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215 No. 215
Kinjo, you are so crafty. You know that. You had our heads going around in circles, second guessing everything. Wondering what was up, and what was down. What was truth; what was fiction. Even making us go all sad and depressed. We had to rally together through force just to overcome it.

But despite our incompetence, we've got you now. You're now just a snake, and we have you by the tail, holding you high into the hair, where you squirm helplessly.

The culprit is;

Well I'll get to that in a second. Want to let you squirm a little more before we get to the unmasking after all.

The hows:

2nd Twilight: The culprit killed Rudolf and Kyrie with a poison trap.

3rd Twilight: The letter was already on the table before the group went into the parlor after the first twilight.

4th Twilight: Kinzo's corpse was taken and burned in the boiler.

5th Twilight: A trap was attached to the atlas so when Hideyoshi picked it up. BANG!

6th Twilight: The culprit shot Maria used the passage to enter the bathroom and shot her.

7th & 8th Twilights: Rosa and Genji were shot and killed in the servants room.

Krauss' death: The culprit shot and killed Krauss while he trying to protect Erika.

Now who is this horrible monster that murdered the Ushiromiya family?! The culprit is in the trap, now time to pull off the mask and reveal them. Squirm all you want, but nothing can escape this blue web.

The heartless monster who murdered so many people is

KINJO!

Shaking? Quaking? You should be. For unlike last time, where our wording choices and such killed the truth we were close to, we've got it now. If only we would have had Genji use your name, the culprit couldn't have been denied. It is kind of funny really, the actually culprit's name was in our last theory post.

Knox's 1st: The culprit must be someone in the story.

Kinjo was shown to us through flashbacks, he was in the story. He is not a person X, he is Kinjo.

The trick here is Kinjo IS and ISN'T Nanjo. Kinjo is actually the 19th person. Kinjo is another personality of Nanjo's. Kinjo was born from Nanjo's depression and sadness for not being able to save Beatrice's life for Kinzo, and from preventing Kinzo from going down a dark road. And since Kinjo is a personification of Nanjo's negative feelings, seeing his granddaughter's condition get worse and worse had a very negative effect on Kinjo. When he saw the chance to get the money to save his daughter, Kinjo thought, if only I had the Ushiromiya family's money, and BAM instant motive. Desperation and need, the two things any murderer has.

1st twilight: Kinjo faked his death using Kinzo's corpse. Which was later thrown into the boiler.

Nanjo's personality took over then and placed the letter to Yasu, which makes Yasu cooperate with him.

Here's your solution; you happy? Pleased with yourself that you made yourself the villain?

(I might have missed some errors, or some facts. Tell me if I did)
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>> No. 216
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So, we are going for the desesperation path? Sure why not. My Kinjo version had some problems.
>> No. 217
This theory is completely crazy.

However, I don't have anything better, so feel free to submit it~
>> No. 218
>>217
Don't worry, my own theory is probably more crazy.
>> No. 219
Rosa, Kinjo says my theory is a bit more near to the truth.

" In this rare of not probable rokkenjima, Yasu never solved the epitaph. Therefore, in the verge of death Kinzo nobody to inherit his fortune.
So he gave it to his only friend, since nobody else was worth of it, Nanjo.
this "kinjo" stuff is nothing else than a title, or a new name. Like the old theory of inheriting a title. But instead of calling himself Kinzo, well he fused both names. "
>> No. 220
>>219
I thought perhaps that "Kinzo's" death was only the death of a personality, and then Kinjo took over his body from there.

The later body-burning was actually Nanjo's body in this assumption.

The overall goal, of course, would still probably be to make Yasu the next heir.
>> No. 221
Also, I ask him if he can deny than the human once know as Nanjo is the culprit, and he said he can't.
>> No. 222
>>221
That seems to imply that Nanjo was never Nanjo and was always Kinjo, throughout the whole game. Though in that case it makes his first denial of our theory that Nanjo is the culprit a cop-out--it's like denying that Shannon is the culprit because it was Yasu. So I wonder if that's a trick of some sort.
>> No. 223
>>222
We should discuss it on a chat.
>> No. 224
(Rosa)
Maybe Kinjo is actually a 18'th living person?
>> No. 225
>>224
Knox's 1st should deny that. Erika never met or heard of an 18th person Kinjo on the first day.
>> No. 226
Rosa
I'm starting to lose interst in this completely. Maybe we should just throw out our 3rd theory and say Nanjo got Kinzo's title during the story. So at the start he was Nanjo, but then before the murders he was Kinjo.
>> No. 227
The culprit is indeed Nanjo, it's just than his "name or title" is not Kinjo.
>> No. 228
>>227
is now*
>> No. 229
>>227
If that is true we were basically right. The first guess....
>> No. 230
>>227
If that was actually the case, then I'd be rather agitated that the first guess was wrong on such bogus grounds.
>> No. 231
>>229
His red was, "No person with the name of Nanjo is the culprit" At the same time he said he was feeling cruel. Alongside Meta laugthing at his red.
>> No. 232
http://www.livestream.com/anonsecretbase
>> No. 233
Rosa
>>231
Worse than other stupid word play.
>> No. 234
What if Nanjo is actually Kinzo, and then the body in Kinzo's study was actually Nanjo's?

One in a quadrillion odds for Nanjo to be born with 7 toes, is that right? So he could have been in the boiler too.
>> No. 235
>>234
Clues for disguise theory: "Nanjo" says he has a granddaughter with a mental condition. This is Yasu, who is actually Kinzo's granddaughter (and daughter but let's not get into that). Any other strange behavior noted on Nanjo's part would be helpful here.

To solve the study/shed dilemma, we just have to say at one point or another Kinzo was faking death. It should probably be sleeping in the study at the start of day 2.
>> No. 236
>>234
>>235
Anyways, I can't join the stream from here, and I must be off now to get back to work. Good luck with debating.
>> No. 239
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Me: In this rare of not probable rokkenjima, Yasu never solved the epitaph. Therefore, in the verge of death Kinzo nobody to inherit his fortune.
So he gave it to his only friend, since nobody else was worth of it, Nanjo.
this "kinjo" stuff is nothing else than a title, or name a new name. Like the old theory of inheriting a title. But instead of calling himself Kinzo, well he fused both names.

Kinjo: ..... well .... it's closer than what Rosa posted
Me: we should have gone with that, maybe.
Kinjo:you should have
if I recite on Van Dine rule, the truth should be obvious
>> No. 240
Meta has a habit of accusing the gamemaster themselves of being the culprit. After that, any crazy wordplay theory needed for them to be so is right up his alley.

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