>>25401
But I want those silver points!

>>25404
As a hero, granting silver points is my privilege! I'll give you a hundred!

Moving over, though I suddenly feel less philosophical now.

>>25407
Huzzah!

Love is nice.

>>25397
Well, I was really just fishing around to see if I could figure out a bit more about some people's personalities here, but that didn't go so well after all.
Certainly, both extremes have their own advantages and disadvantages, and technically speaking neither is "objectively better" depending on the person choosing between them. After all, if the person can utilize the unique advantages that come along with each situation - in the former case using physical worth and materialistic success to get by in life, and in the latter using deep personal connections with others to come across whatever you may need at any time - then either can become "objectively better" than the other.
The latter is simply a more unpredictable case, since human relationships can actually be quite fragile and you just never know when someone's going to stab you in the back for their own gain, as that's just another aspect of our own very human nature. That's why I would also go for the former - it's the more stable and predictable situation, as it doesn't rely on a multitude of vague uncertainties just to maintain the status quo.

>>25398
Well, that's why it was a simple hypothetical situation. A way to get a discussion going, though in retrospect that didn't actually work very well at all.
Not being satisfied with one of two extremes, again, is just human nature. It's in man's blood to want more no matter how much he is given, that's the one driving force that provides him with the motivation necessary to make it through the day and on to the next. Were a man content with what he had, he'd lose all motivation to go further, and his lifestyle would grow stagnant and dull. Like what happened to someone like me, for example.

>>25408
And there it is, the answer I was waiting for. You hit the nail on the head, it's a sad matter of fact that the former situation - a position of wealth and power in the business world - is enough to sway most people and make social connections without much trouble at all. Not only that, but such an amount of wealth can buy whatever one may desire.
The idea that "money can't but happiness" is an outdated one, as in today's world it very much can, so long as it isn't squandered meaninglessly of course. The world simply favours money, and there's no way around that. Generally speaking, the only ones who believe otherwise are either naive or poor, so they delude themselves into thinking that "money isn't everything."

This Old One will never leave you.

>>25408
I do see what you mean. You might only have your current situation and past situations to draw from, but none of those approached those extremes. The grass being greener on the other side, for instance, relies on the ignorance you have of actually living that type of life. So it can be seen that it's hard to get an idea of how happy you would be in either case, and therefore it could be wise to withhold from giving a definite answer, if you really considered it.

I also imagine in this case, that friends you only know over the internet nonetheless count. They don't have to be "shallow" connections. So while I have been without "real" friends at many points in my life and didn't mind it at all, and would be willing to sever all ties with people currently in my life at a moment's notice, that is with the definition of real only meaning people I only know in the flesh. All along, I have had friends on the internet.

Many people wouldn't count those as friends, but when it comes to me, there are people who have only known me online and yet known me better than any one person I have physical contact with. So I rely on that. If I had no online connections, I would probably live as a simple anonymous on /jp/. I've thought about it before, and it seems lonely, but you're right, I can't imagine how happy I would be.

As for my position on love, I have experienced having kakakata kataomoi, and I have gotten involved with people because they kakakata kataomoi'd me, without me really returning their feelings. It's alright, and I don't hate it. The idea of mutual love seems nice, but the point is, these feelings are all past tense. There's no way I'd bet any significant portion of my life on those fleeting feelings. And supposing I would, even though I'm quite sure I wouldn't, making that legally binding is like forcing the future you who you expect to be "unfaithful" suffer for their wrongs. It's not their fault if the emotion that was once there is now no longer, and it's only natural as per evolution. So it's wrong to bind them with guilt.

The same goes for your partner.

Golly, you people sure do love to talk~

>>25412
I, too, believe money can buy happiness. However, it can only buy so much. That's not to say you need things other than money to work with to be happy, but that people are hardwired to become complacent with whatever it is that they have, no matter how little or how much, and only call it happy or sad in retrospect. And that's part of the drive to constantly improve oneself you were talking about.

So it's of course not a linear scale of happiness versus money. There's a limit to how happy you can be at the present.

>>25416
Don't discourage them, this conversation is interesting.

>>25414
Well, and I've read all those bits of literature of people who were suddenly granted huge sums of wealth but never found happiness. And not all of them fiction. I am not sure of my own ability to do better.

>>25414
The conversation has me growing all nostalgic now.
This might seem a bit tangential, but the matter of having "friends" is a strange one to me. There was a time I was the most popular guy around, it would be no exaggeration at all to say that I had easily over 100, possibly even 200 people I could call "friends" - yet at the time, I always only thought of them as acquaintances. These people all considered themselves my "friends," though, so I had more personal connections than I could count.
I wouldn't even have considered myself to be a "popular" guy at the time, it just seemed perfectly natural to me. I'd borrow money and lend money, I'd be invited into a person's house when I had nowhere else to turn, and even once or twice taken other people in myself in the same way. Hell, it was more like a large family than a group of "friends," even if they were all more like strangers from my point of view.

