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"Hello, and welcome to the Camp Trial!

Here are the rules: I will give you bastards exactly 3 days from now to reach a conclusion about the culprit. After those 72 hours are all used up, or if everyone has voted before that, I will count the number of votes I have received.

To vote, simply e-mail me with the name of the person you wish to accuse of being the culprit. Voting can be done at any point during the trial, but once you vote, you cannot take it back! Think carefully!

The person with the most votes at the end will be accused of being the culprit!

If that person really is the culprit, they will be executed, and the game will continue to the next round. If that person really isn't the culprit, everyone other than the true culprit will be executed, and the game ends in the culprit's victory!

The fate of the game rests in all of you bastards' hands! By the way, you will be interacting with each other directly for this trial! Please discuss this matter with each other carefully, upupupu....!"

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"This sounds fun! Finally a fun group activity."

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>>14001
"Alright then, first thing is first. Let us recreate the crime scene."

MONOBEAR FILE: The victim is Drosselmeyer. The time of death was around 11:45 PM. The body was found in his room. Cause of death is a wound to the face made by a sharp object. Other than that, there are traces of damage to the head and right leg.

Upon investigating the room:
Upon entering I found Drosselmeyer's corpse lying on the floor. The dresser drawers were all open and empty. The table was on its side, and the pillows and blankets on the bed were in disarray. The bathroom's door was open; the curtain was open and the shower pointed toward the door. Most notable was an electric generator sitting in the center of the room plugged into an outlet.

Items found on corpse: Flashlight, Canned Food, and Gold Card.

-There are two large stab wounds on his head and face. There is also a cut on his right leg.

-There are no traces of bloodstains around the body or in the room.

-Looks like the generator is too heavy to be moved out of the room.

-The body was lying flat on his back, on the floor in front of the bed. His head was at the foot of the bed, and the items were found on his person.

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"I had to break the window to enter the room, however the doors were then disabled after that. While we are at it does anybody have additional facts regarding the room?"
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>>14001
"This is going to be difficult...There aren't many ways to narrow down suspects in a case like this. But let's start by sharing clues.

Firstly, my active skill allows me to immediately perceive any evidence in a room. Because of that, I can say with confidence that there were only three important clues in Drosselmeyer's room:

a) The corpse itself.
b) The electrical generator.
c) The carpet.

Ozaki already covered the first two. As for the carpet, there were no bloodstains on it; in other words, it's likely that the victim was killed elsewhere and moved to his room later.

...Hold on. Ozaki, you said that when you entered, the generator was plugged into the wall? When I investigated later, it was unplugged. Also, at the time that I investigated the corpse, his card was not on his person. Did you unplug the generator and take the card, or is someone else responsible?

Also, was the generator set to ON when you first entered? Because it was when I saw it."

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>>14004
"Technically I did go over the last one. I'm just vague with my investigations etc.

Anyway, it was OFF when I entered. I tried turning it on and I unplugged it to try some tests. I ended up asking Kazuichi to deal with it.

As for the card I only looked at it and then left it in the room. Kedgeworth and Lucas were with me so maybe they know?

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>>14004
"If they were killed outside and moved, doesn't that mean something strong is the culprit?"
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((Note: Ozaki, I think I edited my post at the exact same moment you posted yours. Just to alert you that you may have missed the last two paragraphs.))

>>14006
"Does it? I think that most of us could move a human body, given enough time. The questions are: first, what did the culprit have to gain by moving him? And second, why wasn't he in his room in the first place?

I wonder, when was the last time Drosselmeyer was seen alive? I didn't see him at all after he first entered his room yesterday."
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>>14007
((Yeah I edited my last post in order to respond))

"I could say the same. I only saw him once right at the start of the game getting all frisky with you and the other girls."

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>>14007
"Would it? If the person was bleeding and then dragged, wouldn't blood get along the areas he was dragged? I think my friend Fenris told me something like that once about blood and injuries..."
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>>14009
"That is true...Although it is possible that the blood could have been cleaned away later. We should also ask exactly how far the corpse was moved. ...It's a real shame that we didn't have more time to look around first, so that we could have tried to figure out where he was killed...

