Like this?

>>17660
"Modern?" Isn't the computer more "modern" than the phone? They even have text messaging on those phones nowadays. Aren't you just being a technophobe?

>>17658
Motivation in general.

>>17662
That's what I meant, dull-witted Watson. Use a smartphone, one of them Blackberries or Nokki's.

>>17663
Unlike what anime tells you, beautiful girls don't suddenly warp into existence in your bathroom while you're taking a bath. Motivate yourself!

>>17660
My headset was only ten dollars. That's a mic and headphones.

>>17659

A passport's only like $100, go get one!

>>17664
I tried. But motivation in just about any undertaking doesn't come to me easily.

>>17664
Expensive, and a meaningless expense, since there's no one I know that I need to contact via the phone anyway.

>>17666
It's not the price so much as how long it would take. And I'd be visiting my great-aunt in England anyway.

>>17665
Zaregoto costs around 8 dollars. If I had to pick between a good book or headset, I'll pick the book any day. I don't mean to be a social recluse of any sort, but I used to be hardcore into books and hated people back in the day.

... I'm willing to fuel my unhealthy youth feelings by reading books and immersing myself again. It's been too long that I've been rooted to earth, it's time to soar again!

>>17667
Sounds like I should come over for a month and stick a rocket up yours. Drag you around places, force you to meet people so the motivation is replaced by compulsion. At least until you find it fun and enjoyable enough that you're auto-motivated.

Though, it's probably better to examine the inner-motivation rather than force an outer-motivation in hopes of stimulating an inner-motivation, but advanced psychology isn't my domain.

>>17664

I didn't expect Lili-chan to be a To Love-Ru fan~

>>17668
What. You do at least have a smartphone, right?

>>17670
Fair enough.
>>17670
I can't figure out the inner motivation problem though.

>>17672
I don't think my cell phone is even capable of text messaging. I only keep it around for emergencies.

I can't go outside because it's on fire.

>>17673
That's why we need someone good at advanced psychology. I remember far too little from my school time to apply any of it enough to figure out why you'd find it difficult to motivate yourself for anything. Unwilling to strive for anything indicates complacency with the current situation, but I have no idea of this is correct.

Or what to do about it. You're outside my scope of help! (not that I could help anyone over the internet, anyway. Internet White Knighting is best left to guys anyway, they're better at it than I.)

>>17674
What. WHAT. Caveman.

>>17676
That's caveWOMAN to you. It's as I said, it's not worth the hassle of spending the money to upgrade it, as it's not like I'd text anyone even if it was capable of doing such a thing.

>>17675

Clearly your only option is to live with me in the frozen north.

at least you have reasons to stay outside and you are not like me that doesnt even have vacations
;_;

... I think I'll just abandon this conversation. I'm horribly outnumbered.

>>17677
I just use mine for the internet.

...That reminds me. My phone died several weeks ago and my mother's been nagging at me to replace it so she can keep in contact with me when she needs to. That phone lasted 4 years I tell ya. 4 years. It was damn near indestructible. It lost 2 buttons, the casing was literally falling apart, and the screen almost popped off twice, and it still worked. I wish they still sold them, that was the best phone I ever had.

Texting is bad, calling people is better, though nobody is left to call nowadays. Maybe will do some more stuff at rowan, but i'm leaning towards the i don't care part anymore. Didn't help that 3 different people at my job the first (official) day said I looked like I was 12.

I haven't had a cell phone since I was.. 13..?

I've never sent a text message on a phone, ne.

Cavemen, cavemen everywhere.

Texting is more convenient than making calls.

>>17686
Did cavemen have real life friends? If not, ha! Jokes on you! I'm not a caveman!

>>17687
Yeah, for some things
>>17688
>real life friends

>>17685
>>17686
The only "caveman" thing about me is that I rarely go under the rays of the sun, and I'm fairly certain that's more of a "hermit" thing anyway. I'm living more in the future than the past, constantly updating any piece of technology I own that's more than a few months old (with the exception of that one phone). Text-messaging is more of a caveman thing anyway, e-mail is far more convenient these days.

everyone ded

Cavemen.

>>17692

Stream where.