I've lived that very lifestyle, one of said extremes which I mentioned earlier on. Living on zero money at all and surviving day-to-day purely on personal connections and frail "friendships," and sure there have been countless times I've been stabbed in the back. In retrospect I was too naive and forgiving for my own good, on more than one occasion I could easily have wound up in a ditch somewhere, that's the sort of absurd things these "friends" of mine would drag me into.

But now, that lifestyle is a world away from me. It's like I was literally an entirely different person back then. I can't even fathom how I survived so long living like that, when now the only thing that matters to me at all is these silly debates I can have with people online to pass the time, just so that I'm not left staring at a wall for all my waking hours, or cradling a bottle of whisky like it's my only real friend in the world.
Actually, to tell the truth, that bottle really is my only friend at this point. I do consider the people here acquaintances, but nothing more. Simple conversational partners I can talk to about absolutely anything on a whim without fear of being judged or ridiculed - not for the reason that such people wouldn't judge or ridicule me, but for the reason that even if they did it would have no impact on my life whatsoever. Were these people my "friends" though, that would all change. Being judged by such people would actually have some effect on me if I were to call them my friends, which would lead to me not being able to be nearly as blunt and open with them as I'd like, and in the end it would just be a generally unfavourable situation.

Friends are the kind of people I'd need to be on guard against, I feel. Strangers and acquaintances, however, I can be as open and direct with as I like, since whatever they say or do towards me won't have any significant impact on me at all. I think it's better that way, that's why I've tried to keep such a suitable distance between myself and everybody else this whole time. It's more comfortable for me to be difficult and distant, I guess is what I'm trying to say.

>>25418
Oh, I'm not. It's just an observation.

>>25416
Actually, I rarely get like this these days. Talking at length like this is something I've refrained from doing on here since my opinion always seems to be at odds with that of just about everyone else here, so there's little common ground to actually discuss these kinds of things on.

As for tonight, I'm just in a bit of a strange mood. Maybe I've been up for too long, maybe I've had a little too much to drink, or maybe I'm just rambling on about the past for the hell of it. Who knows, right?

>>25420
Certainly, I can sympathize with Kaiji in the image. Entering into relationships with people where they are in a position to backstab you is not something I tend to do. For the most part, I move on and leave people behind who considered me a friend, when I never asked it of them.

'Friend' means different things to different people. You could have plenty of people with which you share a connection strong enough that some others would consider 'friendship,' while you yourself just consider it being acquainted.

In the first place, the average human mind has a limit on the number of acquaintances it can really have, and this has dictated the size of clans, families, companies, as well as their level of subdivision. It's something like a couple hundred, but closer connections only exist in maybe a tenth of that group. Some people might call all those two hundred friends. Others might only call the fraction friends. Others still might consider themselves friends with none of them. 'Friend' is a pretty vague label.

The difference in my mind between my friends and acquaintances is also pretty vague. And I'm embarrassed to think of people as friends if they don't think of me as such, so I don't have a definitive list of who is and who is not a friend. Nor would I discuss it if I did.

Accursed basilisks and their long range.

>>25184

Why so dead?

Welp

Witch is a class in Heroes of the Feywild

Though it seems to just be a subclass/build of wizard (like wizards needed more support and options darn it WotC)

>>25427
I found you through the first link back two years ago
Lying awake theorizing, when you weren't so slow
If I made a thread it was sure that it would grow
Oh a oh
Their thread is the only sticky in teaparty
Listing the current stream for chats on D&D
and now I understand the problems you can see

Oh a oh
Read Umineko?
Oh a oh
I heard it sucks though.

Fate/Streamcats killed the imageboard star
Fate/Streamcats killed the imageboard star
Livesteam came and took your posts
Oh a a a oh

And now we meet in the abandoned current thread
If you wonder why it's the post above your head
For you see, they're all talking in the stream instead

Oh a oh
Why don't you stream fat
Oh a oh
Do it just for chat

Fate/Streamcats killed the imageboard star
Fate/Streamcats killed the imageboard star
In my mind and in my rar, we can't click back we've gone too far
Oh a a a oh
Oh a a a oh

Fate/Streamcats killed the imageboard star
Fate/Streamcats killed the imageboard star
In my mind and in my rar, we can't click back we've gone too far
Livestream came and took your posts, put the blame on dlanor knox

You are an imageboard star
You are an imageboard star
Fate/Streamcats killed the imageboard star
Fate/Streamcats killed the imageboard star
Fate/Streamcats killed the imageboard star
Fate/Streamcats killed the imageboard star

>>25429
Now all I need is background music to start singing~

>>25429
Your singing talent makes me jealous.

>>25432
Hey, Ashtaroth! Having fun playing on the ceiling?

