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Oh I am one yet many, I open this gameboard to defy those that deny the existence of Witches its an standard mystery So I will start with the short yet long story. Oh This game is ruled by one of the two set of rules, your objective is solving this gameboard and discovering the set of mystery rules that I am using. You can only use 50 blues per twilight.

Summary October 4:

The day of the awaited conference started, and the 10 ushiromiyas appeared on Rokkenjima's harbor, Gohda like always offered himself to escort the ushiromiyas around Rokkenjima. Kumasawa with a smile started making jokes related to mackerel and told the cousins about the importance of the fish while enjoying the view of the rose garden. Later when they entered the mansion Maria explained with delight the legend of the golden witch, Rosa didn't like that at all so she told the others to go greet Krauss and Natsuhi, after everyone left, Rosa proceeded to hit maria , while complaining
about her Uus and her behavior and her "Social life".Suddenly Rosa felt as if the hall darkened Then she heard a voice she didn't knew..... she turned and around and was shocked to see that the portrait was moving

The woman in the portrair praised Rosa for giving discipline to Maria, and offered her a deal, if she delivered the letter before the dinner she would do magic to calm Maria right now. Rosa accepted and the witch performed magic to put Maria to sleep. It was a peaceful rest.

Rosa took Maria in her back and went with Gohda Kanon and Shannon to help her carrying maria to the guest room
where she could rest.

after leavin Maria in the guest Room , Rosa went to the mansion to greet Natsuhi and Krauss.

30 minutes later George asked Rosa if Maria was awake , Rosa told him that no, and that he should ask her later

Jessica Battler George and Shannon talked about their past, and then Battler told Shannon that he came back for her to bring Shannon back with him. Jessica and in special George were shocked by the notice..Shannon was speechless since She didn't know what to do.

During the rest of the afternoon nothing special happened until the dinner, when Rosa announced the letter of the witch. The adults severely cuestioned Rosa and Maria.

After that chaos and discussions ensued.

Summary of October 5 part 1: the first twilight

Rosa woke up early and decided to take a bath and prepare herself to leave her room. Since Maria stayed with the cousins she wasn't with her.

She suddenly recieved a knock Rosa opened the room rightaway and it was Genji that had an scared face.
Rosa asked him what happened and Genji brought Rosa to the parlor Genji opened the door and Rosa was speechless

Some bodies were found in the parlor arranged as if they were sitting for tea. when Rosa saw the bodies she inmediatly recognized the bodies of 5.........they were Kanon,Jessica,Kumasawa,Eva and Natsuhi

Rosa inmediatly told Genji to cover the bodies of the 5 that were found....but Genji corrected Rosa that in fact there were 6 bodies, Rosa inmediatly recognized the last body.........It was Maria......

Rosa cried hard and started to swear that she would catch the culprit.

A red as a gift :
In this Gameboard Shannon and Kanon are different persons
Rosa is the detective of this game.
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4659
There is no closed room here. Genji went to find Rosa after discovering the bodies so anything could have happened during that time.

Additionally I have the suspicion that,
Maria died before the first night.
That's right, Maria was killed in the hallway when the "golden witch" granted her a "peaceful rest".
>> No. 4660 edit
>>4659
Maria was alive until she was killed the night of murders
Maria certainly was sleeping until that moment
This is a closed room
>> No. 4661 edit
>>4660
Can I search the room as all?
>> No. 4662 edit
>>4661
You can search in all the room.
(deductions will be spoken with purple )

There is a strong medicine odor in the room
The walls are filled with blood and blood scratch marks
Judging by the walls there was a fight
It seems they didn't have a peaceful death. the six of them have a hole in their necks
>> No. 4663 edit
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The tea was drugged.

Also I would like to know where the keys to the room are and the status of the locks right before the bodies were found.
>> No. 4664 edit
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>>4660
However, you also said that Maria was questioned by the adults after dinner. And, there were ten Ushiromiyas at the harbor, but neither Krauss nor Natsuhi were present, so there is one mystery Ushiromiya unaccounted for. So there are clearly two Marias! Ozaki's previous blue is still effective!

In any case, even if it's a closed room, there's a possibility that one or more of the six people inside are not really dead. One of the fakers could construct the closed room from the inside.
>> No. 4665 edit
>>4664
There is only one Maria Ushiromiya

No one is faking their deaths
>> No. 4666 edit
>>4664
the other ushiromiya is Kinzo he alive in this game.
>> No. 4667 edit
>>4663
Poison is not involved in the murders
drinks or food are not involved in this murder
>> No. 4668 edit
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4668
Just to clarify, I'd like you to say:"no drugs were used for the murders on the first twilight" in red. Otherwise my blue still isn't denied.

