Let me just confirm something before I post another actual theory.

First paradox: Genji complied to go to the storehouse, and/or tied up because someone threatened to throw off the plans if he didn't comply.

Fifth paradox: Natsuhi couldn't open the lock because it wasn't the actual lock to the parlor. In other words, the lock was moved or switched either with the saw and wiedling torch or by some other mean.

Last edited at 13/07/01(Mon)19:55:42

>>12263
The plans were unrelated to the reason that made Genji comply.

The lock in the parlor was the actual, expected lock that can be opened by the roman numbered keys and the master keys.

Last edited at 13/07/02(Tue)08:01:20

>>12266
What an interesting red. If it’s not Krauss’s key that’s wrong, nor the lock, then it must be... something else.

Let’s review:

>--1.) What did he need to check ?

>--2.) For such a proud man, his murder remains simple... Or is it ?

>--4.) How did he get in there ?

>--5.) What happened with the lock ?

In order to answer these questions, I'm hoping they can be dashed away with this one single trick. The possibilities are dwindling, and only so many other theories can take this one’s place without needless wordplay.

But once again, what is Theseus’s Paradox? It raises the philosophical question that if an object had all its components replaced, is it really the same object? With that in mind, I come to the conclusion that there are more guesthouses than what meets the eye. Let's just cut to the chase:

There is an additional guesthouse on another island. An exact replica, except for one difference: The locks are somewhat different. What are the implications of such an idea?

Well,

PARAODX 1

Genji needed to do something related to shifting everyone to another location. Why does Kinzo's will require an additional guesthouse? Perhaps as a failsafe, or to move everyone over if someone found the gold in time to not cause a commotion. I know that gold is very heavy and can't be moved that quickly, so instead of just moving the gold away for the winner of the riddle, why not just move the whole family? Once everyone fell asleep, the culprit (probably Kanon and/or Shannon) helped Genji move and drug (all that tea and food amiright?) everyone to the other island because someone solved the riddle in time. On the new island, they all put back everyone in their respective rooms. Perhaps they then were trying to hide the boat back to the new storehouse or something, that's why Genji needed everyone to stay in their rooms. The culprit somehow coerced Genji to comply really quickly with something at that location; my next guess would probably be because he felt some sort of guilt towards the culprit, maybe how the results turned out. Bang. He died.

PARADOX 2

With a different guesthouse comes a different lock where Genji's words have no meaning and power. Someone who was not at the parlor locked the door with one of their keys that worked on this particular lock after killing Krauss.

PARADOX 4

See above. Method of murder solved.

PARADOX 5

See above. I still support that Rosa first solved the riddle and that's why she left for one reason or another. Natsuhi's key wouldn't work because Genji's word has no meaning in a new guesthouse.

The underground safe below never had to be locked and filled with gold in the first place as that was the other island, or if it was locked, someone just used or stole a roman numeral key, or the safe doesn’t need keys at all since it’s a different safe. The culprit (Kanon or Shannon) put back all the objects when they were done.

Last edited at 13/07/02(Tue)11:54:39

>>12268
Hahahahahahaha ! HAHAHAHA ! Hah !hahaha.... Haha..
Sorry, I shouldn't laugh... Heh. No alternate guesthouse or island existed. The game takes place on a single island containing a single guesthouse.

>>12268
Forgot that. Genji did not feel guilt toward the culprit.

>>12269
Paradox 5: The lock wouldn't work because it was broken. Doesn't have to be because the culprit busted it.

The lock wasn't broken, it was just jammed and everyone freaked out because death everywhere.

Last edited at 13/07/02(Tue)12:25:10

>>12272
The lock wasn't broken or jammed.

Last edited at 13/07/02(Tue)12:26:31

>>12274

Krauss's old key was damaged in such a way where it stayed whole, but the lock wouldn't work.

The parlor lock is special where it can be activated and deactivated somehow.

The air pressure between the room and outside was too great, making it hard to open the door.

There was a force keeping the lock still.

Natsuhi wasn't using the old key by mistake.

Last edited at 13/07/02(Tue)14:50:37

>>12275
Krauss's key wasn't damaged.

Why the parlor lock ? I'm guessing you mean the dining room... No lock has any special feature.

The air pressure had nothing to do with it.

No force was applied on the lock.

Natsuhi didn't make a mistake.

Last edited at 13/07/03(Wed)01:46:47

I wonder if a truths about the numbered rooms can be also applied to its bathrooms respectively.
Because of in other case, for paradox 2, the culprit just stayed in the bathroom and then, as was said earlier, blended into the crowd.

>>12281
The bathroom is counted as belonging to the room. Every red that applies to the rooms applies to the bathrooms inside.

Squitcher likes to post red, but they never use gold.

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>>12283

>>12283
How rude they are to edit and punch that person.

Anyway lets get back on topic. I may as well give this mystery a shot now.
I haven't finished rereading the OP post, let alone check all the red however I wanted to try this theory before I forget.

