. I get it, you got me."
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>>14221
"No... I refuse to believe it... You're Mion.. my friend... No..."
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>>14221
"Well, then! It seems we have a direct confession! Please cast your votes as soon as possible and we'll get this show on the road!"
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"I'm sorry Victoria, Rika and Rudolf. It was not in my plan to kill someone, but he forced me. There was nothing else I could do than play along even if I knew that it wouldn't work."
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>>14220
"...Congratulations Ozaki, I commend you on your reasoning. I thought I would be the first one to arrive at the truth, but it seems I wasn't as observant as I needed to be.. Thank you for proving my innocence as well."

Last edited at 13/06/23(Sun)22:18:17
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>>14225
Forced you? How so?
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>>14227
"She was attacked.. Likely retaliated and had to kill him or else she would die."
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"The votes are in, and the majority has spoken! You're guilty, Mion! And guess what? That's the right answer!"

BGM: http://tindeck.com/listen/gfer

THE SOLUTION:


Ozaki was the first person to split up from the group. He went straight to his room and then the kitchen, where he swapped a knife with a spoon. Kirigiri saw him leave. On her way out, she saw the culprit entering the room, but said nothing. Once inside the kitchen, the culprit grabbed a cleaver. However, Souda and Rudolf unexpectedly came in. Souda took a knife in secret, and later on Rudolf had confiscated the other knives. The culprit quickly left both of them, returning to the hall. After grabbing the cleaver, the culprit eventually went to their room and placed it inside a dresser drawer.

Meanwhile, Rika and the others were taking inventory. The victim, Drosselmeyer, decided to leave and enter his own room. Inside he found a note from Monobear, as well as five things. One of them, a generator, which he hooked up to the wall. He learned of the generator in the junkyard and devised a plan. When no one was watching, he went there and flipped the generator 'OFF', but because of the generator in his room, the electricity remained on.

Late at night, the culprit had returned to their room. At that moment, Drosselmeyer turned the generator off, and rushed into the culprit's room, intending to kill the culprit. However, during their struggle, Drosselmeyer lost control of their weapon. The culprit reached into the dresser drawer, pulled out the cleaver... and killed him.

An hour later, once the coast was clear, the culprit decided to dispose of the body. They had drained the corpse's blood in the bathtub earlier, so there was no way to leave a blood trail. Then, the culprit took the body out the main entrance, and sat the body in the dirt below Drosselmeyer's window. They then unlocked his room using his key, dragged the corpse in, and created a mess... to make a fake crime scene. Finally, the culprit took all the evidence from their own room, including the cleaver.... and threw it into the lake. Thinking they had gotten away with murder, they went back to their room and slept.

You are the culprit, Mion.


"...Do you have any last words before your execution?"

Last edited at 13/06/23(Sun)23:37:16
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"No last words, good luck to everyone."
>> No. 1815 edit
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"*Sniff* *Sniff* MION!!!"
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>>14231
"The good die young. You were a good one, returning the shovel and all."
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>>14231
"...Your death won't be in vain, do not worry.."
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BGM: http://tindeck.com/listen/xnuc

...Everyone watches as a giant claw comes out of nowhere and grabs Mion by the neck. She's pulled back through the courtroom into a small chute, leading down into...

"Friendship's Just Desserts"

...A giant cooking pot. It's filled with rice. Soft, cushiony, and lots of it. She sits there, wondering what will happen next. Eyes darting about, curious as to what lurks in the surrounding darkness.

BANG! Suddenly the cooking pot curls up into a solid sphere, smashing her into all the hundreds of grains of rice. It shakes violently in all directions, getting hotter and hotter...!

A solid sphere of rice emerges, Mion's head peeking out. The giant rice ball bursts out of the pot, rolling down a giant slope, at higher and higher speeds!!!

Oh no, Mion's headed straight toward a wall... If she keeps going she'll get---

Stabbed.

From below, a giant needle stems out of the ground. It skews the riceball, along with Mion... and a dark red sauce coats the inside of the riceball. One by one, the rice falls apart, leaving the impaled corpse of Mion to rot away.

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>>14235
Victoria collapses to the floor with a horrified look. Tears run down her face as she stares on in silence.

Last edited at 13/06/23(Sun)23:53:10
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>>14235
"..."
Kirigiri silently watches, with an almost eerily deadpan expression. As if she had already seen things like this before, many times..
>> No. 1821 edit
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>>14235
"Death comes to all, to some sooner than others.

