No. 254

Six days till the deadline, I presume. Shall we begin?

For starters, I request for the following to be repeated or answered in red.

Navy truth: Were Eva and Hideyoshi tortured before their deaths?

If so, how long were Eva and Hideyoshi tortured?

Did Eva and Hideyoshi receive a "shock" to their spinal cords?

The culprit took a few hours to kill Eva and Hideyoshi.

The culprit took less than/or an hour to kill Eva and Hideyoshi.

Eva and Hideyoshi received a great amount of "shock" from the culprit, this "shock" was the main cause of their deaths.

The culprit used an artificial means, namely the tools, to create this "shock."

Besides the "shock", the culprit also did something else that lead to Eva and Hideyoshi's deaths.

Eva and Hideyoshi were never under the influence of any drugs from the moment they were captured in Natsuhi's room till the moment they died.

The "Shock" was a mental type of shock.

George's determination to marry Shannon indirectly lead to Eva and Hideyoshi's deaths.

No. 255

>>254
Navy truth: Were Eva and Hideyoshi tortured before their deaths?

(If so, how long were Eva and Hideyoshi tortured?)

What do you mean by torture?

(Did Eva and Hideyoshi receive a "shock" to their spinal cords?)

I assume you mean the physical kind of shock.
No they did not receive a shock to their spinal cords.

(The culprit took a few hours to kill Eva and Hideyoshi.)

(The culprit took less than/or an hour to kill Eva and Hideyoshi.)

What do you mean fully? When the culprit started their plan?

(Eva and Hideyoshi received a great amount of "shock" from the culprit, this "shock" was the main cause of their deaths.)

Physical or mental shock in this case?

(The culprit used an artificial means, namely the tools, to create this "shock.")

Don't fully understand this one.

(Besides the "shock", the culprit also did something else that lead to Eva and Hideyoshi's deaths.)

Physical or mental?

(Eva and Hideyoshi were never under the influence of any drugs from the moment they were captured in Natsuhi's room till the moment they died.)

Eva and Hideyoshi were under the influence of drugs when they died.

(The "Shock" was a mental type of shock.)

Eva and Hideyoshi did receive mental shock.

(George's determination to marry Shannon indirectly lead to Eva and Hideyoshi's deaths.)

Depends on how indirectly you want to go.

No. 256

>>255

>What do you mean by torture?

Any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person.
Were Eva and Hideyoshi exposed to acts of this nature?

>What do you mean fully? When the culprit started their plan?

Yes. Did the culprit take a few hours, less than or an hour to carry out his/her plan?

>Physical or mental shock in this case?

I refer to mental shock. Was this mental shock the direct cause of their deaths?

>Don't fully understand this one.

My mistake. Ignore this.

>Physical or mental?

I refer to physical. Did Eva and Hideyoshi receive any form of physical shock?

>Eva and Hideyoshi did receive mental shock.

Is George's decision to marry Shannon considered a mental shock for Eva and Hideyoshi as well?


Navy truth: The culprit had an accomplice.

No. 257

>>256
>Were Eva and Hideyoshi exposed to acts of this nature?

Yes they were.

>Yes. Did the culprit take a few hours, less than or an hour to carry out his/her plan?

Yes it did. The culprit took over an hour to carry out the plan.

>Was this mental shock the direct cause of their deaths?

I would say; no.

>I refer to physical. Did Eva and Hideyoshi receive any form of physical shock?

No, they did not.

>Is George's decision to marry Shannon considered a mental shock for Eva and Hideyoshi as well?

Logically speaking I would say, yes. But; this has nothing to do with their deaths. And the mental shock I refer to is different then what you asked about.

>Navy truth: The culprit had an accomplice.

That is correct. The culprit did not act alone.

No. 258

>>257
Eva and Hideyoshi were subjected to forced ingestion, waterboarding and dunking.

The drugs that Eva and Hideyoshi were under influence of are non-fatal.

The howdunnit of Eva and Hideyoshi's deaths was planned beforehand and carried out with no mistakes or unexpected incidents.

Eva and Hideyoshi were incapacitated an hour before they died.

The mental shock that Eva and Hideyoshi received was a form of psychological torture that only applied to them, hence if someone else received the same psychological torture, he/she would not be affected greatly.

Eva and Hideyoshi were hallucinating under the effects of the drugs they consumed.

Eva and Hideyoshi died from the effects of the drugs and the mental shock they received.

No. 259

>>258
>Eva and Hideyoshi were subjected to forced ingestion, waterboarding and dunking.

Eva and Hideyoshi did not suffer any of those.

>The drugs that Eva and Hideyoshi were under influence of are non-fatal.

That is correct.