>Krauss, Eva, Rudolf and Rosa along with their wives, husbands and children
>Genji, Kanon and Shannon would accompany them.

There is another character who we are not aware of who fits into one of those categories.

For example Lion. If Lion existed on this gameboard they could very well be considered Krauss's and or Natsuhi's child.

>Genji handed each of the direct children an old-styled key.
>He then handed the husbands, wives and children regular keys

This also means there could be not just a person but also a key we are unaware of.

>>12286
There are no more than 14 person on the island.

And an old one.

The only keys on the island are the three master keys, the 4 numbered keys, the 7 regular keys, the storehouse key and Genji's briefcase key. No other key ever existed at any point on the island.

Last edited at 13/07/04(Thu)15:22:03

>>12287
Not going to deny it? Ok
I guess I'll just continue reading the thread for now then.

Krauss's Death

Alright you are going to need to be more specific in some reds.

In this post
>>12254
You responded to Rosa's theory but it may have just been worded wrong.
Natsuhi had already opened the door once the group arrived. It was said they all came running after.
So Natsuhi just opened the door and killed him. Then screamed.
Nice and simple.

Rudolf's Death.

>Rudolf was killed through the opening formed by the chain lock.
He was killed after locking the room himself.
>A key was used to lock the door.
If not for your recap nobody would even think this red was for Rudolf.

Rudolf entered through the window. It was left open/unlocked or he entered in his own way.
After all there is a general red saying "No doors or walls were removed." Nothing about windows.

The door was actually only set by the chain. The deadbolt being set was an illusion.

Rosa's Death

Seems there isn't much red for this one. I won't bother randomly guessing then.
The chair had been set up to fall as the culprit left in order to lock the room. It then gave the illusion the door had been broken/locked.

>Natsuhi didn't make a mistake.
>Natsuhi didn't lie

Natsuhi still did not use Krauss's key on purpose to open the door. All she said was "“What now... I think this lock is broken.” but I guess she lied about that? So maybe The lock was at some certain temperature where the lock material expanded or contracted too much for the key to register inside. Perhaps the culprit used the wielding torch, my seemingly favorite object in this game. Anyway, Natsuhi never even tried turning the key or at least she pretended to.

Last edited at 13/07/05(Fri)00:18:50

>>12289
I'll redirect you to these reds :
>>12227
Second Paradox
Krauss was already dead when Natsuhi left the parlor.

Fifth Paradox
Had a chair been placed to block the door, they would have found it when entering, however all the chair in the room were in order and far away from the door.

And for Rudolf's...

Fourth Paradox.
Well for that first blue, doors can only be locked while closed.

The window was left locked by Natsuhi when she left after having heard Shannon screaming.

Are you saying windows were removed ? No window was removed.

The room was indeed locked.


>>12294
Fifth Paradox.
Nothing was wrong with the lock's temperature.

I already said she didn't lie, didn't I ? She did turn the key.

>>12295

Well, Natsuhi didn't lie to anyone in her own dialogue, but the narrative could have if you get my point. I'll just push this one more time out of stubbornness: Natsuhi did not use the roman numeral key one when attempting to open the door.

Other explanations:
There was a force holding the door in place besides the lock.

Natsuhi turned the key but pretended it was still broken/locked in place.

>>12266
and to correct my latest derp:
Natsuhi couldn't open the lock because it wasn't the actual lock to the dining room. In other words, the lock was moved or switched either with the saw and welding torch or by some other mean.

Last edited at 13/07/05(Fri)01:57:24

>>12296
Fifth Paradox
Natsuhi did use the roman numeral key one to attempt to open the door.

No force held the door in place besides the lock.

That would fall under lying, wouldn't it ? Natsuhi believed what she was saying.

It was the actual lock to the dining room.

>>12297

Instead of calling it a force, how about there was an object or something adhesive keeping the door closed besides the lock, either in the hallway or in the dining room.

There was an object keeping the lock locked, or something inside the lock like described above.

Natsuhi is a "fragile" woman and was for some reason in a lessened state to be unable to open the door with the key.

Probably beating a dead horse, but:

>"“What now... I think this lock is broken.”

A thought popped into Natsuhi's head that the lock might be broken after she tried to open the door, so she didn't lie when she said that. Therefore, Natsuhi was still was honest on that end, but still had the ability to pretend. She was either in a state of believing what she was thinking on face value, or she believed what she really thought was really what she was "thinking". Uhh.. yeah.

And to return to the previous paradoxes (two and four) with wordplay time!

The "Natsuhi" you are referring to in previous reds may refer to the translation of Natsuhi meaning "summer day" (summer fire?) in Japanese. Therefore, the human Natsuhi could have left the parlor or group at any time, but the "summer day" could have left when someone closed the blinds etc when leaving to the corpse.

Last edited at 13/07/07(Sun)01:17:46

>>12298
Besides the lock, nothing kept the door locked.