Anyway, like I mentioned I still want to know:
-where the key to the room was and the location of the master keys the moment Rosa discovered the bodies.
-my blue answered about something happening during the time Genji investigated to when Rosa arrived.
-And to top it off, the status of the locks on the room the moment Rosa investigated.

Like I said before this information can easily gathered by the detective, so I don't expect you to hold out on me.
>> No. 4669 edit
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>>4668
Okay

no drugs were used for the murders on the first twilight

>where the key to the room was and the location of the master keys the moment Rosa discovered the bodies.
There are 5 masters keys and they are the only keys of the parlor.
Kanon Shannon Kumasawa Genji and Gohda are the owners of the 5 keys
Kumasawa and Kanon's key weren't used for opening/closing the door of the parlor

>my blue answered about something happening during the time Genji investigated to when Rosa arrived.

Nothing happened
also
the orders of the events were these :
1-Murders
2-Genji found about it and went to told Rosa
3-Rosa's investigation.


According to Nanjo they were killed at 01:00
Genji found the corpses at 6:00 and he went to report it to Rosa at 6:05
Rosa finished investigating at 6:35

All the servants are innocent and the 5 of them had their keys all the time.

>And to top it off, the status of the locks on the room the moment Rosa investigated.

Genji was the one that discovered the room
When Rosa Investigated the door was open
and the door opened and closed 2 times when Genji opened and closed the door and when Rosa opened the door

>> No. 4670 edit
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Let's think about why it's Van Dine's Isologue.

Reason: Van Dine's Isologue rule 2, No willful tricks or deceptions may be placed on the reader other than those played legitimately by the criminal on the detective himself.

Explanation: After Rosa's scolding of Maria, the "Witch" in the portrait praised Rosa and put Maria to sleep, that is a deception to the reader and detective. Rosa could have been hallucinating due to factor X. Regarding Maria, she was drugged/method X, by the culprit while Rosa was hallucinating, that made her sleep peacefully for a limited amount of time, then killed her. Of course Rosa, the detective, is not the Culprit.

Why it's not Knox's Decalogue.
Reason: Knox's 2nd, Knox's 1st, Knox's 4th, and Knox's 6th.

Van Dine's 11th: A servant must not be chosen by the author as the culprit. This is begging a noble question. It is a too easy solution. The culprit must be a decidedly worth-while person — one that wouldn't ordinarily come under suspicion.

Kanon was killed, Shanon must be innocent due to Van Dine's 3rd.

The set of rules used in this story are... Van Dines Isologue!
>> No. 4671 edit
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4671
Maria died on the first twilight, but was drugged before it.
>> No. 4672 edit
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Thanks, that'll clear things up. Lets started for real.

The culprit was hiding in the room when Genji investigated, once Genji left the room the culprit did the same.
>> No. 4673 edit
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4673
Drugged/method X*
>> No. 4674 edit
>>4670
>>4672

When Genji found the murders No one was hiding in the room. there was no way to escape from the room
since Genji locked from the outside

ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO OPEN THE DOOR FROM INSIDE
(Some servants installed the doorknob badly it seems..)

The van dine rules are the ones that rule this gameboard
but one of the devices of rule 20 is disabled
>> No. 4675 edit
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4675
>All the servants are innocent and the 5 of them had their keys all the time.

Van Dine's 11th.

Knox allows for the servant to murder.

I suspect Nanjo of being the murderer.
>> No. 4676 edit
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>>4675
Nanjo is too old to murder
>> No. 4677 edit
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By Van Dine's 11th, none of the servants are the culprit.

By Van Dine's 12th, there is only one culprit.

Shannon, Kanon, Gohda, Kumasawa, and Genji are not the culprit.

Kanon, Jessica, Kumasawa, Eva, Maria and Natsuhi.. Are not the culprit.
They are possibly the Culprit's helper however.

Krauss, Hideyoshi, Rudolf, Kyrie, and Battler have a possibility of being the culprit.

Van Dines 11th, there must be no love interest.. Hideyoshi and Krauss are not the culprit, the culprit is either Kyrie, Rudolf, or Battler, two of those are helping the culprit, or just don't know.
>> No. 4678 edit
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4678
And of course, Nanjo is too old to murder.
>> No. 4679 edit
>>4677
1. The reader must have equal opportunity with the detective for solving the mystery. All clues must be plainly stated and described.