......By the way, what do you think of those two empty seats? 'Dark Kamijou'...That's the name of the owner of the cell phone we found in Rudolf-san's room. What could it mean?"
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>>14010
"Well he couldn't have been killed to far from his room right? It would be hassle to drag something far."

"They probably got lost, this camp was kind of hard to find."
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>>14011
>>14010
"...They are probably the names of the few people who never woke up from their tents."
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>>14011
"I guess, but...There were no spare rooms, right? If there were supposed to be more participants, you'd have thought there would have been rooms set out for them too...

The implications of the fact that we found an item that didn't belong to any of us are also worth considering. Does that mean that some of the other items we found may have belonged to those two...And therefore that some of our own items are missing? We really should have properly sorted out exactly who owned which items...Well, it probably isn't relevant to this case, so I guess we should focus. It does seem odd, though."
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>>14013
"Yeah lets move back on the subject of the murder. Does anybody have more facts or clues about the room or anything else regarding that?"
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>>14014
"Since he was moved, maybe he was in the location someone didn't want him? I had to move boxes once, because they didn't want them in the room anymore."
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"...I unplugged the generator whilst I was testing it with Ozaki. I'm not exactly sure what the culprit, or even Drosselmeyer, was doing with it. It's powerful enough to supply electricity to the entire dorm, if there were to be a power outage.

Speaking of the room, what was with the shower-head in the bathroom? Anyone know why it was pointed at the door? I mean, maybe something was washed off in there, but the place was dry when I got there..."

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"Could maybe Drosselmeyer been trying to graduate and went to someone else's room, but then it happened? I read something like that in the manga I brought. A girl went to the guy's room to graduate. Hey I just realized that manga is just like this. How interesting, I was right, they are manuals for real life!"
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>>14018
"..."
Kirigiri finally speaks up from among the group.
Uses Evidence Bullet: Bloodied Clever and Autopsy.

"I checked Drosselmeyers body and clothes, they were slightly dirty. He couldn't have been killed in the dorm area, on top of that, I found a bloodied clever washed up on the shore of the lake.. The wounds on his body were inflicted in quick succession, so it is likely he wasn't killed in anyone's room."
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>>14019
"Interesting. So it’s safe to assume that he was killed outside, dragged to and cleaned up in his room. The people that let their items be known to the group at the beginning, Rudolf, Kedgeworth, Rika, Blake, and myself included, did not have a “cleaver”. This is assuming that the cleaver Kirigiri is referring to is not a standard knife. I’m sure the people listed can vouch for me that this is true. Although, Kedgeworth said there were a suspicious lack of knives in the kitchen, so perhaps he can shed more light on that variable.
Unfortunately, I don't have much to add from an investigation standpoint as I found the exact clues Ozaki and Kazuichi first found. Not exactly my best prioritization of time.

>>14004
Actually, now that I recall, the first time I checked at 8:30, the gold card was on the corpse. At 12:15, it was gone. Unless anyone would like to fess up now, which is highly advisable, I can see no reason why anyone would want to take it other than to ruin the investigation if the doors are deactivated. It may be early to point fingers though, as this is a minor discrepancy.

>>14016
But, if I may ask bluntly, I also witnessed unknown behavior to myself during the investigation period. As a reminder, a crucial period of grave importance where lives are at stake. Understanding that much, would you be ever as so kind to inform me of the reason for doing so? Kazuichi, you left to your room at the height of the investigation. This was directly before I reexamined the corpse for the gold card, which turned out to be inexplicably missing.
There were also numerous people missing from the room during the investigation. Though Kirigiri was able to track down the alleged murder weapon, I’m just wondering how the investigation was spearheaded on a person by person basis when it was decided when the group would split up. I apologize for being out of the loop, but I believe the whereabouts of each person during the investigation, and the locations where clues were not found, are just as important as the those details and actual clues during the time of the murder."

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>>14019
"Hold up. Why could he not been killed in the dorm area? His room sure, but that's only part of the dorm.

Is it because of the dirt on the clothing? He could have gotten that during the day. Actually was it even dirt? What does "dirty" mean?"
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"....?! A cleaver?"


