omg which one is the yandere

>>20783
>good for the ambient
>for the ambient
>the ambient
>ambient

hey lion, tell to your old friends to stop spanish or I will troll them

>>20786
>Implying they arent also your friends

>>20785
Forgive me astaroth-sama ;_; (can someone change that for me? Edit button where?)

>>20780
No, I can sympathize. Can't talk about any seacats-related matters in a stream like that.

>the heads and the body are separate sprites

>>20790
Yeah, just noticed that too.

disembodied heads etc

>>20790
>>20791
>>20792
How strange.

hmmm You are so lucky astaroth you have new sprites.

>>20792
easy to paste onto images ne

>>20795
also , it will be helpful when editing new sprites
Higanbana will be also useful when creating new witches or characters for fangames.

>>20790
>>20792

...Fine, fine, I'll stream.

manual labor all the way then

done sprites derp

>>/image/690

http://www.mediafire.com/?oe11wtdrfyedgrt

who is going to suceed astaroth?

Going to bed now.

>>20805
Good night~

>>20804
I suppose I could, but I'm just working on OP with Higanbana music in background.

>>20806
Pervert

MUNCH MUNCH MUNCH MUNCH

>>20810
Hello there Ema.

>>20811
IMPOSTOR!

>>20812
>Gyakuten Saiban (Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney)
>Released on GBA October 11, 2001

>Umineko
>Released August 17, 2007

>>20813
UUUOOOOAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!

>>20637
>>20642
>>20648
Stop spread false rumor! Clearly, my harem is much larger than a simple pentagon. More like a dodecahedron, or something.

>>20672
Lazy sock. Also the Tao Te Ching is a classical Chinese text, not a martial art!

>>20815

hay did you guys post the stream??

>miss all the fun again

See, that blond guy in Catherine with his red hat would fit in with this bunch perfectly.

In other news, alchemist hears the fans' cries...

>>20821
... and they deliver.

>>20821
>>20822
Yesssss

>>20821
>>20822

Sauce where?

>>20825
/jp/

Higanbana correct music.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XAXHGPYX

Delete the music folders in the troll version and replace with these.

>Hatsune Miku performs a live concert in the U.S.

What?

>>20829
Lambooby and I went there.
it was really loud i don't like concerts

>>20830
I'm kind of surprised such a thing happened, really.

>>20817

>>20831
She ended up complaining... a lot! Other than that, the concert went like any other and was great.

>>20834
Once again, it's hard to overstate my surprise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4PHFzsYAVc

Home from class. How's everyone~?

>>20839
Making progress.

>>20839

Hello, Anchan~

>>20834
>no magnet or melt
HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT

>>20843
http://www.livestream.com/sakutarousadventures

>Redline 1080p released

>>20845
What, /a/ knows about this?

>>20847
After having /a/ endlessly hype the movie for years I was expecting some form of let-down, but goddamn that movie was beautiful from start to finish.
That Yellow Line race was INTENSE as fuck, especially with the soundtrack blaring right towards the end of it there. I mean goddamn that second nitro burst send the whole car shaking like it was trying to rip itself apart from the inside, I always love these hot-blooded anime for getting me pumped-up like that.
The Redline race was awesome as well. That Steamlight man, goddamn. Kinda funny how the racers actually spent less time firing at each other than they did at all the military troops barraging them from all sides from start to finish though.

Good afternoon, companions.

>>20849

Eye'm download Mechwarrior 4.

>watch newest steins; gate episode
>be right about FB theory (mostly #2)
>be right about first D-mail theory

Feels good, man.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15223092

Good afternoon!

>>20854
Hi.

>makes Dwarvish Paladin
>all Paladin powers are nothing but DIVINE SANCTION or boring
>Drop

Hi. Swordmage superior Defender etc.

>>20856
But sanctions let you mark lots of enemies and they don't need any input from you to trigger...

>>20857
I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome Aegis of Shielding is.

nerds

>>20858
Aegis of Shielding is great, as long as you're not dazed, only need to lock down one enemy, and CHOOSE THE MOST DANGEROUS AND RELEVANT ENEMY.

>>20858
Divine Challenge with proper support allows for a maximum of 33 damage from the mark itself, plus an opportunity attack that pushes the enemy several squares away and knocks them prone as an interrupt, and they're weakened. In other words, if it's a melee attack, it's completely negated. If it's a ranged attack, they suffer an even bigger penalty to attack thanks to being prone.

Weakening itself prevents more damage than aegis of shielding. And one paragon path actually heals whatever target was being attacked, hit or miss. So no, it's not as awesome as your aegis out of the box, but it has more potential.