Natsuhi was not so tired she couldn't turn a key or open a door.

... What ? I get what you're saying but... It doesn't work, does it ?

When I talk about natsuhi, I'm referring to the single person named Natsuhi.

>>12301
Uhhh, Natsuhi was able to unlock the door, but there was still an object/adhesive material either in the hallway, door, or dining room keeping it closed I suppose that part wasn't fully denied, since you said 'locked' has no other meaning in this game.

Natsuhi was feeling something else besides tiredness to be unable to open the door, like fear of what was on the other side.

>>12304
Nothing kept the door closed apart from the lock and whatever is called that metal thing that closes the door when you turn the knob.

Natsuhi was perfectly able to open and unlock the door from both a physical and psychological standpoint

>>12305
Sorry, trying my best. Although, I want this to end probably as much as you at the moment, so I haven't stopped thinking just yet.

First Paradox: He received an order from one Ushiromiya to their servant! So it's not considered "heir" authority, just his honorable duty to follow orders from the family he serves. It's not a normal condition because it's not just any ordinary person or fellow servant, it's probably an order from a survivor high up on the chain like Natsuhi, Hideyoshi, or Kyrie for instance. "Ushiromiya" status, if you will.

Second Paradox: Okay, trying to put myself into the closed room. I just put the key into Krauss's pocket after locking the door, or I entered via window if Natsuhi already locked the door when she left. How should I get out? The culprit kicked or rammed the door open, the lock (or at least the metal part holding the door closed) still intact and unbroken. a piece of the wall and/or door-frame outside the room from the hallway broke off. They use a welding torch or by some other means get that part of the wall back on, the door still in the locked position the whole time.

Fourth Paradox: With this now somewhat-broken door frame that was welded together, the culprit was able to open the door outward while locked when removing the piece, and stabbed him through the chain. The culprit closed the door and welded the piece back on.

I mean, what's a locked room besides the lock in addition to the wall holding it in place?

Fifth Paradox: Therefore, Natsuhi never unlocked the door to begin with when turning the key. She turned the key the wrong way. Either on accident or purpose, or the culprit somehow switched the lock upside down or flipped around and she was turning it to the locked position even though she thought she was unlocking it.

If that's not the case, I'm hoping you can just repeat a little something in red (or at least the parts that are true): "Natsuhi used Krauss's old key when trying to open the dining room door. She turned the key, and then successfully unlocked it. Natsuhi then applied a force in order to open the door but it still wouldn't budge."

>>12312
I'm not holding out against you. If anything I'm thankful that you're still trying.

First Paradox.
No such status exist. Under normal circumstances the only person that could have made him comply to such an order is Kinzo. And as you know, he couldn't have made such an order.

Second and Fourth Paradox
The door wasn't tampered with in any way.

That's fine. Natsuhi used Krauss's old key when trying to open the dining room door. She turned the key in the correct way.
The lock was not flipped upside down or around.

I'm gonna ask you to stop the blue-race for a short while, it won't be long.

Last edited at 13/07/14(Sun)08:27:31

Alright, it's about time we wrap this up. Camphor, I hope you're still there.
We'll enter the final phases of this game soon enough. I just need you to solve the 1st paradox first. As of now, no hints are available.
I'm waiting for you, don't disappoint me !

>>12440
I'll be here in short intervals seeing as my free time over the summer has ended, not as much as I or you would probably like. Hopefully other players may want to help. Sadly, I don't have any particularly insightful ideas on the truth after all this time. The best I can do is narrow it down:

Genji complied because it was a rational and logical choice, not because of any particular feeling held towards the culprit. Mainly, he was in a good state of mind not influenced by let's say something like alcohol, drugs, or predisposed feelings.

The culprit's authority in some way made him comply. Also, if Genji did not comply, he would face a negative consequence. Maybe the culprit never personally threatened to kill anyone, but he had the notion that if he didn't go through with this, more people may die or ill will may fall upon the Ushiromiya family.

Kinzo's will still has some role in his death. Perhaps Kinzo had additional plans for a fun mystery game to solve that may be supplementary to the riddle, but the culprit took advantage of the situation when helping out and shot him.

Kinzo is really alive! For example, he's in a boat outside of the island and instructed Genji to comply that falls outside the purview of his will.

Last edited at 13/08/15(Thu)14:33:53

>>12441
A shame to hear, but can't be helped.
Anyway.
It was indeed a rational and logical choice, but once again it's a choice he had to make only because of the circumstances involved.

Well, you almost got it. [r]There is no culprit's authority to say. Genji complied because of a defined reason, not a simple uncertain notion.

Kinzo's will has nothing to do with his death.

Kinzo is dead

You know, you almost got it right way back, I just decided to nitpick on a detail, try to look back.

>>12442
So, the circumstances under which Genji complied was that someone/the culprit solved Kinzo's riddle. With the will complete, Genji is just free to take orders from someone other than Kinzo.