2. No willful tricks or deceptions may be placed on the reader other than those played legitimately by the criminal on the detective himself.


3. There must be no love interest. The business in hand is to bring a criminal to the bar of justice, not to bring a lovelorn couple to the hymeneal altar.


4. The detective himself, or one of the official investigators, should never turn out to be the culprit. This is bald trickery, on a par with offering some one a bright penny for a five-dollar gold piece. It's false pretenses.


5. The culprit must be determined by logical deductions — not by accident or coincidence or unmotivated confession. To solve a criminal problem in this latter fashion is like sending the reader on a deliberate wild-goose chase, and then telling him, after he has failed, that you had the object of his search up your sleeve all the time. Such an author is no better than a practical joker.


6. The detective novel must have a detective in it; and a detective is not a detective unless he detects. His function is to gather clues that will eventually lead to the person who did the dirty work in the first chapter; and if the detective does not reach his conclusions through an analysis of those clues, he has no more solved his problem than the schoolboy who gets his answer out of the back of the arithmetic.


7. There simply must be a corpse in a detective novel, and the deader the corpse the better. No lesser crime than murder will suffice. Three hundred pages is far too much pother for a crime other than murder. After all, the reader's trouble and expenditure of energy must be rewarded.


8. The problem of the crime must he solved by strictly naturalistic means. Such methods for learning the truth as slate-writing, ouija-boards, mind-reading, spiritualistic se'ances, crystal-gazing, and the like, are taboo. A reader has a chance when matching his wits with a rationalistic detective, but if he must compete with the world of spirits and go chasing about the fourth dimension of metaphysics, he is defeated ab initio.


9. There must be but one detective — that is, but one protagonist of deduction — one deus ex machina. To bring the minds of three or four, or sometimes a gang of detectives to bear on a problem, is not only to disperse the interest and break the direct thread of logic, but to take an unfair advantage of the reader. If there is more than one detective the reader doesn't know who his codeductor is. It's like making the reader run a race with a relay team.

10. The culprit must turn out to be a person who has played a more or less prominent part in the story — that is, a person with whom the reader is familiar and in whom he takes an interest.

11. A servant must not be chosen by the author as the culprit. This is begging a noble question. It is a too easy solution. The culprit must be a decidedly worth-while person — one that wouldn't ordinarily come under suspicion.

12. There must be but one culprit, no matter how many murders are committed. The culprit may, of course, have a minor helper or co-plotter; but the entire onus must rest on one pair of shoulders: the entire indignation of the reader must be permitted to concentrate on a single black nature.

13. Secret societies, camorras, mafias, et al., have no place in a detective story. A fascinating and truly beautiful murder is irremediably spoiled by any such wholesale culpability. To be sure, the murderer in a detective novel should be given a sporting chance; but it is going too far to grant him a secret society to fall back on. No high-class, self-respecting murderer would want such odds.

14. The method of murder, and the means of detecting it, must be be rational and scientific. That is to say, pseudo-science and purely imaginative and speculative devices are not to be tolerated in the roman policier. Once an author soars into the realm of fantasy, in the Jules Verne manner, he is outside the bounds of detective fiction, cavorting in the uncharted reaches of adventure.

15. The truth of the problem must at all times be apparent — provided the reader is shrewd enough to see it. By this I mean that if the reader, after learning the explanation for the crime, should reread the book, he would see that the solution had, in a sense, been staring him in the face-that all the clues really pointed to the culprit — and that, if he had been as clever as the detective, he could have solved the mystery himself without going on to the final chapter. That the clever reader does often thus solve the problem goes without saying.

16. A detective novel should contain no long descriptive passages, no literary dallying with side-issues, no subtly worked-out character analyses, no "atmospheric" preoccupations. such matters have no vital place in a record of crime and deduction. They hold up the action and introduce issues irrelevant to the main purpose, which is to state a problem, analyze it, and bring it to a successful conclusion. To be sure, there must be a sufficient descriptiveness and character delineation to give the novel verisimilitude.

17. A professional criminal must never be shouldered with the guilt of a crime in a detective story. Crimes by housebreakers and bandits are the province of the police departments — not of authors and brilliant amateur detectives. A really fascinating crime is one committed by a pillar of a church, or a spinster noted for her charities.