Evidence Bullet: Souda's Testimony.

"I checked the kitchen shortly after we got here, and, well, I noticed that a knife and a cleaver were missing then! I checked at about 11:40, so the culprit must have entered the kitchen before then, right?!

As for why I left the room, Ozaki he said he had everything figured out after I helped him with the generator. I figured I'd only get in the way and tamper with the crime scene, but it seems plenty of others here didn't feel the same way."

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>>14021
"What else does it mean? There was dirt on his clothes. Likely meaning her was dragged to his room.. And, this was noticeably dirty.. Perhaps it was near an area with damp soil? It
definitely explains the bloodied clever I found on the shore."
>>14020
"I investigate alone, albeit I might ask a few people I trust to look for things for me. I only investigate and find clues myself. Unfortunately.. I didn't have enough time to find all the clues I could use for this investigation.."
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>>14022
"That is...highly likely. Did you find anything else?"
(Woops, accidentally made another post x.x)

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>>14022
"How do we know they were ever there in the first place?"
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>>14025
"There's a magnetic knife rack in the kitchen, so the spaces where they should have been were kinda obvious. I didn't find anything else, but I do know of at least two people that beat me to the kitchen that morning. Mion left just after I got there, and she told me that she'd seen Kirigiri entering just before her. Of course, I've got nothing back this up other than Mion's testimony, I'm afraid..."

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>>14023
"Going from the evidence it's more likely they threw the cleaver in the lake to hide the evidence.

So you are sure this was soil right? And not something one would find in the hallway or floor? It just seems like he could have gotten dirty in more ways than one.

Besides, it would make more sense for the murder to have happened inside the dorms, which is the only reason I'm against it. Kazuichi actually made a suggestion regarding the generator that makes it apparent. It also coincides with a theory already suggested.

Why don't you tell them Kazuichi? You know, what you said after I asked you to investigate the generator."
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>>14026
"Just because there was spaces doesn't mean anything was there at the start. Unless someone saw those spaces filled at one point there is no proof anything was ever placed there during the times we have been at this camp."
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>>14026
"...Odd. I went to see if anyone was there.."
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"Oh, right! Well, all the doors here have electric locks on them, right? So, if the power goes out, everyone's doors unlock. Now, usually that would last for ten minutes or so until the backup generator comes online, but with the generator in Drosselmeyer's room, you could cut the power, then use that to turn it back on and make a short blackout of a few seconds. I didn't think of it at first, but if the gold card was on Drosselmeyer's body when you found it, that makes this a closed room, right? So the generator would have been key in setting it up! You could cut the power, go in and kill someone, then leave and trigger the generator from a distance!

...As for you, Victoria, heard of Occam's Razor? The simplest solution is usually the correct one. If you think I'm wrong, then where do you think the cleaver came from? Got an answer simpler than the kitchen?

Finally, Kirigiri, this is important, so please answer honestly. Did you take a knife from the kitchen before 11:40?"

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>>14030
"...No, I did not take the clever. I swear on it. On top of the fact that.. I already have a sharp weapon on me, a saw to be specific. It is in my backpack if you want to check. I already had a weapon, so getting a smaller clever would have been redundant."
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>>14030
"Right, that is the clue here. I'm fairly confident that is how they were able to commit the crime."
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>>14032
"...Ozaki, this may seem like an odd question... But would you happen to know who 'Nessy' is?"
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>>14034
"Isn't that a nickname for the loch ness monster?"
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>>14030
"Someone brought it with them. Both our cases have 1 assumption. Yours is a knife existed there. Mine is someone brought it. Both are simple and logical."
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"... Not the cleaver, a knife. There was a knife missing as well at that time that I can't account for in my theory unless you took it. I mean, I could be wrong, but...

Victoria, you're saying that in this camp that has been tailored to us specifically, there just so happens to be two separate gaps on that strip without any explanation? This morning, there were barely any knives left. Everyone's been arming themselves. I don't see why you're so dead-set against the idea of the cleaver being taken from the kitchen!