Unless I glazed passed something else, just to be thorough, Genji would be rewarded in some way that involves money in a way that changes the circumstances of taking an order. Or Someone other than the culprit threatened to hurt/kill any family member/servant if he didn't comply.

Last edited at 13/08/17(Sat)16:53:17

>>12489
Well, finally, wasn't hard, was it ?
Someone other than the culprit threatened to hurt/kill any family member/servant if he didn't comply.

The First paradox is now finally fully solved.

Now, it's time to enter the final phase.

>>12492
Ready when you are, with whatever the final phase entails since I'm in a rut.

And so, here comes the final part, last hints are given, and the solution is the nearest it has ever been. Hopefully, you won't miss this opportunity to uncover it, and finally solve this case.

As things are present, you will be given three tries Camphor, yes, you Camphor, since you stayed until the end. If you want to offload one of your tries to another, you are free to do so.

The way these tries work is simple : A try corresponds to a theory, a theory to solve the howdunnit, the last three remaining paradoxes, and how they were made possible. Do not concern yourself with the who and why for now.
Of course, it is your win when your theory is correct, and your loss when it is wrong, denied by a red truth.
However, a single red won't make it fail if your theory is fundamentally correct : If your theory cannot be denied with just some changes, like not being as broad, changing some time, then you are allowed to continue on that theory freely until it works, or doesn't.

If at the end of your three tries, you still haven't found the truth, I'll take care of revealing it myself. Quite a downer ending, wouldn't it be ? Hopefully you won't let that happen.


Of course, in current conditions, I can't give you your tries and then let you off to brew your theories alone, since otherwise we wouldn't be where we are in the first place.
So, before the game of theories start, you will be sent to a peculiar version of Theseus's Island and be allowed to move freely there, I trust you'll find a lot of things of interest to you over there, and maybe you'll get the truth of it somehow.


So Camphor, do you accept the terms proposed ? Or do you continue the way it has been since now ?
Your choice.

>>12496

I accept the terms, ready as I'll ever be. Hope the solution is as fascinating as it is difficult.

>>12499
Through dubious means, you find yourself inside of a basement. Dark, shadowy, seemingly all made out of old stone and bare except for a stone table in the middle, some torches on the wall and a safe on the rear-end of the room. Yes your recognize it : It is the the so-called « secret basement » of the mansion.
You can see a pair of stairs leading upwards, to the rest of the guesthouse, you guess.
Taking a quick glance at the safe, you notice it looks like the door is open by some centimeters, but not enough to let you see what’s inside.
What do you do ?

I walk to the safe and open it to check it's contents while examining the stone ceiling for anything out of the ordinary like cracks or bumps.

>>12511
You motion towards the safe while scrutinizing the ceiling.
As the rest of the room, it is dark and old, and you can see a fair amount of cracks in it, though it seems they are mainly cracks in the dirty white paint of the room, and not in the stone itself.
As you get within hand’s reach of the safe, the door violently flungs open, making you jump in surprise. However, nothing comes out of it, and you’re left wondering just what happened.
Leaving that question for later, you examine the content of the safe : it is all the objects that were found on the last day by everyone. That is, a knife, a handgun, a wielding torch, an hacksaw, a bloodied raincoat and.... Nothing else ? You’re sure there was something else in there too back then.
They all seem to be slightly glowing, seemingly hypnotizing you while you lay eyes on them.

I check for any residue on the objects that may be causing the glowing (if it's something other than the glow reflecting from the torches.) I look at the edge or hinges of the safe, perplexed on what could of caused the automatic motion...
Hmmm... It seems Genji's key is missing. I'd better check upstairs soon.
Before heading upstairs, I finally take a closer look at the stone table in the room.

>>12513
As soon as your fingers touch one the objects, they all disappear in a single instant, leaving your hand to reach into dead air, however, you feel as if you know where they are. If you want to use any of them, you’re sure simply thinking about it will allow you to use it.
You can see nothing wrong while checking the edges of the safe, but you seem to hear a faint cackle coming out from somewhere.
The stone table is old, dusty, a dirty white-grey and utterly featureless, as much as the rest of the room. You see nothing of interest, besides a rectangular spot seemingly devoid of any dust. Looks like something was there not so long ago.

Rectangular spot. . . Something like a briefcase perhaps... Oh well, Time for some testing!
I look up at the ceiling again, and go through each object as I either jab at the ceiling or attempt to light it up with the torch as I stand on the table for any weak spot above me.

>>12515
After looking at it again, you figure the spot is too small to have contained a briefcase.
You try to violently murder the ceiling with the various objects you collected, and you achieve the great feat of completely removing the old paint, leaving only the natural grey of the stone until you change that as well by burning the it with the wielding torch, leaving a great burning mark on the spot. You figure you won’t manage to take your revenge against the ceiling today.