>>25429
y u do dis.
Reminds me of a concert I went to go see.

Hi seacats~~~ how are you this evening~~ I hope that well.

>>25435
Currently waiting on the pizza I put in the oven to bake, thank goodness you posted. It's almost done and I nearly forgot it was in the oven.

>>25436
You have pizza?!

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=14388111

>>25437
Just one of those frozen red baron ones, I don't want to talk down to the corner and get the lunch special (2 huge slices + a drink for $5!).
>>25438
Oh, cool. So coins are refunded back then.

>>25439
But it's better than not having pizza.

Oooh, I'm so jealous.

>>25429
Five stars post.

>>25441
Afternoon.

>>25442
Hello there

urfatcat

>>25444
no u

hi

>>25445

Everyone is getting ready for the Holy Grail War.

>>25446
hi

>>25447
Are you guys talking in a secret chat or something?

>>25449

Nope.

im strem

yay anon gore

>>25453
Glad you are happy about it. And now that you have 1 left, it is time to reveal your actual ability.

Go prefect and win the game. Anon's true ability go!

No one talking about the pixie?! omg

>>25455
Say 'Hello' to Aeir.

>>25456
Wow, I forgot my actual sheet.
Feel free to laugh at my bad rolls. ;_;
http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=278579

By the way, I'm stream now.

>>25457
>rolling your stats

omg wheres the stream mak you lie

about everthingfirst about disney land and now about the stream i haet you

>>25454
How did I miss my other two blues? Didn't you said I could search for loopholes without spending my last blues?

>>25462
Oh yeah, sorry about that. I won't count the last two blues then. Still Sat morning, is deadline, nonetheless.

>>25460
Problem? Some groups do buy-stats and some do roll stats, I don't see the problem with either.

>>25464
You'll never roll high, you know. It never happens~

>>25465
But I've done so before! Besides, what's the fun in maximizing your stats?

>>25466
Not whiffing is fun.

>>25464
Rolling for stats is dumb. No one should be forced to play a cripple because they rolled unlucky 2 months ago.

>>25468
Uwaaaaa, that costume looks so cute!

>>25468
Obviously rules are put into place so things like that don't happen.

>>25471
I'd never take that gamble even with "rules" in place.

>>25472
Certain minimum on stat roll.
You roll the number of dice for each stat. You get like 5 numbers, put them in whatever stat you want.

>>25473
And if you roll low on all of them you're worse off thank just going with a point buy, hornhead.

>>25473
I do know how it works. I'd still rather build my character myself than rely on the dice.

Though, thankfully even the 3.5 DM I played with was sane enough to use point buy instead.

>>25475

>>25476
What?

>>25477
I'm jealous. I'm jealous of your cuteness.

>Seacats

>>25474
Well, obviously that's what the rules prevent. I can see the appeal of point-buy but there's always more than one person that decides to just abuse it and go for the most broken character that they can think of. Over course the DM is allowing it too though.

>>25480
Point buys hardly make something broken. Stat arrays hardly make something broken. But if you rolled higher than what the stat array would give you, isn't that broken?

>>25480
Counterpoint: there is the same opportunity for creating a "broken" character with randomized stats, but player choice is removed from the equation.

>>25478
I-if you say so!

>>25482
The answer must lie in the ears. If I could harness such a power for myself...

>>25482
Player choice is still in the equation on both accounts. The only way that you'll be 'forced' to play with such a character is if you something manage to get the luck of gods and roll the max one every stat possible.

>/seacats/

>>25485

You guys should read Majikoi so I have more people to discuss it with.

>>25487
Not until you play Baten Kaitos Origins.

>>25488
Huh, I'd completely forgotten about that game. Wonder if I could get it running on an emulator or something, might be a good way to kill some time.

>>25489
If mine can run it without problems, pretty sure yours can do the same.

ne

You guys should read Shikkoku no Sharnoth so that I have more people to discuss it with.

>>25493
I'll read it later.

Dreamt about stealthy shopping in a grocery store while a Japanese businessman attempts to teach me how to shop with precision. Wat

>>25497

N-nanda sore.

>>25498

PDF where?

>>25499

http://www.mediafire.com/?v7qvpoiizgwld31

Hello, everyone~

>>25500

Should probably come up with the servant stats being modified by X rules, since we're supposed to start today.

>>25502

Oh, those are done, just not in the pdf yet.

'If a master has more than 35 magic circuits, a servant's lowest stat is raised by one rank. If a master has more than 45 magic circuits, a servant's two lowest stats are raised by one rank. In the case of a tie, will go to the more class-appropriate stat.

If a master has fewer than 20 magic circuits, the servant's highest stat will be dropped by one rank. In the case of a tie, the one less-appropriate to class will be dropped.'

>>25503

Alright, that makes sense.

>>25506
Hi~

>>25505
>>25506

Hi~