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>>14035
"I'd also like to shed light on something... Yesterday, at 9 P.M.. I spied on both you and Phillip on my way to the cafeteria. I heard you both talk about a table with the words 'WILL WAS HERE...' on it. After you decided to go back to your room, Phillip went to go spy on you off trail, I followed both of you and spied on him in return.. Mind you, he came in through the cafeteria. All of those actions were highly suspicious.."
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>>14030

"Inversely, to apply Occam's razor here, I'm just a little confused. The generator was found in Drosselmeyer's room... I'm having a hard time here... so the culprit somehow switched on the generator remotely to escape or to enter? Isn't it just simpler if the body was killed outside, the gold card used to enter, and a key not required to escape? Or maybe I just didn't investigate the door close enough..."

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>>14026
Evidence Bullet: Mion's Testimony.

"When I was with the group, it was taking a lot of time so I went to get food at the cafeteria. That's when I saw Kirigiri get out of the door. I went inside and saw that the knife base was not complete. After that, Souda came in from the back door. Since I found this strange I told him about it."

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>>14038
"Hmm if I remember correctly that all happened before Night Time. So if you really want to press an issue unrelated to the crime then go for it. I'll just need specific questions since I don't see what you can even gain from it."

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>>14041
"...Of course, I wanted to inform you of this before I asked you the following..
When exactly did you talk to Souda about these generators? Was it last night?"
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>>14042
"...Actually, it was at the crime scene. As soon as I got there Ozaki asked what I could make of the generator, why it was there, and how it could be used. He said it was key to the investigation. As soon as I finished tinkering with it and gave him an answer, he left. Oh, time was, that was between 10:30 and 11:30, I kinda took my time with it."

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>>14042
"It was when I investigated the crime scene.
I was a bit stumped on my theory since I couldn't get the generator to work, so I asked him to mess around and give his ideas. It's a good thing I asked him too, it really helped."
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>>14043
"...Fu, darn it.. But something here is not right.. But a puzzling question would be how something like a generator could have been moved all the way to Drosselmeyer's room? It's too heavy to lift by normal means, and I went to check on the generator in the actual generator room during the investigation... It was off when I first found it."
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>>14045
"T-the generator was off? ... I mean, okay, but why is that a problem? I mean, so long as the generator in Drosselmeyer's room was running when the main one was shut down, I don't see a problem.

Wait, what if the generator was one of the items Drosselmeyer brought with them to the island, and Monobear left it in his room? That works, right?"

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>>14045
"Well they could have just used an appliance dolly right?

But anyway that was interesting, the fact it was off. That makes it more obvious this method was used to bypass the electronic locks.

Anyway, just to show my hand, last night I saw Victoria Mion, Rika and Rudolf chatting in Victoria's room. I saw Rudolf go to sleep shortly after, but I didn't know about the rest so I made a follow up in the morning.

What I found is that there was in fact a power shortage, or rather the lights flickered for a moment during the night. Rika, Mion, and Victora can testify to that."

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>>14046
"...I find that hard to believe. But...you mentioned there being a backup generator? Could it be that...perhaps the one in Drosselmeyer's room is the backup generator..?"
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>>14045

"Oh, this may explain my confusion. Are we sure this is the same generator as the one in the Garbage Disposal Facility? It was on when I checked for it around 6:00 pm.

Did anyone by any chance check if it was missing? For some reason that didn't cross my mind."

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>>14048

"I don't think so. Y'see, I was worried something like this might happen, so I asked Monobear about the specifics of how things would happen if there was a power outage, y'know, so I could prepare. He specifically said that the backup generator was far away and unreachable for any of us."

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>>14047
"Yeah it was really interesting, the lights flickered on and off a few times. Before everything went dark for a few minutes."
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>>14050
"That just makes this more confusing.. There were two generators then?"
Wait a minute..
Evidence Bullet: Monobear and Ozaki.
"...I remember being at the Garbage Disposal Facility before.. I came across it with Kedgeworth when I heard Monobear talking with...Ozaki. He told Ozaki about the generator, and how it was only good enough to power that quadrant of the campsite.."
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>>14052
"Right it was the same generator you were talking about. Nothing too special.

You know, thinking about it there was one room in the museum Rudolf and I could not get into. Maybe the backup generator was in there. Shame we can't explore it now."
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Anyway for alibis I assume most people were sleeping right?