Last edited at 13/08/18(Sun)13:40:35

Ah wait, I didn't really examine the items very closely before I used them. . .! Might be too late now.
Recalling how many bullets I fired, I check to see how many bullets were left in the gun and how much welding fuel was left inside.

After inspecting those items, I walk slowly up the stairs. I suppose that spot is too small for a briefcase. A gold bar perhaps? That's something missing from the safe as well.

Last edited at 13/08/18(Sun)13:47:39

>>12519
You check the ammunition left on both items, but to your surprise, they’re fully loaded. You’re sure you used them though. Looks like you won’t have to bother about ammunition.
You take the stairs. After what seems like too long of a walk through a too narrow staircase, you reach the end, a plain grey wall barely illuminated thanks to an antiquated torch a little further behind. You spot what looks like light switch on the right wall, just beside the corner between the walls of the corridor and the one which blocks your way. You press it with your finger, and to your surprise, it does not activate any light. Instead, the featureless grey wall slowly moves away from you, then turns 90° and moves again, this time towards the right until it touches the right wall.
Through the newly made passageway, you see a way more modern and clean corridor, and a fair amount of doors of varying sizes.

Last edited at 13/08/18(Sun)14:15:30

Map
http://boonce.org/up/start%20mapbare.png

Right, the guesthouse. How could I forget. . .
I suppose I'll check what's in closest proximity first.

I make my way down the hallway towards the dining room, and closly examine the door and it's handle before I attempt to turn it in order to enter. While doing this, I call out for any signs of life.

"Hello! Anyone here!?. . ."

>>12524
Your call echoes in the corridor, and only deadly silence answers it. As you walk down the corridor, you notice how lifeless everything feels, it is as if time had stopped, and you were the only living person in the whole building, maybe even the whole island. You also notice a sort of dark purplish aura which seems to float in air, making the scenery all the more unreal.

You do not see anything out of the ordinary while examining the dining room door and its handle, but as you put your hand on it to enter, you’re taken aback by a sudden pain and remove your hand as suddenly. You can still feel a burning sensation going through your hand, but the pain quickly fades away. As you step back from the door, a big, blood-red five appears on it somehow.
Looks like you won’t be able to enter for now.

Last edited at 13/08/18(Sun)14:26:41

Hmph, that's some way to treat a guest.
I shake my hand to cool it off in pain, and turn down the hallway towards Room 1. As I approach the next door, I try once more to enter. This time I put my jacket between my hand and the handle.
If this happens again, I guess I have to resort to other means. . .

>>12526
This time being more weary, you approach the door to room 1. You approach your jacket-covered hand to the handle and... Suddenly you feel a unknown force sending you flying backwards.
You painfully stand up, noticing that there is now at least 5 meters between you and the door. You really need to watch out for doors it seems. Once you’re effectively standing up again, you observe the appearance of another number on the door, this time, the number two.

Eh, I don't know what I expected. . . Though I don't want to give up on doors all together just yet.

Wanting to make my way towards the servant's room for signs of any keys, I get up and heads towards the door leading to the main entrance hallway in the hopes that these doors are probably different.

Last edited at 13/08/18(Sun)14:50:28

>>12528
Strangely enough, the doors to the entrance hallways and the one to the servant room offer no resistance. The room is devoid of anyone, and the only key you can find is the Storehouse key, glowing like the previous objects, as soon as you touch it, it disappears the same way.

I exit through the main entrance and walk a short distance from the guesthouse to look around. After examining the gazebo, I note the storehouse. I walk to the metal door and attempt to use the key.

>>12530
As you step outside, you come upon an impressive view : The whole sky shines the same dark purple that the aura in the air, and up until the horizon, there is no sight of a single patch of blue. In the middle of the sky sits a huge round figure, emanating a pale yellow light, you cannot say whether it is the moon or the sun, but it seems to be big to be either.

The gazebo presents nothing of interest, save for an empty teaset left on the table.

The storehouse, though is another story. You couldn’t say for sure how it looked before, when the story was unfolding, but you’re rather sure it looked nothing like it does now. You fail to translate into words its appearance until your tongue somehow stumble onto the « void ». Yes, in fact, the whole storehouse seems like it’s made out of void, of non-matter. It sits there, black , shadowy, and clearly out of reality. Something in your gut tells you it wouldn’t be a bright idea to try to enter it now. For some reason, in front of the storehouse lay an axe and a fire extinguisher.

While thinking that, you hear a cracking sound, and suddenly onto the shadowy walls of the storehouse appear yet again red insciptions.

First appears a big number one, similar to the other numbers, but it doesn’t stop there, and now many phrases appear at all levels on the dark non-matter.

The door of the storehouse cannot be locked from the inside, be it with a key or without.

The culprit never handed the key to someone else. Nor was it handed to him.

The key couldn't have returned in his pocket simply by throwing it from the window, and the string was not used that way.

The key was already in Genji's pocket before the group entered and discovered his body.