18. A crime in a detective story must never turn out to be an accident or a suicide. To end an odyssey of sleuthing with such an anti-climax is to hoodwink the trusting and kind-hearted reader.

19. The motives for all crimes in detective stories should be personal. International plottings and war politics belong in a different category of fiction — in secret-service tales, for instance. But a murder story must be kept gemütlich, so to speak. It must reflect the reader's everyday experiences, and give him a certain outlet for his own repressed desires and emotions.

20. And (to give my Credo an even score of items) I herewith list a few of the devices which no self-respecting detective story writer will now avail himself of. They have been employed too often, and are familiar to all true lovers of literary crime. To use them is a confession of the author's ineptitude and lack of originality. (a) Determining the identity of the culprit by comparing the butt of a cigarette left at the scene of the crime with the brand smoked by a suspect. (b) The bogus spiritualistic se'ance to frighten the culprit into giving himself away. (c) Forged fingerprints. (d) The dummy-figure alibi. (e) The dog that does not bark and thereby reveals the fact that the intruder is familiar. (f)The final pinning of the crime on a twin, or a relative who looks exactly like the suspected, but innocent, person. (g) The hypodermic syringe and the knockout drops. (h) The commission of the murder in a locked room after the police have actually broken in. (i) The word association test for guilt. (j) The cipher, or code letter, which is eventually unraveled by the sleuth.
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>>4679

Clarify the meaning of your statement, I am slightly confused.
>> No. 4681 edit
>>4679
ah no, nothing just posting the van dine rules.
one part of the rule 20 is not being followed by this gameboard.

also I refuse to answer your blue.
>> No. 4682 edit
>>4678

When Genji found the murders No one was hiding in the room. there was no way to escape from the room
since Genji locked from the outside

>> No. 4683 edit
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4683
Maria was drugged by the hypodermic syringe to be put to sleep, Kanon,Jessica,Kumasawa,Eva and Natsuhi were also drugged by it, then killed, there was a fight due to the fight's marks on the wall, purple declaration.

Kryie is the culprit, Rudolf and Battler either didn't know or helped.

Thanks Ozaki for the advice.
>> No. 4684 edit
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4684
Is the first twilight finished?
>> No. 4685 edit
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4685
The victims were killed by an empty needle (inject air straight into the blood giving ranging inflictions, and example could be a aneurysm), the contents was used up by Maria earlier.

Thanks Ozaki.
>> No. 4686 edit
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4686
The culprit is either Kyrie, Battler, or Rudolf, the "Dumb accomplice" trick was used with Kanon. Kanon injected air into each of the victims as they struggled, then the culprit finished them off. Therefore being the killer. The culprit escaped swiftly and joined the crowd.
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4687
Replace Kanon with Kumasawa, who had no love interest.
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>>4683
>>4684
>>4685
DID YOU REALLY THINK I WOULD USE MY OLD TRICK AGAIN FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLS *CACKLE*CACKLE*CACKLE*

AN HYPODERMIC NEEDLE WASN'T USED FOR THE MURDER


about the culprit blue I refuse to answer again.
>> No. 4689 edit
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4689
Any sort of needle was used to do so.
>> No. 4690 edit
>>4689
no sharp objects were used for this murder
>> No. 4691 edit
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4691
A dull cylinder was smashed into their necks, somehow piercing.
>> No. 4692 edit
>>4691
a cylinder didn't pierce their skin.
>> No. 4693 edit
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4693
WHOEVER SAID THERE WERE HOLES LIED. WHOEVER SAID THAT IS THE CULPRIT. I DEMAND TO KNOW WHO SAID THAT.
>> No. 4694 edit
>>4693
the victims have a hole in their neck
>> No. 4695 edit
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4695
I want a full detailed atopsy on each of the victims.
>> No. 4696 edit
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4696
I suspect a smell of medicine is in the room to make us suspect it, a trap.
>> No. 4697 edit
The six bodies have a hole in their necks , they have white pale skin.
Maria's wounds looks a little older than the rest of them.


>>4696
maybe~
>> No. 4698 edit
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4698
Occam's razor.
The culprit has an accomplice, one of the servants helped in locking the door after the victims were killed.
>> No. 4699 edit
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Who cares how they died.