>defender
>not fighter

>>20862
Don't. Start.

>>20860
Backup Defender, don't need to mark a lot etc.

>>20861
There's probably feats to improve Aegis of Shielding, too. And there's armour that grants boons to Aegis users, too.

>>20864
There's armor that heals paladins when they use Lay on Hands.

>>20865
Oh, and a nifty holy symbol that boosts challenge and sanction damage with a nifty daily power that completely disallows monsters from attacking anybody other than you. So if they can only use bursts and blasts, clustering together will outright deny them a turn.

>>20863

>>20864
Double Aegis, Extended Aegis, Greater Aegis of Shielding, Rapid Aegis Reaction, countless attack/damage bonuses...

>>20865
>get dazed
What kind of loser gets himself Dazed?

Also if I have to face more than one enemy, Encounter powers etc, Control enemy legions.

>>20868
You can't enforce more than one mark at a time right now.

lol epic tier

>>20867
CB still loading etc couldn't get there yet.

>>20869
Actually, you can't make more than one mark at a time right now without burning a daily power. And you can't change your mind if you marked the wrong enemy.

Superior crowd control etc.

>>20872
>Competing with a controller|defender
Torinn is the "defender," etc, there shouldn't be a need to mark more.

A full swordmage would easily overshadow Torinn.

>>20874
Quiet you.

>>20869
>implying I need to enforce the Mark
The -2 penalty to attack rolls is ever present. Reducing chance to hit beats doing a little damage etc.

>>20876
My marks do the same thing. They all do.

>>20872
Regular Swordmage has no such issues etc. And there's Encounter powers that let me throw Marks around, I've just chosen not to take them in favour of Controlling powers. Are you saying I should ditch Grasping Shadows etc? Sure fine. I'll retrain Channeling Shield next level to a power that lets me mark more enemies~

>marking discussion

Why not just shoot them dead before they can attack.

I do moar damage

>garage
>striker

>>20879
Why not do striker level damage without having to acquire darkspiral aura?

>>20879
>>20880
A party only needs one striker, and the rest can be leaders with enabling powers for damage.

Now grovel at my feet and beg for spirit infusion.

>>20883
Ardent does it better etc.

So if I ditch Dimensional Vortex I can mark two more enemies with an Encounter power. Clearly the way forward, who needs to negate any Melee attack completely etc.

>>20885
Totally. Go for it.

>>20884
Spirit infusion is top tier enabling power because of its range, enabling both mba and rba, and bonuses, etc. If everyone is correctly positioned and with the right buffs, tactical warlords can outdo spirit infusion when enabling a melee striker, but this won't be the case often enough.

I dunno about ardents, I've heard about the two-ardent abuse combo but don't they have to hit something in melee range to enable melee allies.

>>20881
>>20882

With high enough aura, I'll be doing more than striker-level damage, so it's fine ne.

A pure swordmage works on an entirely different field than the paladin, as they focus more on the controller aspect of the defender while a paladin is more striker-ish and the cavalier is more leader-ish.

Bern, your arguments are rather weak and unsupported. The swordmage's capability to defend becomes more and more limited as the number of enemies increases, due to requiring an immediate action to activate. They have to make up for that with powers. It's pretty much the same as a paladin in that regard, for there are a good many paladin powers that increase its capability to defend, but the paladin comes out of the box able to apply its punishment to multiple enemies every turn.

Liliane, if you were aiming for versatility with a hybrid, I argue that you are weaker in every way to either a pure wizard or pure swordmage. If "versatility" means being able to react to the situation as it changes on the battlefield, then you already gave that when you took the hybrid aegis, which forces it to remain on the same enemy until it dies. You have effectively cut the effectiveness of powerful feats like Spell Focus and Enlarge Spell in half by forcing yourself to take swordmage powers (though you can help yourself a bit by taking burst/blast Swordmage powers, though I wonder if there are very many good ones).

I could go on, but it's just a problem with hybrids in general. It's never better to be good at three or four things when you can be REALLY good at one thing.

>>20886
Clearly, I can't hold all these Immediate Interrupts anyway.

>>20889
>oneshotting
Not unless we run through several serendipitously positioned encounters full of nothing but minions clustered close together could you hope to get +50 aura.

>>20890
You understand I went into this going with what seemed fun at the time, right? I don't care about being supreme at any one field.

>>20890
So what is cavalier really good at that other classes (namely its parent class) can't do better?

>>20892

Well, I've currently got a +11 to damage, and I'm more accurate and also ranged.