The only people I know who stayed up later than I was Mion Victoria, Rika and maybe Rudolf. Of course someone could have been out of their room at the time but they were the only people who who were moving/talking with their light on in their rooms. I'll post the rest of the follow up I did in the morning.

Testimonies:

Mion: "I left the room not long after that. I went directly to my room. I went before Rika so that should be around 11:30."
Mion: "Now that you mention it, it's true that the lights went off before midnight."

Rika : "Mion-chan left for her room first, not long after you did...I'm not sure exactly what time it was, though. Then I left not long after her."

Victoria: "I don't remember the times. Mion left and then later Rika left."
Victoria: "Mion left and then a while later the lights did that. It was so cool. And then Rika left shortly after I think, or was it a while after. For some reason it is like I don't know."

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>>14053

"Was it only you and Rudolf that entered the Museum together that you recall? Not that I'm implying anything. And, what sort of problem did you have getting the back-up generator? Room locked?"
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>>14053
"Still...where could an extra generator come from? That doesn't make much sense.."
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"I have been wondering... Ozaki, what were you doing in the generator room when I came to talk to you with Victoria? I heard a *thud* from the inside before you opened the door."

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>>14055
"Well I still don't know if there was one in there, but each door(there were four) seemed to be lock. They may have just been blocked by something though I'm not too sure."

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>>14057
"... I was actually listen to you guys talking, and I was going to kick the door down to startle you....... however I forgot which way the hinges went and simply ended up kicking the door..."

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>>14053
>>14056
"A shame, indeed! But let me make it clear, that room does not have a generator! It's as Kirigiri and Souda said. Two generators; one in the Garbage Disposal Facility, and one in another quadrant of the campsite. ...This one which was found at the crime scene shouldn't exist, yet here it is...!"
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>>14060
"Oh so it was probably brought by one of the campers then. Monobear just put it in the room since it wouldn't fit into a backpack."

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>>14054

"Like I said, I was kinda paranoid that someone was gonna use a power outage to make their attack, so I was in my room tinkering from 4:30 onwards."
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>>14060

"I wonder if this generator was brought here then by one of us. I brought a hand-crank generator that I think Rudolf still has... but I'm not sure if those are the same either since it's been a while that I got a look at it, and well--It's a hand-crank generator."
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>>14062
"Yeah, I too was worried about that outcome upon discovering the area. After I had clarified by asking Monobear about it it seemed even more dangerous.

In the end he got himself killed trying it so it probably wasn't the best idea afterall."

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>>14060
"Hm...still, how could the culprit know this?"
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((I.. was asleep. Or I'd have cleared this up a long time ago.))
"I assumed both Ozaki and Lucas saw this, or at least heard me say that I'm taking the card. I'm the one who took the Gold Card. I thought I needed it to unlock the door, unless it was already unlocked when I used it and then pushed the door open. And if you're wondering, I haven't touched anything else. If I had, at least one of the other two would have noticed. (("Okay we need to bring everyone in here. I'll be taking the gold key from Drosselmeyer's corpse. We need everyone to be here before the trial starts. We don't have a second to waste."
I take the gold card and head out to the cafeteria through the rooms door.))

As for his card specifically, I'm curious about his Active Skill. Did anyone see him around the rose garden area? Specifically near the Gazebo. He could have been there trying to interpret the 'WILL WAS HERE' text.

And, Krigiri, the shore you're talking about, did it happen to have a canoe?

As for the generator, the only thing I noticed was that it was plugged into an outlet when we entered.

As for what Lucas said, at around 7:30AM as I was making breakfast, I noticed that some knives were clearly missing. And I know they were there before as I saw them around 12:20PM the day before while I was making coffee.

Finally, does anyone want to start with the actual alibi's now? Unless you want to wait for Blake and Phillip."

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>>14066
"Yes, actually...there was a canoe. Why do you ask?"
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"Ah. I passed by that area around 11:00PM last night. I didn't notice anything strange from a distance, not that I went all the way there to observe carefully. After I noticed it, I continued down the western trail which I was following and then went back to the dorm when I reached a dead end. My point is, that until around 11:10PM, no one was at the shore. Now the time of the death is stated to be 11:45PM. So the culprit and the victim would only have around 30 minutes or so to get there and for the culprit to kill the victim. If we assume that the murder took place there.