Battler is the murderer, Shannon, Rudolf, and Kyrie are accomplices. Regarding Battler's reason to murder.. To take Shannon back, the Ushiromiya family might not allow that, so he killed them, with the help of his family and lover. Van Dines 2nd related DIRECTLY to the Detective, my reasoning is valid.
>> No. 4700 edit
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Van dine's 3rd*
>> No. 4701 edit
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>>4698
>>4699
Shannon and Battler are innocent
since the issue of the promise was settled in the story Shannon can't be the culprit

>> No. 4702 edit
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4702
Define innocent, does innocent include helping the culprit?
>> No. 4703 edit
>>4702
innocent = zero involvement with the murders or the culprit No accomplice No murderer completly innocent.
>> No. 4704 edit
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4704
Kyrie is the culprit, Rudolf is her accomplice. Kyrie killed all of them, Rudolf helped in some fashion. You refused to answer in red before, this is most likely the closest to the truth. If you do not answer in red, this is considered victory.
>> No. 4705 edit
>>4704
Rudolf and Kyrie are innocent
I didn't want to reply since its to early.
>> No. 4706 edit
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The culprit's been widdles down to Hideyoshi and Krauss..

They both had an argument with their wives, then killed their wives, then noticing that they committed murder, they teamed up and killed all the others, so that they wouldn't get caught or something. The smell of medicine is to point to Nanjo, who will be the scapegoat for them.
>> No. 4707 edit
>>4706
I refuse to say it now, just focus in the closed room.
>> No. 4708 edit
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4708
Gonna think up something that doesn't violate Van Dine's rules.
>> No. 4709 edit
>>4708
*Sigh* Okay I will grant you a green truth

Green in my games are truths that are hints.

The Closed room have a very fatal flaw
>> No. 4710 edit
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Krauss is the culprit, Hideyoshi teamed up with him because he hated Eva for X reason.

Hideyoshi is the culprit, Krauss teamed up with him because he hated Natsuhi for X reason.

The culprit with the help of his accomplice murdered the six, the culprit climbed out a window with the help of his accomplice just right before the others found this.

This is the truth if you do not reply in red.
>> No. 4711 edit
>>4710
the windows were never opened

There is not proof enough in the story
>> No. 4712 edit
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The locks/entrances are damaged in someway to allow access in and or out the room.

There is alternative entrance/exit to the room
>> No. 4713 edit
>>4712
The locks/entrances aren't damaged inthat way to allow access in and or out the room.

There isn't alternative entrance/exit to the room

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I'm handling two gameboards at once, my head's starting to hurt. I'm gonna take a 10-20 minute break if you don't mind.
>> No. 4716 edit
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The culprit was not the one to lock the room.
>> No. 4717 edit
>>4716
the culprit entered the room and closed the room
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Maria was allegedly with the cousins, and yet.. There's Maria, murdered!
>> No. 4719 edit
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The culprit is Maria! Maria drugged Rosa and made her think that she saw that!
>> No. 4720 edit
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wait...
The room wasn't locked when Genji found it!

Or

The door has an autolock!
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Blah blah about my hideyoshi-krauss theory, they somehow got a double of Maria, perhaps using Ange's body who somehow managed to come, then murdered everyone.
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>>4718
>>4719
>>4720
.........arghh yes the door was certainly closed however it didn't had a lock.

Anyway how did they died? and how did Maria appeared there?
>> No. 4723 edit
>>4721

20. And (to give my Credo an even score of items) I herewith list a few of the devices which no self-respecting detective story writer will now avail himself of. They have been employed too often, and are familiar to all true lovers of literary crime. To use them is a confession of the author's ineptitude and lack of originality. (a) Determining the identity of the culprit by comparing the butt of a cigarette left at the scene of the crime with the brand smoked by a suspect. (b) The bogus spiritualistic se'ance to frighten the culprit into giving himself away. (c) Forged fingerprints. (d) The dummy-figure alibi. (e) The dog that does not bark and thereby reveals the fact that the intruder is familiar.(f)The final pinning of the crime on a twin, or a relative who looks exactly like the suspected, but innocent, person. (g) The hypodermic syringe and the knockout drops. (h) The commission of the murder in a locked room after the police have actually broken in. (i) The word association test for guilt. (j) The cipher, or code letter, which is eventually unraveled by the sleuth.
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Who is the real Maria, the one with the Cousins or whatever, or the one here?
>> No. 4725 edit
>>4724
You can interview the survivors
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>>4725

I would like to interview all the survivors.
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>>4726
Rosa search in all the room , but only Genji and Kanon are there. According to Genji they are the only ones that have been here. (You can ask them anything right now)
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Kanon is dead, I can't ask him anything.