>The howdunnit of Eva and Hideyoshi's deaths was planned beforehand and carried out with no mistakes or unexpected incidents.

That is correct; there were no mistakes or unexpected incidents.

>Eva and Hideyoshi were incapacitated an hour before they died.

No, they were not.

>The mental shock that Eva and Hideyoshi received was a form of psychological torture that only applied to them, hence if someone else received the same psychological torture, he/she would not be affected greatly.

This is not the case.

>Eva and Hideyoshi were hallucinating under the effects of the drugs they consumed.

Not sure. I tried looking up the meaning of hallucination, and got. "To hallucinate." How helpful..

>Eva and Hideyoshi died from the effects of the drugs and the mental shock they received.

I would say, no.

No. 260

>>259
Navy truth: Eva and Hideyoshi were subjected to mental torture in Natsuhi's room.

Eva and Hideyoshi were not restrained and aware of their surroundings when they were subjected to mental torture.

The drugs played a part in Eva and Hideyoshi's deaths.

Besides the drugs and the mental shock, there is a third element that contributed to Eva and Hideyoshi's deaths, am I correct?

Jessica was an accomplice to the culprit for Eva and Hideyoshi's deaths.

Blue truth: Eva and Hideyoshi died from a stroke.

No. 261

>>260
>Eva and Hideyoshi were subjected to mental torture in Natsuhi's room.

That is correct.

>Eva and Hideyoshi were not restrained and aware of their surroundings when they were subjected to mental torture.

Eva and Hideyoshi were restrained when they received the mental torture.

>The drugs played a part in Eva and Hideyoshi's deaths.

That is correct.

>Besides the drugs and the mental shock, there is a third element that contributed to Eva and Hideyoshi's deaths, am I correct?

Yes you are.

>Jessica was an accomplice to the culprit for Eva and Hideyoshi's deaths.

Jessica was not an accomplice in Eva and Hideyoshi's deaths.

>Eva and Hideyoshi died from a stroke.

Eva and Hideyoshi did not die from a stroke.

No. 262

>>261
Navy truth: The "mental torture" that Eva and Hideyoshi were subjected to were verbal abuse and threats.

Eva and Hideyoshi were conscious and fully aware of their surroundings while subjected to the mental torture.

The drugs were injected into Eva and Hideyoshi's bodies.

Eva and Hideyoshi received brain damage.

The culprit tortured Eva and Hideyoshi for information.

The culprit tortured Eva and Hideyoshi out of pure malice.

Blue truth: Eva and Hideyoshi's necks were broken.

No. 263

>>262
>The "mental torture" that Eva and Hideyoshi were subjected to were verbal abuse and threats.

That is correct.

>Eva and Hideyoshi were conscious and fully aware of their surroundings while subjected to the mental torture.

I refuse.

>The drugs were injected into Eva and Hideyoshi's bodies.

The drugs were not injected into Eva and Hideyoshi's bodies.

>Eva and Hideyoshi received brain damage.

They did not.

>The culprit tortured Eva and Hideyoshi for information.

No.

>The culprit tortured Eva and Hideyoshi out of pure malice.

I refuse.

>Eva and Hideyoshi's necks were broken.

Eva and Hideyoshi's necks were not broken.

No. 264

>>263
At this point in time I must ask, all that's left to figure out is the third element that killed Eva and Hideyoshi, am I correct?

No. 265

>>264
Yes that is correct.

No. 266

>>265
Right.

Could I ask about the condition and location of Eva and Hideyoshi's bodies when the police found them?

No. 267

>>266
Umm. condition? What exactly do you mean? And they were found in Natsuhi's room, next to her dresser.

No. 268

>>267
I'm guessing the police would have performed autopsies on their bodies, so a coroner's report would be appreciated.

Then again if it's considered cheating, you can refuse.

No. 269

>>268
I refuse of course.

No. 270

Second Twilight completely solved now.

Eva and Hideyoshi were drugged with anti-depressants (They have the side effect of messing with your sense of reality, and perception, and to cause panic and fear on overdose.) and were blindfolded. Then the culprit told them they were going to cut off their limbs. The panicked blindfolded ones were sent into shock when they heard cutting noises and felt a wet sensation on their limbs. Their brains assumed the limbs were cut off, and shut down believing to have lost too much blood.

Remaining: Maria's Death.
Maria's Letter.
The strange note.

(3 blues remaining for these 3 questions.)
Who the mastermind is. Why they did it. What is the core of this game.

No. 271

>>270
Maria was simply beheaded with a cleaver, nothing special here.

No. 272

>>271
This occurred after Maria's death. And was not the cause of her death.

No. 273

Alright, let's call this my first mystake!