If I were to continue this line of reasoning, I'd need some alibis."
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>>14068
"I was in my room sleeping, I don't know if anyone can actually testify, but I went to sleep at around 10 P.M..."
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"I went to sleep around at around 11:30. Just like Kirigiri, no one saw me do that."
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>>14068
"Rika and I were together in my room at 11:45, and Mion had just left shortly before at around 11:30 or so. Assuming it took place by the lake, I don't think any of the three of us could have possibly done it."
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>>14068

"I went to my room a little after 6:00 pm to sleep early, after investigating the Garbage facility area. I woke up sometime in the middle of the night, but then realized it was too early and finished up on my reading until I fell back asleep.

Not exactly an alibi, but I was in my room until ~7:00 am."

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Kirigiri, can I ask you a question?

When you entered the kitchen, did you notice a knife and/or cleaver missing?
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Oh right, as for alibi, I was in Victoria's room until around 11. Ozaki will agree, as I caught him snooping around the hallway around 11. We both then went into our respective rooms. I went to sleep shortly thereafter
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>>14073
"I did not enter the kitchen then... I simply headed out the backdoor."
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"Just thought I'd put this out there. I don't see any reason why any of you need to hide your thoughts right now. The 'innocents' should put up any theories they have and the rest of us could help build it up while the ONE culprit would try to distort the facts. But I'm sure we'd be able to see what we can clearly believe and what still requires evidence. For example, I can safely assume that 3 people here aren't the culprits, if they confirm Victoria's alibi.
By the way, telling us when you last saw Drosselmeyer might help too. I last saw him around 7:00PM in the dorm's hallway.

Rika, could you tell us if you used your active in any other rooms?"
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"Kirigiri, I must say I'm a little confused on something. You should you found the bloody cleaver washing up on shore. Don't things like that come off when they come in contact with water?"

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>> No. 1661 edit
>>14075
Mion can you testify that you did not run into Kirigiri inside or whilst entering the kitchen?
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>>14076
I think that way of thinking is naive. Almost all of the alibi's will just be "I was sleeping".

This is a courtroom after all, you need to prove who is most likely rather than who did not.

However theories should be welcome, I do agree with that.

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"Also something else, the time stated it happened was 11:45 right? But the lights went off at around 11:30. Doesn't that mean the lights going out was to get into Drosselmeyer's room, or something else rather than exit it?"

"Oh and Mr Cute Two-Toned Bear I have a question for you. If you are in the hallway and someone inside a room you are nearby makes noise would you be able to hear them. I remember Ozaki implying he heard our conversation out in the hallway so I was wondering about that."

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>>14075
>>14078
Not even necessary:


Evidence Bullet: Mion's Testimony.

"When I was with the group, it was taking a lot of time so I went to get food at the cafeteria. That's when I saw Kirigiri get out of the door [to the kitchen]. I went inside and saw that the knife base was not complete. After that, Souda came in from the back door. Since I found this strange I told him about it."


This post tells me all I need to know.

The order of people entering is not exact, but I can with a certain degree of exactness that Kirigiri entered before Mion and Souda, and that Mion and Souda entered before me.
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"Ozaki, if we manage to get everyone, including the culprit to give us a lot of details, eventually they might just slip up. Now I'm not saying that they're stupid, but the things they say might contradict what another person might say.
As I said earlier, this wasn't the only question that I was going to ask, I have a lot more incoming. And I think that we've almost managed to confirm at least Victoria's and Rika's alibis after asking them about it, as rule number 6 dictates that A “culprit” who kills a fellow camper will graduate the camp. However, they must not let any other camper know they are the culprit. The more information, the better."
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>>14080
"Actually I think those are two different things. 11:30 was just around when they returned to the room. 11:45 was when the killing blow must have been dealt."