The window was unlocked from the start.

and a countless others appear and disappear. Until finally appears Someone other than the culprit threatened to hurt/kill any family member/servant if he didn't comply.

And just below, This paradox is now fully solved.

Suddenly, the storehouse key appears out of thin air and falls down, lacking its previous glow.
Once down on ground, it disappears in a flurry of golden butterflies.

Last edited at 13/08/18(Sun)15:34:17

"Rest in peace Genji. . . I'm sure you had the best intentions for this family."

I pick up the fire extinguisher and ax on the ground. After talking to myself I shook my head, and walk back into the guesthouse remembering the red 2 on the next door, a formidable number. I approach it cautiously. Instead of touching the handle I touch the frame.

Last edited at 13/08/18(Sun)15:43:58

>>12532
You pick up the fire extinguisher and the axe, who disappear again, but you’re used to that now.
You start to head back towards the guesthouse, but another cracking sound make you look back on the storehouse. Still made of void, all inscription have disappeared but one.
Someone other than the culprit threatened to hurt/kill any family member/servant if he didn’t comply.
It blinks once, a second time and then the latter half of the phrase disappear, leaving only
« Someone other than the culprit » to blink, after 10 seconds it finally disappears altogether.

You shrug it off, and head towards room 1. You put your hand over it, and suddenly your vision blurs until you can’t see anything at all, and you faint.
You come to after an undetermined amount of time, drowsy.
« What is this place ? » You ask yourself. The entire corridor has disappeared. In fact the whole world seems to have disappeared into nothingness, the only thing here are you, an endless black void which seems to span out for miles, and a room in front of you. As you examine the door, you notice it is the same as the one to room 1, except the huge red number 2 has disappeared.
You are sure in fact, that this is the same room, despite the lack of corridor.
For some reason, you feel like you need to enter that room. At all costs.

This room... I can't tell you the countless ways I've thought about this room.

I simply attempt to open the door with the handle as my hands grasp tightly.

>>12534
You put your axe into your left hand to open the door. And... it's locked. What were you expecting exactly ?
Wait... Axe ? You realize you had the axe in your hand the whole time. Your hand... Is it really your hand ? Your whole body... What is happening ? You check your body and see that you now are a shadow, or look like one, most like. Your entire body is as black as the void around you, but you are able to distinguish it thanks to a faint glow emanating from yourself. Your hand look neither male nor female, and as soon as you concentrate on your height, it seems to change. You can't figure out who you are now, but you aren't Camphor anymore.
All you know is, you have an axe in hand, and you really need to get into that room.

I swing the axe in the middle between the door and the frame, aiming towards the lock and the metal thing that keeps the door closed with all my force to break them.

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>>12536
The axe strikes down on the lock, and bounces off it with strength, leaving it unharmed. Words appears.
No part of the room was removed or destroyed.

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I knock politely on the door waiting for someone to respond as I hide a nice present behind my back.

>>12538
You wait, and wait... But no one answers. You're sure that you're in the right though.

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I walk to the opposite side of the room near the windows and knock and shake again as I peer inside.

>>12540
You walk around the room until you reach the windows. Peering through it, you can see Krauss, sitting in his desk, head buried in his hands.
You knock, he stands up, and walks up to the window, he motions to unlock it, then opens it. As soon as it is open, you rush inside, not controlling your body anymore, and severely apply your axe to Krauss’s skull, not letting him utter a single word in the process. Your deed now done, you have control your body once again.
You need to get out. Need to get out. Need to get out.

The windows suddenly close. Next to it, appear the words «The windows were already closed and locked when Natsuhi opened the door. » and «It is impossible to lock the window from the outside. »
On the north wall, appear « Apart from when the door and the windows, there exist no space big enough for anyone to enter in the room. » and « No part of the room was removed or destroyed. »
Finally on the east wall, the phrase appears along the whole of the wall, passing onto the door in the middle. « No living person was inside of the room at the time Natsuhi opened the door. »
Despite all logic, you hear footsteps closing in from the door.

...Need to get out.

I unlock the door and exit before anyone finds me as I run off.

>>12542
You put your hands on the knob, and your hand gets burned once again. «The door was locked with a key. »
Your reach for your pockets and do not find a single key. In panic, you look around the room, and discover a strange glowing object : a replica of a boat ? No... More like the rear end of a boat figure.
You touch it, and it disappears, going into what you're guessing now is some kind of magical inventory. After disappearing, it left behind a ring, what looks like a signet ring. It glows, but not a pale yellow glow like the rest. It glows a bright orange-yellow color, and you feel compelled to wear it.

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I wear the ring. I attempt to search the room for more objects at my disposal.