Spitwits of Nature.

Come to think of it, it looks like Maria's humping Tarou in the OP pic.

>>17695
.........for your fault i cannot unsee it....
the innocense of this picture have been destroyed.

so quiet and boring

I'll stream after I write up a post for /limbo/, geez.

>>17698
oh, you're awake

>>17698

Yay Anchan~

>>17698
<PERFECT>

>>17702

>>17704
ewww

there were a lot of mammies.

I was too shy to ask Mythos Zero for his picture.

I couldn't get Homu's face!

According to Feenie, there was a hot Sayaka, but I guess it's just too bad. I couldn't see her.

Finally getting around to organizing all my shit. Goddamn my desktop looks much tidier now.

more pix

Such a dilemma. I am rewriting my story again to change some vital aspects (for one, limiting the number of people in the story to just named people, sealing off the location to immediately eliminate suspect X and changing the relations between Detective and Sidekick), but now I'm stuck at genders.

One side of me wants to write a trio, where one is useless bagage but obligatory cute girl to serve the needs of those who want romansu in their plot. Problem here is that I'd be dividing the observation powers between three people, rather than reader and detective. The other side thinks I should make either Watson or Detective a girl so to stimulate romansu between the two, but that'd feel so plain and overdone.

what do

>>17717
Useless moe-appeal girl is Watson's sister and Detective is in love with her.

>>17718
It doesn't take away the issue of there being three powers of observation, making the reader have to follow not only the observations of the narrator, but also those made by Useless Moe Blob.

>>17719
Hmm. You could possibly give useless moeblob less "observation time" than the other two, or have her and Watson observing at the same time as some sort of boke-tsukkomi Watson-duo. A back-and-forth style like that also opens up the opportunity for serious-Watson to answer some of the questions silly-Watson asks that the reader might be interested in (ie. "Well what about this cigarette butt, Watson A? The wife didn't smoke at all!" "Well you see Watson B, her husband was a heavy smoker. We can't use a cigarette butt as a clue, in any case!").

>>17717
>>17719
So basically, you want to throw in a female character for a romantic subplot, but you don't want the character to be an extraneous viewpoint or part of a cliche Watson/Detective relationship.

Let's assume you make a third character to fulfill the female role. Does the reader necessarily need to follow her observations? If I had a detective novel where the detective had a love interest, I wouldn't necessarily expect to follow the point of view of the love interest.

>>17720
Hmm, that gives me ideas. The useless moe blob can ask the questions I'd expect the reader not to know, so to give a cue to explain.

>>17721
No, but any character will invariably make observations, and she needs to be sold as a likeable character within the Liliverse. Stoic girls with no attempts at socialising but who are so stunningly beautiful that a hundred out of a hundred men would turn around to look at her as she passed them in the streets don't sound realistic to me.

It's decided. A trio. Our ever-faithful, ever rigid Watson, the twin-tailed sister of the detective and our anti-social detective himself. Dreamteam getto.

Naturally, George will still die.

Initially I'd written the story so that the Watson was a man in his late twenties, who worked as an accountant and thus was observant of things others wouldn't find interesting at all: as an accountant, clearly an accurate account of things is necessary!

He'd go to a holiday location based on a friend's recommendation, meet with a detective coincidentally and then solve a murder mystery.

>>17722
I've changed that to instead, the Watson and detective already know all the characters in the story. Rather than having the characters introduce themselves and the hyper-observant Watson getting their traits down to a T from simply meeting a single time, he'll have already done so over the course of a day, having met on the plane to the exact same holiday location.

Rather than a solo trip, he's taken along his love interest. Who brought along her younger brother, thus ruining the Watson's romantic outing. It's perfectly anime-ish!

The Watson is now 19. His love interest is 19, and I'm undecided on the detective being older, younger or simply a twin of some sort. Maybe a half-brother from a different mother.

Either way, they already met George and Co aboard the plane as a result of well, travelling together. One day by plane, one day to travel to the location, so the story starts on the third day. Total coincidence with Zaregoto, I swear.