>>14082
"I see your point." ((To be fair though in a game such as this it may be harder to do so.))
>> No. 1667 edit
"Victoria, I asked the bear the same question, he told me the that the walls in the dorm room at least, are soundproof."
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>>14080
"Upupupu, someone else asked the same thing yesterday... 'These rooms are soundproof, so even if you shot a gun or screamed for help, no one could come to your rescue. That's the kind of despair this place has.' was my answer. Is that good?"
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>>14085
"Yep, thank you so much!"

"Ozaki, how did you know what we were talking about then?"

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>>14085
How about the floors? The rooms have carpet in them, but I don't remember about everywhere else. Is it carpet in the hallway? Cafeteria? Kitchen? It's must harder to remove blood from carpet than just wiping it off on tile or hardwood...
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"Wait, couldn't the corpse have been brought at any time, even after 12? They don't really need the electricity to go off to be able to enter or leave the room if they have Drosselmeyer's Gold Card on them."

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>>14087
"The cafeteria and kitchen have tiled floor. The hallway is carpeted just like the rooms!"
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>>14086
"What do you mean?"

"Oh wait, that is because I asked them in the morning."

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>>14090
"Last night when Rudolf opened the door and saw you out in the hallway you said 'Yes... ... people should be sleeping right now. Everyone else has their lights off. I was worried that you guys were planning something but it seems your conversation is civil enough. You should get some sleep, night.'"
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>>14091
"I guess you could say it was a bluff. I was trying to spy on you so I said the first thing that made me less suspicious in case you guys were planning to kill or something."

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"Ozaki, you can't plan to kill with anyone other than yourself, if I understand the rules correctly. Am I right, bear? Or does it mean that even if the culprit tells a few people that he's committed the murder, that still doesn't go against the rules of him graduating unless he's found guilty after the votes are counted?"
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>>14094
"The culprit's victory will be determined by the votes. However, what kind of stupid culprit would tell other people? And there is no reason for an accomplice to help. After all, only the culprit will walk away alive if they win. Any accomplices will be killed along with the rest of the innocents if the culprit is not accused at the end of the trial, upupupu!"
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"That's what I thought. Just confirming."
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"I don't understand, what was the point of the lights going out?"
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>>14088

"That's what I was saying. Although, what purpose would the generator have then? If we go by Rika's ability alone to find evidence, I'd like to think it has something to do with the murder at hand.

It seems we have two alternate theories, unfortunately I don't see them any closer to finding who actually committed the murder. Though I'd like to ask Mr. Monobear the location of the bathroom compared to the generator, as the shower head was facing the door. Seeing as some "tinkering" was needed because Ozaki couldn't get the generator to work, perhaps the water hit it somehow and the culprit cleaned up after? Not exactly solving anything important though, just assuming everything is a Chekhov's Gun, since I still don't have much of a clue myself."
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>>14100
((A crime scene map, I really should have made it earlier. My fault.))

"Does this answer your question? ...The shower head is on the left side of the rectangle, so it's at a weird angle."
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"Also I have two other things. The lights went out at 11:30 if we assume that at that point the culprit went into Drosselmeyer's room. Doesn't that mean there is too big of gap between death and went they enter. Even if they get into a fight a 15 min one seems strange even more so if one of them has a cleaver.

Also Mion you left my room almost right before the lights went out. Did you see anything in the hallway, or hear anything? Where were you when the lights went out, were you in your room? Or did you have to find your way back in the dark?"

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>>14100
"Or it could just be a red herring. Not that I'm dismissing it as that but if we're going to believe Rika and her skill, and if we also believe that the bathroom can be considered a part of the entire room, then it doesn't look like a real clue."
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>>14081
That's when I saw Kirigiri get out of the door [to the kitchen].

"I'm sorry Rudolf, I saw her going out of the cafeteria door that leads to the corridor. I can't say for sure if she took something or not, it could be anyone that left the group at the beginning and rushed to the cafeteria."


>>14102
((I just wrote go back to my room.))

"I wish I could be more useful. No I didn't see anything suspicious in the corridor. When the
lights went off I was already inside of my room."

>>14103
"I can confirm Rika's ability if that can help."

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>>14104
"Confirm it how? Have you seen her Gold Card? So, you, Rika and Victoria were together till 11:30?"
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