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>>12544
As you put on the ring, you feel... powerful. The ring is a classic gold signet ring, but it has no mark, nothing graved on it to indicate any family, or name.
Once the ring is put on, the door starts to glow as well. In a movement that isn’t your own, you hold your ring up in front of the door, and suddenly everything becomes blank, and you lose consciousness.
You wake up in the corridor, the one you had previously left. No footsteps to be heard. Looks like you’re safe... You notice the axe has faded back to your magical pocket inventory or whatever, and the gold ring has magically disappeared, the boat modele piece, however, is still there. Also, looking at your hands, you assert that you’re back to the old you again.
The door to room 1 now displays the number 4.

"Well that was an... experience."

I touch the door again, this time a little more force.

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>>12546
Just like before, you feel your hole body thrown flying back, this time you feel it as if you receive a huge kick in the belly. This time, you seem to have flown a whole 15 meters. You could probably break a world record if you tried it again. Or maybe not, more distance would probably send you flying into the other end of the corridor.
On the door, the number 4 grows larger in size. You feel as if there was a number between 2 and 4, but you’re not sure where you got that silly idea.

I stomp my feet toward the kitchen and touch that door.

>>12548
As expected, the number 3 is on the kitchen’s door. It offers no resistance when you turn the knob, you take a step in and... You feel your body falling partly as no ground exists to support the foot you
had set. You quickly take hold of the door and manage to keep your balance and not fall completely into the endless void below you.
Yes, the whole kitchen disappeared and turned into void, somehow. Words appear again on what could be considered the walls of the place.

« The window of the kitchen is too small for someone adult-sized ( Everyone except Maria ) to enter or exit the room.

Eva died from immolation. The fire extinguisher was in plain view for her when she was set on fire.

No trace of fire was found in the room beside Eva. Basically even though half of the kitchen was burnt, it's only concentrated around Eva's corpse.

The fire extinguisher was perfectly reachable.

Eva was never told or instructed anything about the fire extinguisher. »

And finally, « This paradox is now fully solved »
Out of nowhere, a pie falls down onto your head from above, , and a cackle is heard far away. Looks like this wasn’t your lucky room.
As you lick the area around lips in an attempt to wipe yourself, you do not that at least it is delicious. Can’t say much about the delivery though.
You motion to close the door, but before that, the fire extinguisher appears, loses its glow and then disappears the same way as the storehouse key did.

". . .Ok. Well, Eva you dead. Let's see what's behind lucky door number four."

Eating the pieces of the pie off my head, I walk back to room 1 and attempt once again to touch that door knowing it won't trying to kill me.

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>>12550
You head back towards room 1, and as you touch the door, the same thing happens, and you wake up in the similar black, lifeless void as before, the room in front of you.
You feel different now, you look at yourself, and given your height, the way your hands look and your stature, you conclude that you’re a fairly well-built middle-aged man. Looking at your clothes, it’s now obvious, that blue suit... You can only be Rudolf.
Once again, you feel the need to get into that room.

I walk toward the door and open it with the handle, and walk inside.

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>>12552
You turn the knob. Fat chance. It’s locked.

I use my roman numeral key to open the door.

>>12554
You find the key numbered III in your pocket. You insert it into the lock, and it does fit, but you don’t have as much luck while turning it. That won’t work.

I try knocking on the door if someone's still inside. If no one responds, I go around to the windows to see if their unlocked or to knock on them for signs of life

>>12556
The knock receives no response. You walk around to get to the other side and inspect the windows. Clearly, they’re locked. From where you’re standing, it’s obvious no one’s inside the room, so it’s no use knocking on the windows at this point.

I search my pocket for anything else besides my single key. I stand in front of the door and wait for someone/the culprit to open the door for me.

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>>12558
You wait a fair amount of time but no one comes opening the door for you.
In your pockets, you find a ring, the same as before.

I attempt to break the windows. I attempt break the door. I try looking for a key placed elsewhere around in the void near the door. I feel the walls for anything... A change in material maybe.

I finally put on the ring if nothing works.

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>>12560
Your attempt the window remains fruitless, as the words «No windows were broken or removed during the whole game » plaster themselves along the walls and windows.

You find no key among the void. You notice nothing while feeling the walls.

You put on the ring, and the same sensation of strength flows through your body. Your vision fades out.


You came to inside of room 1. You see the door is almost fully closed, and the chain lock is set, through the door, you can observe that the void gave its place back to the corridor. You feel that the ring has now disappeared, too.

Not being the master of your own body, you approach the almost closed door, look through the space left by the chain and you feel a deep pain in your chest.
You look down, and see a knife lodged inside your chest, straight to your heart, on the handle of said knife, lies dark, shapeless fingers relied to a similarly dark and shapeless human figure wearing a raincoat, now bloodied with your own fluid of life.
The pain is unbearable, and you feel blood coiling in your throat, not allowing you to speak. The human shadow releases the knife from his hand, then gives you a good kick on the right shoulder, making your whole body spin 45°, crashing left side down, away from the door, and just beside the nearest bed.
You lose consciousness once again.

You wake up, feeling particularly sick from the experience.
You’re still in room 1, and you can see a body on the ground. Your own, or rather, what used to be your own a second ago. A quick look at your clothes confirms that you are back to normal.

