-Mother, why am I not allowed to be with Kanon?!
-Because you are an Ushiromiya and he is a filthy servant!
-But mother......
-I don't want you to ever speak with him again

As Jessica was remembering the words of her mother, she saw a good sight
Battler, Lion, George, Maria, Kanon and Shannon were playing together
They were laughing and smiling so peacefully
-It would be a shame if those day would end soon....

Suddenly Jessica started to feel dizzy, and when she realized she was sitting down in the table with all her cousins, everyone had surprised faces, but contrary to what she believed, the gazes were directed toward Maria, who had a letter on her hands......

The letter was written by the golden witch beatrice, and that letter contained horrible stuff regarding the sucession


Scream and cries filled the room, and Jessica, Lion and their cousins were forced to leave.....

When Jessica was about to leave she heard some creepy laugh....
Jessica disregarded that and closed the mansion doors

The rest of the night she and her cousins were playing card games
The next morning
Jessica awoke at 7:00, a quite late hour to awake for her.
She noticed that all of her cousins and Lion already awoke

She Lion and the rest left the Guest house, and entered the mansion again.and what they saw made them uneasy

Eva,Kumasawa, Genji, Gohda,Nanjo Kanon and Shannon were outside of the lobby trying to open the door

George asked her mother what was going on, and Eva (paranoid as ever)
thought that they were threatening Hideyoshi to convice Eva to stop this fight.

and when they opened the door, they noticed that it smelled like fried eggs.....and what they saw froze their bones

Hideyoshi, Kyrie, Natsuhi, Rosa,Rudolf and Krauss were mutilated and were missing some limbs, the six of them were dead,Nanjo said that it wasn't possible for one of the six to fake its death so
none of the murdered ones is the murderer
the only key to that place is the one that Jessica has
Jessica is the detective, therfore she cannot be the culprit
It is only possible to enter the room without that key
The door was never unlocked.

"Please confirm the locations of the people who were murdered during the night, with the red of course."

Last edited at 13/06/03(Mon)17:50

>>11837
Eva was in the bedroom
Hideyoshi Natsuhi,Rudolf Kyrie Krauss and Rosa were in the lobby
Jessica Lion Ange,Battler, George and Maria were
in the guest house


Kumasawa Gohda Nanjo Genji Shannon and Kanon were in servant rooms of the mansion and Kinzo was in his room in the third floor

"In which room was Jessica in when she heard the creepy laugh? With red please"

>>11842
She was about to leave the mansion in the entrance of the mansion

Good. I propose the following. The culprit was in the room, hiding somewhere, then the culprit murdered everyone and went back to hiding!

>>11846
There was no way the culprit could hid, Only Maria or Ange could hid in the room

Gh.. The culprit could've entered from a window. or.. The culprit killed everyone from outside the room where the murder happened, the culprit could've used a gun or something to kill them.

>>11849
It is impossible to kill someone from outside of the lobby
The Ushiromiyas realized that anyone could sneak in the mansion so they built bullet-proof windows

Last edited at 13/06/03(Mon)22:07

Oi, You didn't counter my first blue truth, Repeat in red "The culprit did not enter the lobby from outside using a window."

Last edited at 13/06/04(Tue)00:26

hi

>>11852

"The culprit did not enter the lobby from outside using a window."

>>11853
HI~

Argh, Ok how about this. One of people in the lobby had another personality that took control of their body to kill everyone. or There was a trap somewhere in the lobby that activated and killed everyone or It was all an accident, therefore everyone died accidently somehow.

>>11855
dont tell me you believe that?
didn't I told you? there are no alternate personalities in this gameboard there are no mechanical traps in this murder

First of all confirm me ALL the deaths with the red, I don't trust Nanjo since he might be an accomplice. Second. The adults might've eaten, or drinked something with some kind of poison which caused them to die when time passed. also please confirm that there is only one lobby and that the lobby you are referring to that didn't open is the room where the adults got murdered in. If possible also tell me where exactly the adults were murdered.

Also, please repeat this with red "An accident did not occur.". I'm reffering to my previous theory that everything was an accident.