>>20893
That's fine, but you're being rather confrontational about power levels. Kind of hard to NOT put you in your place then.
>>20856

>>20894
As far as I can tell, Cavalier is a stronger secondary leader, and righteous shield is rather nice. It'd be better if it had some decent feat support.

>>20890
This argument right.
>A full swordmage would easily overshadow Torinn.
No basis yup.

>powerful feats in half
A dilemma, but cherry picking feats makes up for it to some extent. This would depend on the class, probably.

>It's never better to be good at three or four things when you can be REALLY good at one thing.
This is personal preference, but I'd prefer being good at three or four things.

>>20893
If I wanted to be completely optimised I'd've stuck with Wizard anyway and rack on the attack penalties. But where's the fun in that? I mean, sure, I don't mind being told my character is Baaaad, but does it really matter if it's something I enjoy playing at least?

>>20897
Perhaps I should have said "more powerful" rather than "better."

>>20896
>confrontational
>Paladins are boring to play
>Swordmage is superior
Pardon?

>>20899
I have plans to take feats for skill bonuses, etc.

>>20896
Then what about the val-cavalier, who doesn't have a minor action heal on a per-encounter basis for their allies?

I agree, the cavalier seems leader oriented (going by their powers and features, sac-cavalier is more healing and damage prevention, val-cavalier is buffing others and itself) but does it do this better than its parent class?

>>20898
As I said, I have no problems with people building their characters based on what's fun.

>>20902
>god-awful hybrids

>>20903
This. I'm rather ashamed of how often I pick on George for playing warlock because it seemed cool at the time when that's pretty much why I chose paladin and then cavalier.

Sutuream where?

>>20904

The shion is moe, so it's fine right.

>>20903
Somewhere, you lost me. Where do I attack Attarou or George for their characters not being optimised? I think I'm one of the few who HASN'T harped on George for his character at all, nor have I made any comments with regards to Torinn.

In general, this conversation began when I said Paladin powers were either DIVINE SANCTION or boring, and that the Swordmage was thusly superior.

Neither Attarou nor I were attempting to put eachother down - you clearly are attempting to put me down.

Again, I iterate that I have made no attacks on other people for any character they've rolled or made. I've limited it to IC for flavour purposes. If you can link me to specific instances where I attacked George or Attarou for selecting something fun rather than optimised, please link me to it - I'd rather see evidence of me putting down my fellows instead of being retaliationary put down for actions I can't even recall.

>>20900
How would you know if a paladin is boring if you've never played one? There's a big difference between in play and on paper, you know.

I don't particularly like the look and feel of psionic classes other than the monk, but that opinion might change if I ever played one.

>>20908
Whoa, you're taking me way too seriously. Clearly, facetiousness doesn't translate well over the Internet.

>>20904
They don't get any of the features of the class that pure cavaliers get upon reaching certain levels, and Righteous Shield costs a feat. Meaning all you have is Defender Aura and Righteous Radiance.

Also, hybrid talent is needed to wear heavy armor, which is kind of supposed to be one of the paladin's selling points (before knight stole that too).

So you're stuck with what are pretty much the weakest class features, though at least you get to choose a virtue benefit.

>>20911
Oh you meant the cavalier hybrid.

... Cavalier|Fighter?

>>20909
Same way people decide x game or x movie is boring from a YouTube video or synopsis. Kneejerk reaction, doesn't line up with what you want out of the chosen goods, etcetera. I don't want to confine myself to a playstyle that's about marking everything, therefore, it's boring to me.

"The look of Paladin is boring to me". Does that make the comment less worthy of scrutiny? Since, clearly, you yourself justify your own "particular do not like" because it's "the look" or whatever, so enlighten me on what grounds I may not find a character boring when you may dub an entire archtype "do not like" based on looks alone.

>>20910
I maintain my position. Link me evidence of putting down George and Astaroth for choosing Fun over Optimised. I won't have you accuse me of being a blackguard without evidence to back it.

>>20910

That it doesn't indeed.

>>20914
In fact, do me one better. How am I confrontational for finding playing a Paladin boring, and why does that validate you going "Man, Lili, your character sucks completely"?

Now I'm being confrontational.

>>20913
Ease off there, missy. If you wanna know why I was so confrontational, it's probably misplaced, due to jumbling your comments with some of the others. As I said, however, I think you're taking my remarks way too seriously.

After all, if the DM disparages the character concepts, that should make it all the more satisfying to prove her wrong in combat against her shoddily-made monsters, right?

>>20917
I'll start posting with more images.

>>20917
That assumes something about my personality - that I am interested in proving myself superior to another. I have no such ambitions.