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I pull the knife out of Rudolf's lifeless body, since he's not using it at the moment and put it in my inventory.

I walk to the door while examining the room around me.
I attempt to exit the room through the door

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>>12562
You try to pull the knife out, but unfortunately, no matter how much strength you use, it doesn’t even budge in the slightest. Looks like it’s stuck there via some magic alright.

Apart from the obvious existence of a corpse beside you, there are some other notable things in the room.
First, down on the ground, rather far away from the corpse stands an axe, the same you previously used. Second, on Rudolf’s forehead you can notice the existence of a rather slim slim slash, the form corresponding to the axe. Thinking about it, you can’t actually say whether or not you already had it when you were Rudolf. Anyway, whether you did or not, simply from the size of it, you can positively say that the one who did this clearly had no intention of killing, even harming, unless he really fucked up and just missed to hit properly.
The last thing you notice is another boat part, lying on the top of one of the beds, this time, it looks like it’s the top part.

Looking at Rudolf's head... That's definitely a new clue.... It must be...very important of course!... in some way. Although I'm wondering if this was a wound before or after his death.

I touch part of boat and axe, hoping something will happen. I also try to figure out how far the axe was in comparison to everything. Finally, I exit the room.

>>12564
The boat simply disappears into your inventory as soon as you touch it. The axe though, dissolves into butterflies. Looks like it outlasted its purpose.

Doing some very amateurish and ‘home-made’ measurements, you figure that the axe was at least 3m away from the body, and 5m from the door.

You exit the room, and a tearing sound comes from behind. You see that the door’s number has now vanished. You try to open the door once more, you manage, and see that behind it now lies only void, similarly to the kitchen.

I make my way to the dining room. But first I attempt to open the parlor door if anything remotely of interest is there.

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>>12570
You try to open the door to the parlor without success, it’s locked.
That done, you approach the the door to the dining room. As you gaze upon the number five on the door, you assume this is the final one.
A single touch makes you unconscious again, and you wake up lying on the now-familiar darkness of the void. The dining room is here before you, way larger than room 1 was. You notice without surprise that your body has changed again, as you now wear a rather pompous looking purple dress. Now Natsuhi, you should know what you have to do.

I check my pockets or something for roman numeral I key. If it's not that key, I stop. Examining the door thoroughly, I then insert the key into the key hole all the way completely. I attempt to turn the key both ways.

>>12572
As expected, you find the key you were looking for in your pocket. Not noticing anything special about the door except how handsome the wood looks, you insert the key.
It does fit, but as you it turn both ways, you can clearly see that the door won’t open this way.

I examine that lock as I did the handsome door. Not just a normal examination, I mean I get up in that lock and look what's wrong. I put my eye to look in the key hole, and look in between the door for the lock metal mechanism keeping it closed. After, I check if I'm alone in the void. If anyone's there, I ask for their help.

>>12574
The lock seems normal from what your non-locksmith mine can tell. Nothing seems to be obstructing the wall, and you can faintly see the inside of the room from here. The « lock metal mechanism » seems completely ordinary as well.

You see no one around you, but as you start to open your voice to ask for help, you start saying something without willing it, as if it was someone else saying it with your voice.

« What now... I think this lock is broke »

Just as you say that, you hear heavy footsteps tumbling on the shapeless ground, and the door violently breaks off its hinges as a loud thump resonates.
You can now access the dining room.

After looking around the room, I step in and attempt to pick up the door, checking for it's weight. I look at the door frame at the hinges for residue like glue. I then sigh and look at the body probably in the corner, and then scan the room for items.

>>12576
Trying to further examine the door ends up fruitless, as for some reason, you only see the door as blurred and can’t seem to reach it despite it being not two inches away from you.

Rosa’s corpse sits on one of the chair, as it was described before.
The only item you can see is a letter on the table, just in front of Rosa.

Assuming the key is in her pocket, I check her corpse to grab said item. I look at the blood dripping over, if it's somewhat fresh dripping down or dried on her clothing, pretty much to check if blood is gushing fast out of her neck at this very moment. I go to read the letters on the table.

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>>12578
Despite your will, you begin marching towards the letter, in a way that isn’t yours. You pick up what you had assumed to be a letter, but can now see is an enveloppe.
You open it robotically, and find inside a tiny panel on which is written «THESEUS ». It disappears into your inventory.
Your body continues to move itself and leads you toward the exit of the room. Where you can now see that the corridor as reappeared, and once you’re actually out of the room, your body finally reacts to what you order it. However it is too late, as you see the door to the dining room has already closed, and you guess that only void lies behind now.
Your body has now turned back to normal too.

Now that you have visited all the crime scenes, what are you going to do ?

You can hear some faint noise coming from below your feet.

I check my inventory and examine the «THESEUS » panel. Noticing the sounds below me, I head to the side tables from where I originally came from.