>>3637
[Just because the tape seal was on the door it did not prevent someone from entering through the door, and due to reason X the tape seal did not break.

>>3638
Acknowledged.

>If someone would to try to open the door while the seal is placed there it would rip.

What?

The culprit is a ghost.

Ok seriously.

The culprit broke up their molecular structure so that they could go through the space in between the keyhole, they then reformed inside the parlor, killed the two and then used the same method to leave.

>>3640
So in other words...MAGIC!?

>>3641
Nope; Science!

Also

Maria shoved herself through the keyhole. She is only 9 so she might be small enough.

>>3642
None of those 'theories' are correct.

>>3643
There are actually 2 doors to the parlor. Only 1 was sealed.

The door has another smaller door inside it, and since only the larger part of the door was opened the seal didn't break.

The door is one of those doors that the top and bottom can open separately only 1 of them was opened, and since the other one had the tape seal it didn't break.

>>3643
Although I did get a good chuckle out of this one.

>>3644
All three of those blues are incorrect.

>>3646
Ok, confirm something for me.

When you said that the culprit entered the room. You mean that there full body entered the room correct?

>>3647
Yes. The culprit completely entered the parlor before killing Nanjo and Kumasawa.

>>3648
I know you said something about the seals and door before, but please repeat this exactly as said.

"After Battler sealed the door, the door was not 'opened' until the discovery."

>>3649
I refuse.

>>3650
Nanjo and Kumasawa were killed after Erika checked the seals.

>>3653
Nope. The last seal Erika checked was the one on the parlor. So that would have only been seconds before discovering the corpses.
Nanjo and Kumasawa were killed before Erika checked the seals.

>>3504
>Three intact seals
Erika's room, Parlor, Servant Room, Study.

Battler sealed the parlor twice. Once before the murder and once after the murder.

>>3655
Well she couldn't check the forth one Battler placed because it was on her own door.

>>3656
Incorrect.

>>3658
The killer was a snake in this goddamn mansion. It snuck under the door, strangled Kumasawa and Nanjo, then departed by slithering under the door again.

>>3659
Ahaha.
In this gameboard animals didn't not murder or help to have a murder take place.

>>3660
Repeat.

Between Genji locking the parlor door for the first time, and Battler sealing the parlor door, the number of people in the parlor never exceeded 2.

>>3661
Between Genji locking the parlor door for the first time, and Battler sealing the parlor door, the number of people in the parlor never exceeded 2.

Repeat:

The culprit did not touched the seals.

The culprit did not touched the door.

>>3663
The culprit did not touch the seal on the parlor.

I refuse the second.

Between Battler sealing the parlor door and Genji breaking the seal on the parlor door, the number of people in the parlor never exceeded 2.

>>3665
Between Battler sealing the parlor door and Genji breaking the seal on the parlor door, the number of people in the parlor never exceeded 4.

I said two. Between Battler sealing the parlor door and Genji breaking that seal, the number of people in the parlor was 3 or more at some point, and it was never less than 2, living or dead.

>>3667
Correct.
Between Battler sealing the parlor door and Genji breaking that seal, the number of people in the parlor was 3 or more at some point, and it was never less than 2, living or dead.

>>3667
So Kumasawa and Nanjo cannot have left, unless someone else entered to permit them to leave.

One of Kumasawa or Nanjo left after someone entered the room.

>>3669
Neither Kumasawa or Nanjo left the room from the moment Genji locked the door to when their bodies were discovered.

So we've narrowed down a lot. Mysteries to be solved:

- The status of the seal.
- The entry into the room.

If we assume Battler is the killer, we do away with any need of removing the killer from any of the sealed rooms. And even if we don't, marking someone as killer is easily done.

Now'en.

It is possible to enter the room through the door while the door is closed. Like through a smaller door in the door for your pets, or the door is actually a revolving door.

>>3671
>if we assume Battler is the killer
Well good thing I already denied that. Anyway,
It is not possible to enter through the door while it's closed. You would have to open it.

Only Battler and Genji touched the door in this gameboard.

If the door was opened from the inside, the seal would not be damaged or removed.

If the door was opened from the outside, the seal would not be damaged or removed.

>>3678
Battler and Genji were not the only people who touched the door during this gameboard.
I mean, it's the parlor. More than half the people touched the door at one point or another.

If the door was opened from the inside or the outside while the seal was placed as I said it was, it would break the seal.

>>3679
Fine, then:

After the Battler put his seals and before Genji open the door, no one touched the door.

The culprit touched another seals, but not the parlor's.

>>3680
After Battler placed the seal to when Genji broke it, at least one other person touched the parlor door.

The culprit didn't touch any of the seals that Battler placed.

>>3681
After Battler placed the seal to when Genji broke it, more than two others person touched the parlor door.

Battler placed didn't placed all the seals.

>>3682
After Battler placed the seal to when Genji broke it, no more than two people touched the parlor door.

I've already said that Battler sealed the rooms.
See below.
>>3572

>>3683
You said that Battler sealed that rooms, but could it be more seals in another rooms.

There are more sealed room who Battler didn't sealed.

And after Battler placed the seal to when Genji broke it, Kumasawa and Nanjo didn't touched the door.

There are more sealed rooms who Battler didn't sealed.

>>3684
Yeah, some of the rooms were still sealed from when Erika placed them in the first night, but all you need to know for this mystery is that: All the seals Erika put on the Parlor, Study and Servants' room were broken before the group split up.

From when Battler placed the seal on the parlor to when Genji broke it, Nanjo and Kumasawa did not touch the door.

Battler only placed a single seal on the door of each room.
Just in case anyone doesn't already know that.

>>3686
Battler put his seal in keyhole of the parlor's door. This is why Genji destroyed his seal. Erika's seals are intact.

The three intact seals are the same that Battler placed, but Erika's seals aren't.

>>3688
Erika made Battler's seals, they are the same type of seal.
The tape seal was not placed on the keyhole.

>>3690
Hmm.. not sure if this violates the red.

The culprit pushed a pen/pencil/something similar under the tape seal lifted the part on the door frame up, there by allowing someone to enter the room and not break the seal, since it is not currently blocking the door crack. They committed the murder and then exited the room. They then used the same item as before as a weight to push the free side of the tape seal back in the spot. Since it was never actually removed and then put back on Erika and Battler didn't notice.

And since they never touched the seal, it sneaks by that red as well.

>>3691
Gah.... that's CORRECT!

The way you moved the door frame was sligtly different, but that is the answer.

>>3691
Awesome, Rosa/Mira-san! Good job!

If anyone is still wondering what was the exact method:
The culprit removed the part of the door frame that the seal was attached to. Then seeing as it was attached to the door with the seal the culprit opened the door with the part of the door frame attached, killed Nanjo and Kumasawa, closed the door, locked it, then put the door frame back into place.

Rosa got a similar way but this is a way to bypass the duct tape seal.
Looks like we'll need to find a new type of seal~

Culprits moving to avoid the red?

>>3704
You really can't trust GM's can you?
Although I guess that is to be expecting since ib4f and all.
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