Monobear, what now? Will we return to living a communal life only the repeat this until either a failed judgment or one remains?"
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Monobear: "...Well then, the trial is finished. I have three small announcements:

1. The office in the museum has been unlocked, so you may now enter.

2. The gate to the East Quadrant has been unlocked, so you have access to a whole new area.

3. ...The dorm area has been demolished. But because of the Camp Rules, you need somewhere to stay... So please search for the Inn in the East Quadrant. Upupupu...!"


((The game will take a quick break. I'll resume playing sometime on Tuesday. At that time, I'll post an update here telling you return to posting in your respective private boards.))

Also, I feel it's safe to assume everyone still feels like playing, but if you don't want to or otherwise can't, I won't stop you from quitting.

Once you are ready to leave the courtroom you will be taken up to the crash site. After that, you are free to go wherever. It will be 2:00 PM in-game.))
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>>14235
"......"

I turn away and close my eyes. No words would be appropriate. She tried to hide her guilt, even knowing that we would all be killed if we accused the wrong person, but somehow that doesn't make it feel any better. There is no justice in this.

Eventually, I am able to collect my thoughts enough to speak.

"...If anyone else finds themselves in this situation...You must avoid killing your assailant at all costs. Even if you die yourself, at least you won't have to face this. Not just the execution, but the pressure of being suspected and having to lie to everyone to protect yourself from something that wasn't your fault. I can only imagine what this whole ordeal must have been like for her. ...I would feel better knowing that we won't have to deal with a case like this again. ...That is all."
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"Try not to end it with a confession. Not that I particularly enjoy committing crimes, confessions are usually boring."
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"Don't talk about Mion like she is just a form of sick entertainment for you!"
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"I... I... Shit! Kirigiri, I'm sorry I... Gah. I really screwed up. If Ozaki hadn't come in at the end, I could have killed us all with that theory."

Last edited at 13/06/24(Mon)04:16:50
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>>14243
"...I didn't want to think it was Mion. Especially after I saw Phillip sneaking around last night.. It's alright, I would have found the truth eventually. I just would have needed more time to piece things together. I promised myself my hope would not fade while I was here.. I tend to keep that."
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"What with the dorm area destroyed and all, we've probably all lost most of our possessions (except the ones we have with us). Might as well come clean then that I was the one who cleaned out the kitchen's knives. The inventory I had mentioned making was when I took all the knives from the kitchen back into my room. The goal was to keep them from being used as murder weapons, but seems like I failed in that goal....."
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"Speaking of that... Did anyone happen to have a...picture with them? A picture of a boy with a ridiculous looking ahoge..?"
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>>14247
I reply, still looking vaguely distracted and displeased.

"I believe that Kazuichi-san said that he had a picture of someone's boyfriend. I don't know if he actually carried it around with him or just left it in his room, though."

I then look at the floor for a while before speaking up again.

"......Does this...really not bother anyone else? We all just helped to condemn a young girl to death when all she did was get assaulted and try to defend herself......How...how are you all so calm...?"
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"Oh, that thing? Umm... Yeah, I'm sorry about that. Even if Monobear didn't trash all our stuff, I kinda broke the frame for it when I was testing something in my room.

... As for Mion, she knew what she was doing. She took advantage of Drosselmeyer's mistake, and tried to use it to kill all of us! She didn't have to kill him, but she did anyway!"
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"What Souda said. Rika, Mion could have just used the cleaver to threaten the victim. I'm fairly certain that they could have come to an agreement if Mion acted rationally."
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>>14250
>>14251
"Really? That's not what she said. She said she wasn't planning to kill anyone, but she was forced. I'm sure she was just panicking and trying to defend herself. You'd hardly be thinking rationally with your life suddenly and unexpectedly at risk. Are you seriously suggesting that she wanted to kill him? I think you're just telling yourself that so you can feel better about it. Yes, it's easy to assume that everyone who suffers deserves what they get, isn't it? That way there'd be no reason to ever feel bad for anyone. It's not like I don't understand that mindset...But I know more than anyone that the world isn't that simple.

......Anyway, forget I said anything. You all obviously don't care anyway. I don't want to talk to any of you right now. I can see now that Victoria is the only person here who's worth protecting. The rest of you can all die for all I care.

......No, I'm sorry. I'm just doing what I just accused you of. Of course I want you all to live. As if I'm capable of stopping myself from caring about everyone. My life would have been very different if I was capable of that. ......But none of you understand. Just leave me alone. It's all useless anyway."