Rosa is the mastermind!
Noticing the negotiations with Krauss would not bring her happyness back, she decided to search for the gold. But when she found it, it was too late, Eva and Kyrie had already found it before her! Since they were allies they attempted to kill Rosa, but she was able to escape from them. (Mach appears here, I will explain later why). Kyrie and Rosa decided to keep it a secret. They both decided to execute the first twilight, and recruited Kanon with the promise of him being able to be together with Jessica.
The plan backfired them, Jessica could not forgive the persons who killed her parents. Somehow Rosa managed to capture and kill Hideyoshi and Eva, how they died was already explained. The trick point was that Rosa managed to make Jessica believe Shannon was the culprit? How? Well maybe she atributed the revenge for Kanon dead!
The next victims were the father she despised and the most clever piece alive, why would Kyrie leave the room? Easy, Rosa has again no alibi and Kyrie suspect her. In the end she die and write in Kanji the word "ROSE", unfortunatelly his son didn't attended school so he couldn't read it.
But there was another problem, Rosa believed Erika could have been able to see her while escaping, so she went and took Erika, and in the process had to kill Nanjo, Erika could be the perfect dummy-culprit she needed. So Rosa just took her while she was asleep and dumped her somewhere.
Everything was going perfectly, but then Maria started being a crybaby again, so Battler decided to escort her to the rose. Why? Well maybe Maria remembered the meaning of the Kanji Kyrie drawed and wanted to see her rosa again.
And here ... is when things start getting confusing, Rosa not being able to trust incompetent Battler, decided to sneak out to follow them, then shit happened and Battler shoot Maria accidentally, but a different thing ended up killing Maria, maybe a disease, a shock or trap X, whatever floats your boat.
When Rosa found Battler, Maria was already dead and this is when "Mach" appears. From what I could understand Mach is the representation of hatred and desire for revenge, and the real cause of the murders in Rokkenjima. In total frustration Rosa killed Battler, him being unable to defend himself after what he did.
In the end when Erika returned to the Guesthouse, and not caring about anything else, Rosa and Jessica pinpoint Erika as the culprit, and everyone die in an horrible battle royale of mistruth.

No. 274

>>273
Ushiromiya Rosa is not the mastermind.
Eva and Kyrie did not find the gold.
Kanon is not an accomplice to the mastermind.

No. 275

>>273
>Everyone die in an horrible battle royale of mistruth

A mass shoot out did take place.

Rosa did kill Kyrie in the boiler room.

No. 276

>stream the novel
>end up with even more questions
Damn it ... this is so confusing.
I have two requests if it's posible.
My last theory used Rosa as the mastermind, but when you denied it you only admited Rosa killing one person, do this mean she only kills kyrie during all the gameboard?
And the second one, you said two murders occured before the first twilight, and than the culprits for these murders were two different people from the mastermind, then can you say this person who was killed was none of the first twilight victims?

No. 277

>>276
The only person Rosa kills during this game is Kyrie.

Ummm.. not really sure what you fully mean, but I'll try to answer what I think you want.

The two who were killed before the first twilight were not part of the first twilight that was found. In short, none of the victims found at the first twilight, were those two people.

No. 278

>>277
I see, thank you, I'm having some trouble with that second murder.
Another request, in the story George the detective suppodedly find Kanon's corpse, but it's just commented about.
Kanon was death when George and Shannon were to search for him in the chappel, in other words, he died in the before the end of the first twilight and the start of the second twilight.

No. 279

>>278
An excellent suspicious point in the story. To which the answer is.

Kanon is alive at the time of the second twilight.

No. 280

>>279
Well Kanon would not die even if he got killed.
Anyways, why did this happen? Did George and Shannon actually find Kanon in the Chappel? And what about Krauss and Natsuhi, I don't remember if Nanjo check them, but can you state their life status?

No. 281

>>280
But that is only under the assumption of Shakanon. Which Shakanon does not exist in this story.

As was implied, Shannon and George only found Kanon's hat, which was stained with blood.

Natsuhi and Krauss are dead when their bodies are found.

No. 282

Rosa, I would like you to confirm something for us.
All the twilights ocurred in a chronological order, that means the first twilight started before than the second, and the second twilight did not started until the first one already ended

No. 283

The second twilight happened before than the first twilight! The twilight order is messed up in some way!

No. 288

http://www.mediafire.com/?k8akun778o6ofdh

No. 289

http://www.mediafire.com/?n9to4u1t174sh4h

No. 290

http://www.mediafire.com/?zd054fuhujmi66d

No. 291

http://www.mediafire.com/?z30cd3q4z7z9g08
http://www.mediafire.com/?ez6v8a6gc24b2z9