I want to ask Genji what happened before, during if possible, and after the murder.
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>>4728
Well, Rosa-sama,I was sent to sleep by Natsuhi-sama and Krauss-sama.
Kanon-kun and Shannon-chan went to play cards with George-sama,Battler-sama,Maria-sama and Jessica-sama.
I didn't notice anything unusual....until now
by the way when I was just about to enter I heard the laugh of Beatrice-sama on the hall-ways.
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I would like to ask Kanon the same thing.
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>>4722
I don't understand. Maria was in the cousins room the night before. Jessica was one of the victims so we already know that someone from that room left. There isn't any mystery to how she got into the room since she entered the same way the others did.
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Clair, explain.. Did we miss something or did you mess up the story with a logic error or something.

Say it in red.
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>>4730
Sadly No, Rosa-sama I didn't see or hear anything...

Shannon.....of all of this house it had to be you....

>>4731
Then how did they died? No sharp objects were used in the murders and a gun/chiester couldn't have been since someone would have hear the sound
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>>4733
How large was the wound then?
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I would like to ask Shannon what happened.
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>>4734
http://images.wikia.com/bleach/es/images/c/c7/Ulquiorra_mostrando_su_n%C3%BAmero.png basically in this area and this size.
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That's no needle...
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The victims were killed by small bombs, when they swallowed their TEA/WHATEVER, BOOM WENT THE SMALL BOMBS.
>> No. 4739 edit
>>4738
Small bombs?

No. Small bombs weren't used for the murder
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Is the hole clean cut like that? Seems rather impossible.
I'm going to say that the culprit used weapon X to create the holes. Just jammed right through the necks.
Maybe use a spear like a shish kabob.

Or maybe a gun.
Simply blow the hole in there.

In any case, this game follows Dine so if it was something extraordinary then it should have been hinted.
>> No. 4741 edit
>>4740
according to Shannon and Genji no one heard anything since they were near the parlor at that
time. and if the culprit carried a gun they would have heard the sound.
>> No. 4742 edit
>>4740
nothing was jammed in the necks.
>> No. 4743 edit
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The victims were killed somewhere else using method X and weapon X, then brought there before anyone was near the parlor
>> No. 4744 edit
>>4743
the despaired victims were killed in the parlor
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THE CULPRIT USED THE HYPODERMIC NEEDLE TO SEDATE THE VICTIMS, THEN BIT THEIR NECKS, THE SIZE PERFECTLY RESEMBLES THE SIZE OF THE MOUTH. NO WEAPON WAS USED. THE GM ALREADY ADMITTED SHE BYPASSED OR WHATEVER VAN DINE'S 20TH!!!
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...Maria was brought in there, then killed the same way, except she was already sedated...
>> No. 4747 edit
>>4745

go to this post : ~~

>>4688


also the culprit didn't need to touch the victims with his mouth
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It wasn't used for murder, it was used to sedate them, let's say one of them was having a rampage, it happens in mental facilities all the time. You can't get around that.
>> No. 4749 edit
>>4748
Certainly the six were sedated
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I would like to closely look at the necks, see what sort of SHAPE or THING could have done this.
Maybe something like an ice cream scoop.
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DETECTIVE'S AUTHORITY~ TIME TO INSPECT THE CORPSES~ MY LAST REQUEST PWEAAAAZE~~!
>> No. 4752 edit
>>4750
lol an ice cream scope wasn't used for the murders
it was something more easier~

The hole is so big that you can put your hand on it
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Sedation is already solved so...
The culprit punched a hole in each of the six's necks. The culprit used a baseball bat to make a hole in the victims necks. The culprit drove slightly over the victims necks. The culprit used HEAVY OBJECT X TO MAKE THE HOLE IN THE VICTIM'S NECKS!

ahaha.wav
>> No. 4754 edit
>>4753
a baseball bat wasn't used
the culprit didn't punched the victims barehanded
No heavy object was used

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Rosa is an accomplice. She carried Maria into the parlor herself.
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This requires me to know an object I may not know, such is not good practice in Mysteries.

I demand to know what objects could have done this for the game to be fair.
>> No. 4757 edit
>>4755
Rosa loves maria too much to do something that horrible
Rosa is innocent

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Did the culprit have to use any parts of his physical body (Like hands, feet, mouth, etc) to do this? This does not include actions like swinging. Was any of his bare body used?
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