In fact, in this case it's a DM telling a relative newcomer player that their character sucks. I don't know how I should have taken that.

Should I have grinned and bore it and just thought, "Hey, just desserts for finding the Paladin boring"? Should I have just smiled and gracefully accepted being called a blackguard over acts that I can't even remember committing?

It's fun to throw someone off their high horse - I just don't recognise the need to kick someone who's on level ground.

>>20919
Oh come now, I consider myself plenty new to the whole thing myself. Maybe it doesn't seem that way in your eyes, but I hardly feel like an authority on all things DnD.

If what you want is an apology, I'll say it: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to put such slander on your character. Though if I'd REALLY thought it was such a crippled concept, I would've voiced my concerns before now, and in a more constructive manner.

im sorry guys my pc sux etc.

>>20919
It is, also, regretably in my nature to take any confrontations serious. If I can detect no good nature in it, and you yourself said you had the express goal of putting me down, then I'll treat any confrontation with maximum srs mode, just the same as I take any complaint repeated long enough as true gospel.

If you can't tell by the value of my arguments, Attarou was already sufficiently winning the argument on his own. If you can't tell, Attarou and I were being playful as we're wont to be. At least, from my side, that's how I experienced it.

And if you can't tell, yes, I'm upset that you decided to waltz in to tell me my character sucks at everything for something you now call "rash" in attributing me values that now seemly don't even apply to me.

No, I didn't know you were relatively new to this as well. I thought you were good at it what with talking about not believing in feat taxes, linking to it, apparently drawing the maps we use yourself, homebrewing all sorts of things... it had all the allures of an experienced DM.

Anyway, I'm going to cool down.

Bye.

>>20922
also yes, i mad, prblm?

Its okay, your character doesnt suck lily, I myself think its quite good.

Bye Lili.

>>20923
Also, I apologize for being confrontational. Everybody keeps picking on the cavalier and now I'm starting to feel a need to reassert my decision to pick it wasn't a mistake since it keeps getting beaten up despite high defenses, and ignored in spite of its defender punishment. It's less proactive about defending and more reactive about patching things up when (not if, when) its defender mechanic gets ignored and an ally gets crippled.

Or maybe I'm just stupid and bad at tactical planning.

Also, no sleep, so super duper grumpy today.

Anyway, hope you feel better. I really don't want you to feel alienated from the group.

>>20926
... Maybe I'm not the one to say it, but as long as you try to optimize your character in your own way then it's good to go. Also taking advice from other its highly appreciated, even George got his staff back from the Mul, so I think the party is fine right now.

>>20922
Creating is something of a personal pleasure of mine, so even though I'm new to DnD, I do feel driven to create things related to it, since it interests me. That's where the motivation to homebrew and build comes from. I'm not terribly artistic, though, so I appreciate a system that allows me to create with gamer logic rather than artistic talent, as I think I'm far better at the former than the latter.

As for experience, well, I probably do have more experience with DnD than most here--that is why I volunteered to take up the role as DM--still, though, I haven't played a whole lot. Anyways, I meant no true offense towards your character, so I apologize about my outburst.

>>20927
But the only way to optimize it right now is by somehow creating radiant vulnerability. And unless I worship a deity of the Sun domain and am a human who can get an extra at-will (Virtuous Strike), that's not going to be something I can do with any regularity like Frostcheese users can. It's totally impossible to augment it. No hit, no damage roll, no radiant vulnerability, nothing.

Otherwise start throwing fixes for Righteous Radiance at the wall and see if anything sticks.

it seems someone started the Higanbana translation project:

http://ronove.blogspot.com/

HoN news. SK disbanded and apparently has no interest in HoN/DotA2.

>>20929
That's why I said in your own way.
Also remember than weapons/equipment are also another way to tune up your character.

>>20932
But I can't do that for my punishment mechanic. Which is kind of a big deal for a defender.

>>20933
So think of other ways to make it more difficult to go after your allies.

In the "test runs" Char-Op did, I seem to recall them commenting that the cavalier's ability to daze enemies several times per encounter made it more difficult for them to directly engage who they wanted to before the enemy was dead.

>>20934
And having a bigger punishment aura thanks to being mounted?

The best advice I can think of is don't compete with Fighters for "best defender." They can't heal, and healing is good.

>>20936
But the knight is stealing my gig.

>>20938
To me, the paladin archetype's 'gig' has always been healing, and a Cavalier of Sacrifice is probably better than the o-paladin at this, and certainly better than fighters. In exchange, you lose some proactive defending, but on top of being a worthwhile trade-off, the mechanics seems to embody the lawful alignment quite well.