>>17723
Since the one who runs that location is actually someone I know, I am intricately familiar with how the place works. I know, for example, that most guests are brought in by travel agencies, and therefore the plot shall be that the only guests are those brought by the travel agency at a time when most people don't have holidays. It'll be a perfect quiet season.

The location is atop a mountain, so there's no chance someone's "snuck into" the complex to kill George. Therefore, the only suspects are the staff (limited amount due to few guests) and the guests. It's a perfect situation.

My only effort will be to establish a need to detective-out the murder, but I have every confidence I can come up with some convoluted reason to permit a bunch of adolescents to snoop about and discern who killed George by slamming a knife into his head.

Of course, the situation is important. The knife used has a legend behind it, which is a vital clue as to the killer's identity.

>>17724
Well, all the clues are in place, I just need to write the story! Here I go!

Streaming art.

>>17725
And yes, I'll be violating Van Dine's "There shall be no love interest". Maybe if I wrote for a musty bunch of old men I'd abide by it, but my target group is a bunch of adolescents enamoured with móe, and myself, I like stories with romansu in them because it's interesting to see that develop outside of the mystery itself.

Relations between people is at least twice as fascinating as a puzzle.

omg romansu sux
just skip to the goddamn cuddling

http://www.nicozon.net/watch/sm14746145

ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne
Nostalgia~!

Interesting, so where's anon?

>>17732
>terrible tense clashing
This is what you get for not proof-reading.

>>17732

>>17734
>I suppose it can't be helped.

>I guess it can't be helped
>I suppose it can't be helped

>>17735
True to George etc.

>>17738
Hiyo-oh.

Fantastic progress so far.

I've got Anon the Tour Guide, Imouto Da the Secretary, George Norwell the filthy pedo, Emily the shy artist, and Maggie Atpeas the eccentric.

Of course, Lina is our valiant moe blob (I need to write more moe into her but I hate moe!), Allen is our anti-social detective (twin to Lina) and our nameless narrator, who I still need to name, because pulling a Kyon would be uninteresting.

I've written up to arriving so far, which should be fine, huh.

>>17740
Why are you adding a useless moe-blob again?

>>17741
Appeal to móe.

>>17742
A cute girl to plaster around. The art alone would make people go, "Omg, I want to read it!", if only because of the cute girl.

>>17742
If that's what you're doing, why not make a strong-willed tsundere instead?

>>17744
A strong-willed tsundere is impossible to write. I don't know how a tsundere thinks.

>>17745
Oh. I see.

It's all coming together and I can't stop, ahahahahaha!

y u do dis, dreams

history etc

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>>17749

>>17750
subtle showing of discontent over the names etc

hmmm it seems this is a quiet morning..

>>17751
Suggest a better name etc. I deleted those files because I changed and rewrote parts of them.

>>17754
.........hello.....

>>17753

>>17756
What a jerk protagonist.

>>17757
Allen's provoking him! Besides.

>>17755
It's always so easy to figure out who you are~

>>17758
Anyway, the detective isn't supposed to be super-likable, but of course he isn't supposed to be hated either. I thought calling people idiots would be fun to add, because animu~!, but I might change it in the final draft.

What I have so far is the opening where they're on the bus, and the protagonist explains to Lina about folklore. They arrive, where they shortly meet the staff, and find their cottages. They spend the day doing things, eat dinner, but at night they are all drummed up together because George was killed. Of course, our protagonist discovered the body.

After everyone explains why they didn't do it, a staffmember explains that the police isn't going to go up the mountain at night. This is in the native language, so they assume no one hears, and everyone is sent back to the cottages, which are locked behind them.

The protagonist and Allen share the same cottage, so Allen wants him to repeat the alibis provided by everyone to get the basis for investigation.

Next up, sneaking out of the cottage and commencing operation CSI. Once they do that, the important clues will be lighted on.

In the morning, they're all woken up and gathered for breakfast. Talks ensue with some people.

Police arrives in the afternoon, apprehend the wrong culprit, whereupon Allen graciously swoops in by having the protagonist explain why The Police Is Wrong.

Real culprit is apprehended, our heroes get showered with appreciation and they jet back home. 8D I am such a fantastic author.

Not pedo ahhhhhhh

>>17759
>Implying i am trying to hide it
Hello