Last edited at 13/06/04(Tue)10:07

>>11857
Kinzo is alive
Krauss is dead
Eva is alive
Rudolf is dead
Rosa is dead
Hideyoshi is dead
Natsuhi is dead
Kyrie is dead
George is alive
Battler is alive
Jessica is alive
Maria is alive
Lion is alive
Ange is alive
Kanon is alive
Shannon is alive
Genji is alive
Gohda is alive
Nanjo is alive
Kumasawa is alive



It was a murder there was no way an accident could have happened
also it was impossible for them to eat or drink something weird, since everyone would be dead by now

The culprit might've entered the lobby through a hole from outside, or from another room/door. and from what I said previously, I'm expecting an answer for these two: please confirm that there is only one lobby and that the lobby you are referring to that didn't open is the room where the adults got murdered in. If possible also tell me where exactly the adults were murdered.

Last edited at 13/06/04(Tue)10:30

>>11857
Knox forbids secret passages and there is no way there could be a hole

there is only one lobby and that the lobby I am referring to that didn't open is the room where the adults got murdered in.
and I refuse to answer last one, its pointless


Last edited at 13/06/04(Tue)10:41

Repeat with the red. "The only way to enter the lobby is through that door."

>>11861
The only way to enter the lobby is through that door.

And finally, repeat with the red. "The only way to get OUT of the lobby is using the door."

>>11863
the only way to get OUT of the lobby is using the door.

During the part where Maria readed the letter out loud it was said that Jessica was dizzy, so if I'm right what she saw there while she was dizzy wasn't reliable. (Just like in EP2 when Battler was drunk and saw Beatrice) so that whole part never happened and the adults were already dead if that's not true then I propose that you've made a logic error, You've said the door was never unlocked, yet at the start everyone was possibly in the dining room sitting on the table and THEN the adults moved to the lobby and the only way to get in would be to UNLOCK the door.

>>11865

Jessica point of view is reliable and everything happened

There is no logic error think about it~
if you manage to solve this, the first twilight is yours.

The corpses in the lobby weren't the real ones! and... The actual corpses are hidden somewhere else.

>>11867
The corpses that are on the lobby belong to Hideyoshi Ushiromiya, Kyrie Ushiromiya, Krauss Ushiromiya, Natsuhi Ushiromiya, Rosa Ushiromiya and Rudolf Ushiromiya

Repeat in red "The only people who entered the lobby were Hideyoshi, Kyrie, Natsuhi, Rosa,Rudolf and Krauss." and tell me when was the last time that the lobby door opened and by who if possible.

>>11869
I refuse, it would be pointless If I gave you advantag

So more people could've entered the lobby The culprit somehow had the key, just before the adults entered the lobby the culprit killed them, threw their corpses in the lobby and then locked the door for the rest of the night. and Since you didn't say when was the last time the door opened and by who I can say that the culprit went in the lobby, waited for the adults and killed them then walked out of the lobby, locked the door and left. . Basically I can make thousands of theories to use against you like that until you stop me with the red.

Last edited at 13/06/05(Wed)00:09

>>11872
The culprit didn't need the key

Repeat in red "The culprit went in the lobby to murder the victims." also tell me the cause of death of each of the murdered people.

Last edited at 13/06/06(Thu)15:29

"The culprit went in the lobby to murder the victims.They were killed due to the bleeding and its missing limbs"

Repeat in red "The culprit went in the lobby THROUGH the door."

Last edited at 13/06/06(Thu)15:35

>>11886
"Well what its certain is that the culprit entered the room so technically he went THROUGH the door."

Last edited at 13/06/06(Thu)15:45

I demand you to repeat it in red, if it's not in red then it's not the truth. There could've been another way to enter the lobby, the culprit used it to his advantage and killed his victims then went out of the lobby. Also repeat in red "The culprit didn't stay in the lobby after murdering his victims."

the only way to enter to the lobby is through the only door that is available

The culprit didn't stay in the lobby after murdering his victims

Repeat in red "The door was locked from the moment that Battler's, George's and Maria's families arrived to Rokkenjima until the morning where everyone opened the door".

Also answer this: When exactly did Jessica hear the creepy laugh, before or after the murders?

Ah and before I forget Repeat in red "The culprit and the accomplice did not use the key to enter the lobby"

>>11890
I refuse to answer the first one

Before the murders Jessica heard that laugh

The culprit and the accomplice did not use the key to enter the lobby"

Did Jessica ever open the door?

>>11897

Not at all

Specify the time that door stayed locked, it's impossible for the door to have been locked for this entire time, or else it'll be a logic error for you.

>>11936
Since the start until Eva the servants and the cousins the door was locked.

Okay. They might have died before the start, which means that they were dead in the first place, locked in the lobby the entire day until the morning when everyone woke up and opened the door.

Also, repeat in red "It's impossible to unscew the door hinges"

Last edited at 13/06/09(Sun)14:08