Then again, I value versatility over focus, which isn't so good according to charop. And then again, charop's "best options" tend to avoid taking party members into consideration.

Btw, does our party have the potential to optimize for a damage type, like radiant?

www.livestream.com/teapartyoflove enter here

>>20930
>http://ronove.blogspot.com/2011/03/umineko-byond-project.html

>>20940
If George picked starlock powers and everbody else picked radiant weapons/implements/feats, probably. But somebody'd have to come up with a consistent means to create radiant vulnerability, which usually means taking the Morninglord paragon path for its vulnerable 10 radiant damage.

Time to break in the new graphics card.

dota 2 beta signups are go

>>20946
If you have a PCI-E slot, I could conceivably send you the one I just removed.

nah ill just wait for now and talk to my friend who built the pc a while ago

since i work with him i mean

>>20945
Oh, did you manage to find one that was compatible with your system then? I was looking around for other cards that might work with a 270W PSU, but a surprising number only went up to DirectX 10 while you said you were looking for 11, and most of the good cards required a 300W+ PSU. It would probably be worth it just to look around for a cheap 300W+ PSU and then looking for a slightly cheaper GPU in exchange, but if you've found one that works then there's no problem after all.

>>20946
I did this to my PC yesterday. Had to hide some the icons, lewd etc.

>>20952
wat

>>20952
omg organize ur damn animes

>>20952
I think I need new gfx card, no?

>>20956
Duct tape should do the trick.

>>20952
>>20956
How did that even happen. Did you roast it on a campfire or something? Or have you just had it so long it's nearing the end of its lifespan.

>>20958
The two I just fried were 9800GTX+'s that were bought on release so yeah, they are pretty old. Gonna pick up a new one tomorrow, was thinking the GTX550TI since it's relatively cheap.

>>20959
Sounds like a plan then. I still kind of regret going for the 560 Ti myself, that was overkill no matter how I look at it. I could easily have gone for a 6850 or something instead, but ah well.

>>20960
The only thing I really like about the 560 is the dual DVI as opposed to a DVI and VGA slot, makes dual monitors easier etc. Haven't really looked at ATI cards. I'm sure they've improved their drivers since I last used one though.

>>20950
I went with a GeForce GT 545. It was pretty cheap but seemed to offer good performance where I wanted it and didn't have anything bad said about it. I might be wrong about the wattage of the power supply anyway.

>>20961
The DVI and VGA actually worked in my favor since one of my monitors is VGA. The converter's kinda bulky and I'm always afraid it's gonna snap off or something.

Eye've got a Radeon HD 6770M.

>>20962
>>20963
lool 3D. I'm sure I have one of those VGA to DVI converters laying around somewhere but yeah..

I really hope it's just my graphics card and not my motherboard.. that would be such a pain to replace.

On a totally unrelated note; DotA2 looks fucking amazing! I'm so hyped for this game! Open beta when?!

Alright kittens, time for bed~ Have a wonderful day/night where ever you are~

>>20964
Is that supposed to be good?

>>20966
Night night.

>>20967

Well, perhaps not top-tier good.

>>20969
Well this one was less than two hundred dollars, so I doubt it's super amazing either. It does seem to be good where it counts, though.

Integrated graphics card master race here.

>>20971
I had integrated graphics, but they weren't cutting it. And had support for only one monitor.

>>20971

>integrated graphics

>>20972
>>20973
I actually use an ancient NVidia 9500GT, so it's okay, I'm not actually integrated master race. I don't think I've ever had integrated as main card, I used another NVidia card before this and it was terrible.

>>20974
That's actually the card I just replaced. Wasn't DirectX 11 compatible.

>>20975
It's okay for me, I don't play vidya games much.

>>20976
Sure you don't want it?

>>20977
You can't use two 9500GT's together. Even if I wanted it I would have no use for it.

Right, well, I'm stepping out for a bit.

I should probably upgrade the power supply to my machine before I start thinking about newer graphic cards. Sometimes it feels like 250 isn't enough.

>>20980

I think my motherboard might be shot too. Idk wtf happened for it to happen, but I'll be bringing it over to my friend for him to double check anyway. At least I hopefully a new PC out of it, but it might be a while or I might be less seen on seacats.

Also, yes, i fuking mad.

Looks like everyone is having PC problems. Even my computer has been in the shop since yesterday.

>>20985

people where?

Too quiet........

Good morning~

>>20989
A PERSON!!! I am glad!!!

People are in school or busy probably.

>>20991
but there are usually post at this hour.

Monster makin'....

>>20993
>greatness at work
>image of Sakutarou

>>20995
Problem?

>>20997