Last edited at 13/06/24(Mon)12:13:53
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[deleted because this game is getting too mean]

((Yes, Mion wanted to kill, but she didn't want to kill that guy. It's my fault, so I shouldn't rub it into her.))

Last edited at 13/06/24(Mon)12:33:23
>> No. 1836 edit
>>14253
((That's a shame, it might have made for some interesting progression. But I guess driving my character into total despair this early on wouldn't be such a great idea.))
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>>You'd hardly be thinking rationally with your life suddenly and unexpectedly at risk.

"That's where you're wrong. I'd always be prepared for situations like that, and if, for whatever reason I'm not, I'm capable of thinking quite fast. I'd be able to assess and resolve the situation without conflict in no time. And yes, I do mean to brag.
As for feeling anything, I can admit this much. For the past 3 years I've been working as a prosecutor. I deal with murderers on a very regular basis. I also take the time out to examine crime scenes, so in my view, this wasn't anything special. Don't get me wrong though, I still value a human life, it's just that my sensitivity towards them has.. decreased over time."
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"Mion stated herself that she knew about Ozaki's healing powers. If she had really wanted to save Drosselmeyer, Mion would have taken him to Ozaki's room to be saved. By omitting this course of action, Mion has actively attempted to have Drosselmeyer die so that she could escape here. (at the cost of our lives, of course).
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>>14256
"The rooms are soundproof how could she have gotten Ozaki's attention. Even if she tried knocking on his door, he wouldn't have heard it."
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...Alright, I've thought about it a lot and talked with a few people I've confided in during the game. And we've decided to just call it quits here, for several reasons:

-Timezones and pacing issues. They stretch out the game for an unnecessary amount of time.

-Groups. A seemingly valid strategy, but they slow down the game by forcing players to talk with each other. They probably wouldn't be an issue without the time difference.

-It's time consuming in general. Maybe it's not too bad on your end, but I've done pretty much nothing the past two weeks except monitor this game all day. I know it sounds awful saying this considering I'm the one who asked everyone to play but it isn't turning out the way I had hoped. So I don't want to waste anyone's time and energy with it, including mine.

-People weren't really trying to kill each other. Or doing much of anything really. I know the natural thing to do is try and defend yourself, but if everyone does it, nothing will happen.

-The trial. I'm not sure if it was noticeable but the trial didn't work entirely as intended. I think the roleplay hit a bit too hard with a few people (including myself) and a civil discussion turned into baseless accusation near the end. There wasn't enough evidence to point directly to anyone and it resulted in a wild debate, pointing fingers. That's partially my fault for not lining up things perfectly.

As I said from the beginning this was an experimental gameboard. Experiments can sometimes fail, so I kept this in mind the whole time. I wasn't sure if it would work, especially using a series of imageboards -- I really don't think it's the right medium for this game. We've gone through one "round" of play which has taken two weeks to get through. I was hoping for much faster play than this. But I can't just blame you all for "being too slow"; that isn't fair. So even if we continued, it would go into the fall season, I bet. And I really didn't want that.

Of course, I would like to hear your thoughts on how the game turned out, and what I've just said... But it probably won't change my own opinion. I feel really bad saying "let's quit while we're ahead" but if it's not working out, then it just isn't, right? After one round of play I figure I should have a solid idea of what the rest would be like and I don't think it's going to live up to what I had hoped. But at least I tried.
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Ahh… thank you Kinjo for your work, it was the first game I signed up for after all at /seacats/. I suppose I took for granted the amount of posts required for this sort of game, but it's probably for the better that you stopped it now seeing as the gameplay hadn't evolved into what was ideal. Also, I think it's a lot of work for 1 person to manage 10-12 people! I don't know how you survived myself. I also must say that for what it was, this was probably the most well planned game/RP I've played, minus the pacing issues that are somewhat unavoidable. If you ever want to try this experiment again, I'd recommend coordinating with someone in an opposite time zone to ease the burden.

I had fun with you all during the time we had together, even if we were all trying to secretly kill each other~. Until next game I suppose, and thanks again for making my, and probably other's summer much more fun.

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Indeed...this was a very interesting rp, although I didn't really get to solve mysteries and investigate like I hoped myself, it was nice for a bit. I loved Dangan Ronpa as a series, and this game was neat in trying to do a more real kind of mystery. This being my first game on gameboard, I hope to be able to solve mysteries with you all in the future!
(I should probably try using Rise on the next gameboard.. I'm not the most ideal Kirigiri x.x)
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